got a magna that needs to be sanded back and cut and polished.

don't have many concerns about the cutting and polishing part but i need recomendations of what tools and and methods i need to sand it back.

i have plenty of volunteers to help who are handy with their hands but i am looking for feedback on other methods that other car owners have on this small mission.
the major factor of the process is that the car suffers from major "orange peel" is there a simple way to combat this or is it solid and patient sanding that will be best.

not really many options open had quotes from profesionals and the lowest i can get is about $750 coz the "peel" is so bad.

any hints and/or tips would be grateful.

Use 1500-2000 grit sandpaper.....then use a heavy and light cutting compund, start with the light one and if that doesnt get rid of the scratches then use the heavier stuff.
PM JELLMAG about this he has done this to his car and knows what hes talking about

got a magna that needs to be sanded back and cut and polished.

don't have many concerns about the cutting and polishing part but i need recomendations of what tools and and methods i need to sand it back.

i have plenty of volunteers to help who are handy with their hands but i am looking for feedback on other methods that other car owners have on this small mission.
the major factor of the process is that the car suffers from major "orange peel" is there a simple way to combat this or is it solid and patient sanding that will be best.

not really many options open had quotes from profesionals and the lowest i can get is about $750 coz the "peel" is so bad.

any hints and/or tips would be grateful.
Dude if it's original paint you don't need to wet rub it with sand paper
post pic's and a close up of the paint so we can see what advice to give you
my car had been previously resprayed before i had it
being a spaypainter before i knew what i was doing
if you don't know what you are doing you can seriously *** your paint

the only way to get rid of orange peel is to sand. Use 2000 grit wet and dry
buff with co**** compound first then use the fine. But you can buy Farecla G3
and just buff once. If the paint is acrylic use a lambswool pad, if 2 pac use a
sponge pad. Any more questions just ask.

Regards,
Lloyd

co**** compound first then use the fine. But you can buy Farecla G3


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You're in for a rude awakening if you're going to sand the entire car by hand. It's going to take a ridiculous amount of time and labour and the risk of fuscking your paint is high. A machine would take time but the risk is even higher if you've never done it before.
Maybe just go over it with a levelling compound a couple of times and live with it. Farecla can be a biatch to work with as well. There's no easy way to get rid of orange peel unless you get someone else to do it.

thanks for all your helpful comments.

My general move now is a lot of elbow grease and hard work.
The paint isn't factory it has had a couple of other paint jobs.

I really hate to say it but the car is an :rant:Ex-Taxi:rant:

First it was factory White, taxi mob got their grubby paws on it sprayed it Acrylic yellow then the car must have been sold off and some smart person decided to spray it in a yellow Enamel (lots of fun sanding there) i got hold of it, damn near had to sand back to bare metal all over and then i had it sprayed black.

I have a lot of time to do it because i want to do it right and not have to go over it again.

As the paint is Acrylic i have heard a foam buff pad is perfect for the cutting and polishing part - or have i been incorrectly informed?

Cheers all i better grab my bucket with water, my rubber sanding block and some 2000 grit and get to work.

Thanks all and by all means if you have any other input that may help would be great.

lambswool buff pad would give you a better finish with acrylic
just dont heat the panel up to much and careful of the edges

As the paint is Acrylic i have heard a foam buff pad is perfect for the cutting and polishing part - or have i been incorrectly informed?


i have used lamb's wool and foam pad's
foam is the preffered choice

Ok first you will need some supplies with these being: Sandpaper in grades of 800, 1200, 1500, 2000 all wet and dry, some dish washing liquid, meguiars paint cleaner, buff, foam or woolen buffing pad and a soft rubber sanding block (made by 3M available at most paint shops)

Ok get some warm water in a bucket and put some dish washing liquid in it. Get a sheet of 800 and trim it to size to fit around the sanding pad and put this and the trimmed sand paper into the warm water to soften the paper. Wrap the paper around the block and start sanding in a light 45 degree angle across the panel. Once you feel you have done enough go back the other way on a 45 degree angle to cancel out the scratches. The aim here is to get the paint as flat as possible for polishing. This is evident when you rinse it with the hose and dry it off. If done correctly the panel will look flat and the paint will be dull with no "orange peel" and will look like you have taken the gloss off the paint. Depending how far you go with this grade paper will depend on the amount of clear that is on the panels.
Not all the peel must be taken out with 800 as there are still 3 other grades of paper to go. Repeat the above steps with the appropriate grades of paper. By the time you get to 1500 it should be fairly flat and dull at this time as you are now just evening it out and getting rid of the scratches. Once you feel happy that it is flat and all the peel is gone its now time to start buffing. (eye protection and old clothes should be worn)
Get some paint cleaner and smear it over the panel with a soft rag. Put your buffing attachment into your buff and turn it on to low speed and start it off the panel. Working with firm even pressure work your way across the panel slowly and evenly. Not too slow as it will pump heat into the panel possibly warping it. Also dont concentrate in the one area but don’t go willy nilly a neat pattern is the key here. I just buff until the paint cleaner disappears and is left with a killer shine.
If using a woolen pad you may need to clean it. To do this get a long clean screw drive and with the buff running turn it upside down and put the screw drive on the pad and it will flick all the crap out leaving it nice and clean. Be careful on edges when buffing as buff burn can occur. Keep the buff flat to prevent working divots into the paint. Once done with the buff i usually give it a good going over by hand to get rid of any buff marks and make sure its nice.
If your scared of the edges put a 1/8th strip of tape on them and come back to them later by hand with some meguirs fine cut swirl remover before you go over thole panel with paint cleaner by hand.
Most of all keep it fun and take your time and you should end up with a panel that looks like to pros have done but you can take all the credit.

okiedokie,im apainter by trade so heres what you do...

1500-2000grit paper

FOAM pad, not lambswool, lambswool was designed for 2k applications and B/C (basecoat/clearcoat) applications.

unless you are really skilled with a variable speed buff then stick with foam pad.

get a block, a hard one, water and a chamios.

block out the orange peel and imperfections with 1500-2000 depending on the defect in the paint.

start with a mild compound like PPG systems1, and if that doesnt get the scratches out then go to the farecla G3, G3 is very course for acrylic and can destroy the paint, use lots of water with the compound and keep a low speed on the buff and work your way up in speed. finish with systems 1 or similar and then final rub with a good quality wax or fine compound.

if you are in sydney or newcastle or the central coast i can give you a hand...

remember to burnish the paint by buffing all the compound off the surface at low speed, this will ensure low scratching and high shine....


if u neeed anymore info or need to get yourhands on compound or a buff just pm me.

sheriff

yo sherriff have you ever used Dulux Rapide????
that was the last paint that i sprayed
just wanted to know about the Cobra range