has anyone fitted the Xenon type lamps to the paras in the 3rd gens. ???

I've heard Xenons generate so much heat, our plastic paras would melt.

Anyone done it?

Xenon HID (high intensity discharge) kits cost a fortune. They actually generate about 3 times less heat and less power used too. If you dont have $2k for HID, just step into supercheap, grab some HIL (luminous) bulbs. These still give of a relative white/blue light and if the Xenon filled ones, the gas is still lit up. They still use a halogen fillament unlike the HID which arcs electricity though

look at the lighting sticky, there lots of info in there.
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23184

"Xenon type" implies the halogen globes that are coated blue, and have high wattage, to replicate HID lights. They are usually cheap and nasty and are pretty much worthless apart from looking cool. The other option is HID retrofits which replaces the standard halogen globe with a HID capsule and ballast assembly. A couple of problems with this is the reflector design, US DOT standard, is substandard with halogen which is pretty much useless when used with a HID capsule. Another issue is space as the capsule is approx twice the length of the H7 globe, and we all know how much space there is there. But the big issue is legality. All the information I have seen points to retrofits, and most if not all HID look halogens, being illegal. I think Heath Young was doing a proper HID conversion useing BMW reflectors, I also have the part numbers for most of the bits that you need to do it the conversion from Hella, the problem being cost and supply.

I run Phillips Vision plus in my wagon.

But all new cars are coming with stock HID kits. Just get HIL Xenon filled halogen bulbs($20ish), way cheaper, try to get same wattage. Don't get the blue coated ones. They are tools, Xenon filled HIL or go buy a new accord euro

heathyoung is the man with the knowledge when it comes to all of this stuff!

He was doin some crazy stuff.. I think he gave up after a while coz it cost too much.. or not.. Don't quote me.. not too sure.. Althought it was definitely a costly setup!

SuFz :rant:

Just get Philips Chrysal Vision bulbs...

Megatron fitted aftermarket HID kit, and its too bright.. lol

i paid $450.00 includ. installation on my KJ verada H7 6000K Korean made HID kit abt 12 months ago. Works very well with no problem mentioned in the Headlights FAQ so far. MY06/07 Forester XT uses Halogen style HID too.

has anyone fitted the Xenon type lamps to the paras in the 3rd gens. ???

I've heard Xenons generate so much heat, our plastic paras would melt.

Anyone done it?

the ones with the heat probloms are not true xenon HIDs........those cheaper one like the philips(not really that cheap) are the ones that produce heat.......

I'm using HID 8000K bulbs with ballest(kit) and have no problems there....:D

Easy to fit... dun waste money and pay the auto shops to do it...most will qoute 100+ just to INSTALL it....bloody nobs....

Xenon HID (high intensity discharge) kits cost a fortune. They actually generate about 3 times less heat and less power used too. If you dont have $2k for HID


Carmate in Syd do the kits for about $400 from memory.. will be cheap ****.. i seen on a merc 4wd.. wasnt impressed..

parras suck... i put in the crappy $80 globes, now im eating carrots to see at night!! vision has improved a bit since i put on factory fog lights with 100w globes.... next mod *night vision goggles:bowrofl:

parras suck... i put in the crappy $80 globes, now im eating carrots to see at night!! vision has improved a bit since i put on factory fog lights with 100w globes.... next mod *night vision goggles:bowrofl:
Wanna swap your parra's with my standard headlights? ;) hahaha

i paid $450.00 includ. installation on my KJ verada H7 6000K Korean made HID kit abt 12 months ago. Works very well with no problem mentioned in the Headlights FAQ so far. MY06/07 Forester XT uses Halogen style HID too.

FFS Halogen style meaning NOT HID more like HIL or something? Halogen means with a burning filament and wire no? So HID.. being DISCHARGING electricity through an arc aint HID.

FFS Halogen style meaning NOT HID more like HIL or something? Halogen means with a burning filament and wire no? So HID.. being DISCHARGING electricity through an arc aint HID.

I should say it's HID instead of halogen bulbs.. my bad

it's not one of those El cheapo blue bulbs from supercheap or Kmart (HIL - u refers to). Those are crap. Stop wasting money on those bulbs (no matter if it's $100.00 Philips or $150.00 PIAA from Japan)

It is HID kit which comes with ballasts and other wiring looms. Its the same compared to the one that used by Lexus GS300 (early model) and current Subaru Forester XT.

The results from fitting a h7 HID kit to standard parabolics are seriously a WOFTAM. (Waste Of Fcking Time And Money).

Been there done that - the reflectors are a very poor design, made for DOT (ie. US) countries rather than ECE (ie. the rest of the world). The only way you can get those parabolics to work well is to replace the reflectors. Even the highbeams suck.

I am working on another set of parabolic one-pieces that will be something special... They are using BMW e46 single xenon projectors for the lowbeams, and Hella FF75 driving lights (they are a high output, free form H7 oval driving light) with some serious light output - vision to 400m down the road! :D.

That said - a halfway decent H4 setup (ie. casper sheilds, Philips D2S and ballast) works reasonably well in the Executive - I am using these at the moment while I finish my uber headlamps.

I also have some uber, uber headlamps planned as well, but the parts sourcing is being a pain - the entire lamp unit out of a 5 series beemer (Bixenon projector - yep xenon lows and highs, as well as the high output h7 higbeam reflector) mounted in a Hella case (executive headlamp) with the clear glass Stanley lens. (parabolic lamp). I have 1/2 of the parts (one side only. :rant:

Cheers
Heath Young

Well everyone has a right to their own opinion and I think at the end of the day it all comes down to your wallet and your time. To me $450.00 and 15mins (drop off and pickup time) is money well spent for HID kit. i dont really care abt what ppl say abt ADR approval or other crap.

i dont think it's cost and time effective for me to get a bimmer type projector head lamp, sourcing parts or spend time on modification, wiring etc.

To me, that's waste of my money and most importantly my time~

no offense intended to other members here but that's my opinion.

just a quick question Heath, since you will have high wattage llights or watever how will the plastic face on the one piece parras go? coz the light will produce a fair bit of heat which might result in the plastic face turning yellow.

thats wat i just wanted to know bout

Sorry, 'twas a bit of a rant. I don't like the h7 hid kits in the parabolics because all it achieves is making a poor pattern brighter. Each to their own...

Ashneel - the headlamps I am fitting are designed for use with polycarbonate lenses - no higher than normal wattage bulbs etc. The H7 in the highbeam is 55W, and the Lowbeam is 35W.

Cheers
Heath Young

Well everyone has a right to their own opinion and I think at the end of the day it all comes down to your wallet and your time. To me $450.00 and 15mins (drop off and pickup time) is money well spent for HID kit. i dont really care abt what ppl say abt ADR approval or other crap.

i dont think it's cost and time effective for me to get a bimmer type projector head lamp, sourcing parts or spend time on modification, wiring etc.

To me, that's waste of my money and most importantly my time~

no offense intended to other members here but that's my opinion.

That's your opinon and you're entitled to it. BUT, legality is a real issue as if you have illegal lights, you WILL be ordered to remove them. And if you are involved in a crash and it is found your lights are illegal then you SOL.

This is what you need to do it properly. No prices or idea on availablity.
90mm light unit:
Bixenon projector-1LL 008 934-011.
Halogen FF reflector High beam, parker light-1KO 008 191-001.
As above with no position light for Verada-1KO 008 191-011.
Head light wash system:
Telescopic for Magna-8WT 008 549-101.
Fixed for Verada-8WS 008 549-001.
Headlight levelling:
Ultrasonic-8XX 008 614-011.

All the above are Hella part numbers and are ECE approved.

Yep - and you so don't want to know those prices either :(

For those who are curious about the price, a turbo conversion is about the same price!