Can anyone advise me of a good Tool to remove a MAGNA oil filter Rather than hammering a screwdriver into it to turn it off ? the dam thing is just to small for most tools and there is a lack of space around it as most of you probaly already know.
Does Mitsu sell something designed for it?
Any Ideas ?

go to supercheap auto and grab yourself an oil filter removal tool - like $10.

Then when you go to put your new one on just do it up by hand. Its not going anywhere. Make it easier on yourself when you gotta take it off.

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there is a few different ones avalible. i got 2 personally, one that looks like a claw with little ridges on the inside and the other wraps around and u screw it tight

Screwdriver works best for me :).

Get a belt (as in the thing that holds your strides up, not the thing that drives your alternator and power steering pump) and thread the tail through the buckle in the usual way. Wrap this around the filter and push a screwdriver through the buckle. Use the screwdriver to lever the filter off. A bit of common sense will tell how to put the belt and screwdriver to obtain maximum leverage.

Use a belt that you won't want to wear again as the oil might just pour over it.

The only tool that works good on the Magnas are the claw type filter removers. You'll need a 3/8 ratchet aswell to use it.

Or you can use a big set of multigrips.

It cant be that tight Dennis.. Just put some Muscle into it you big girl..:P

There is plenty of room to get a good grip on it if not whats wrong with the old screw driver method..??

If that fails yeah there claws that go on the end and attach to the rachet are good..:)

i bought a oil filter removal tool, and theres not enough room to use it.

So i now if its on too tight i just use a screw driver and a hammer.

Or you could just not do it tight in the first place.

What are you guys talking about? The oil filter is easy to remove. It should not be anywhere near that tight that you need a tool/screw driver/belt to take it off.

I've changed it 3 times now, and its so damn easy...

The BEST tool you can buy for V6's oil filter is the end-cap type.
Big cap that fits over the filter's end, has a hex nut or square drive on the other end.
But you need to buy 1 for every different size of filter you do.

2nd best is a belt wrench, that's what I use.
Rubber belt with a plastic handle, buy it from Bunnings for like $10.
There's enough room to swing it around and it don't dent the can.

The BEST tool you can buy for V6's oil filter is the end-cap type.
Big cap that fits over the filter's end, has a hex nut or square drive on the other end.
But you need to buy 1 for every different size of filter you do.


Where would you buy one?

SuperCheap have an adjustable one but it doesn't go down small enough for a Ryco Z456.

Yeah I found supercheap dont have the small ones, I just bought a big one and put my screw-driver handle against the filter to take up the slack in the filter remover. I have since bought a small one from repco.

Yeah I found supercheap dont have the small ones, I just bought a big one and put my screw-driver handle against the filter to take up the slack in the filter remover. I have since bought a small one from repco.
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Yeah man is not small enough for the Z411 oil filter either. There is more than enough space is just the removal tool is not small enough for most out there. there are some screw down ones but I find that retarded and just slowing the process. If you can get a good adjustable claw ones would be excellent.

there are 2 good options.
1. the filter removers that have what looks like a 2" socket extension on it with a belt that comes off the side. you wrap this around the filter (similar to the belt idea) and tighten it up and twist it off.

2. to go to coles or woolies and get 1 of those bits of rubber squares for taking off jar lids. put that over the top of the filter and go for gold. they stop your hand slipping and work well.

if that doesn't work, then use the hammer and screwdriver.

Get this from Super Cheap, I was a bit reluctant to get it but is only 5.99
You can adjust to the smallest filters and go larger if needed to with a very good grip.
A lot of other oil filter removal tools are just set at 70mm or higher which is not recommended.

Hope this helps.

http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oilfilterremoveriw4.jpg

Get this from Super Cheap, I was a bit reluctant to get it but is only 5.99
You can adjust to the smallest filters and go larger if needed to with a very good grip.
A lot of other oil filter removal tools are just set at 70mm or higher which is not recommended.

Hope this helps.

http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oilfilterremoveriw4.jpg

Thats what I use, it's bit fiddly, as you always have to readjust it due tot he limited space around the filter, but it works every time.

Thats what I use, it's bit fiddly, as you always have to readjust it due tot he limited space around the filter, but it works every time.

The screwing part was what put me off, but find it not really a big difficult process, which is good. For a cheap and good one, I take this.

I will NEVER use a hammer and screw driver as you may slip and hit something, e.g your oil sump and then a bigger problem.

I will NEVER use a hammer and screw driver as you may slip and hit something, e.g your oil sump and then a bigger problem.

I'd be more worried about damaging the thread where the filter screws in.

Hammer and screwdriver is a last resort, if the filter tool isn't gripping etc.

You would have to be a muppet to damage something else while doing it.

I have a pair of 15 inch multigrips, gets most filters off, and retracts brake pistons with ease!

I just used a $5 compressing ring style from Supercheap on my 94 Verada and had no problems getting it off (or the filter for that matter :badgrin:!)

Supercheap is undoubtably the best value - Huge range and better pricing... Repco next door only had 1 type available and it was $15! There was no obvious difference between the two.

BARGAIN

Cool guys thanks for sum ideas and info, Jase let me know when ur ready to arm wrestle the "big girl":bowrofl:

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Yeah man is not small enough for the Z411 oil filter either. There is more than enough space is just the removal tool is not small enough for most out there. there are some screw down ones but I find that retarded and just slowing the process. If you can get a good adjustable claw ones would be excellent.

hmm i had the Z411 oil filter on my car but when i looked at the parts book at Kmart, they recommend the Z456 of which they are bother similar in side and everything and they both FIT the car. I did an oil change today as well as removed the oil filter without any tools, its on on pretty tight but without an oily hand and a good grip, i got the filter off without any tools, my gf's dad lent me the belt type removal tool and that was too big for the filter. so just try using ur hands before u spend money on tools, you'd be surprise how easily it come off..

Screwdriver gets my vote every time too. It might be a touch messy at times, but it always fits and it is guaranteed to get the job done - and you can ask for more than that, can you? Plus, it saves you buying a second tool (filter remover) to do the job that an existing tool (the screwdriver) can do just as well.

Get this from Super Cheap, I was a bit reluctant to get it but is only 5.99
You can adjust to the smallest filters and go larger if needed to with a very good grip.
A lot of other oil filter removal tools are just set at 70mm or higher which is not recommended.

Hope this helps.

http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oilfilterremoveriw4.jpg

Thats the one I've used also. I found I had to position the metal strap around the very bottom of the filter (where it has the ridged section) to get maximum grip on it, and put a rag over the nut at the end to allow me to get enough grip to hand tighten it enough to work.

If you need to "reposition" it more than twice to get the filter loose enough to do the rest by hand - then the filter was put on waaaaay to tight in the first place. You should only ever need a filter removal tool to "break the seal". As others have said - they only need to be done up hand tight.

i dont quite understand why everybody needs tools to get their oil filter off :confused: its not that hard, you use a grippy thing if its slippery but why would it be done up that tight in the first place? Do it up hand tight and it wont go anywhere...no need for it to be any tighter than that.

imo..

the best one to use is a 2 jaw clamp type, repco sell them, about 25 bux

turn it clock wise makes the jaws open
turn it anticlockwise the jaws clamp the oilfilter the harder you try to turn it the more it clamps

its a multi fit tool works on most filters and all u need is a 3/8 extention and 3/8 ratchet

My method? Well, if you have a really tight filter, or it's a car you've just bought and some ham-fisted git has murdered the filter on, then use the screwdriver technique. When you refit a new one, remember to lubricate the oil filter sealing ring with a small amount of clean oil - just dip you finger in some oil, and put a slight smear of it round the sealing ring. Then, fill the new filter (slowly) with oil - it takes a while for the oil to disperse into the filter, so do it bit by bit until it's reasonably full - you don't have to brim it right to the top, or you'll just end up spilling oil everywhere while you try and line it up with the thread on the oil filter pick-up pipe.

Now, do the new filter up hand tight - every filter has a new sealing ring, so you don't have to wring it's neck. Just nip it up til it's tight, but you're not straining too hard.

When you next come to change it, give it a clean with a rag and some detergent if it's oily, then it should come un-done easy. Use a rag, or some gardening gloves if you're still having trouble getting a grip on it. I find laying on my back under the car, using a two handed grip works every time.

Hope this helps.

Other tips? I bought a two litre plastic cooking measuring jug to fill the car up with oil. My
V6 takes 4.3 Litres including filter. Just top up the new filter, then add 4 Litres of oil to the engine - easy.

New oil can be messy to try and add to the engine - easy to spill it over the rocker cover, and down the side of the cylinder head. I got an empy plastic coke bottle and cut off the bottom with a knife at a slight angle. The neck of the bottle has a slight ridge just below where the cap screws on - this seems to hook onto the inside of the oil filler opening nicely, and the bottle will lay on its side at an angle, and you can just pour the oil straight into it. Screw the cap back on the coke bottle when you've finished, and store it somewhere upside down, til the next use. Makes things a lot easier/cleaner.

the best one to use is a 2 jaw clamp type, repco sell them, about 25 bux

turn it clock wise makes the jaws open
turn it anticlockwise the jaws clamp the oilfilter the harder you try to turn it the more it clamps

its a multi fit tool works on most filters and all u need is a 3/8 extention and 3/8 ratchet


99.99% mechanics agree with you there! The tool is made by ABW, and is cheap, and in my opinion, is the best tool for oil filter removal.
They come in 2 sizes, the smaller tool for the Z386's etc, and the larger tool for the Z9's and so on... I've had mine for 15 years, removed thousands of filters, and no problems!

Click below to see the pic

http://www.collinsid.com.au/Tools%2B-%2BHand/Wrenches/Oil%2BFilter%2BWrenches/ABW-70831/Oil%2BFilter%2BWrench-%2BSteel%2BJaws.phtml