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Bigmac123_99
09-08-2006, 09:16 PM
Hy guys, havnt been on in a while so it is good seeing all the new ppl around.
just wondering for all ths ppl that have actually put a turbo in, what price would i be looking at to put a single turbo in my TE 3l. AND THEN WAS IT WORTH THE MONEY, or were you expecting more gains. thanks for the info guys.
tank

liberate
09-08-2006, 09:25 PM
im interested in hearing this aswell.

Twunka
09-08-2006, 09:32 PM
it depends on if u use completely brand new parts or used parts, at home i got sitting a twin turbo kit of a 300zx and am making custom pipe work myself so all up so far its costed me $220 + about $80 for the pipe work and silicone and clamps n everything

liberate
09-08-2006, 09:38 PM
so your turbo kit just came from a wreckers or something?

Twunka
09-08-2006, 09:53 PM
the turbo's were off my mates 300zx when he upgraded his turbo's (granted they arn't anywhere near the lvl of black beards) but i'm working on making up an affordable turbo kit for the 6g7* SOHC's out there that wont cost $around the 6k+ mark and still run around 7-15 psi

Bigmac123_99
09-08-2006, 10:05 PM
yeah, i am looking at poutting one in but not sure as to the gains so curious as to speeking to someone that has done it.

TheDifference
09-08-2006, 10:48 PM
im thinking you could probly put one together using very low boost (therefore eliminating the need for a piggyback ecu) and using second hand parts etc...... for about 3k

Black Beard
10-08-2006, 04:22 AM
yeah, i am looking at poutting one in but not sure as to the gains so curious as to speeking to someone that has done it.

It's boost, of course there will be gains. The more boost the more gains. The more boost - the more expensive the setup will be (if you intend for it to be reliable).

You're talking specifically about a single turbo, and your car is a V6 - the only people I know on these forums who would be able to give you any advise based on experience are Boosted Booya, and Wooduck (who appears to have gone underground).

It also depends entirely on whether or not you intend to do any of the work yourself. Many people seem to think that they can build their own turbo install using "2nd hand turbos and a mates workshop" for a fraction of the price you would pay for a professional install, but to the best of my knowledge, no-one has yet built a turbo V6 magna on a budget of less than $7000.

Twunka
10-08-2006, 06:38 AM
its not a mates workshop its mine lol, and if i can turbo my mrs charade for cheap as *** then i can turbo my magna for possably cheap lol

Black Beard
10-08-2006, 06:44 AM
its not a mates workshop its mine lol, and if i can turbo my mrs charade for cheap as *** then i can turbo my magna for possably cheap lol

Yeah, I wasn't referring to you with the "mates workshop" comment :bowrofl: . Correct me if I'm wrong - wasn't there a factory turbo charade at one stage??

Twunka
10-08-2006, 06:45 AM
yes there was

will3690
10-08-2006, 06:46 AM
Can someone provide a complete list of parts and gismo's needed to turbo a 3L,3.5L magna with a step by step instruction on how its done? What stays, whats goes? I am interested in Turbo without spending the thousands of dollars. I would attempt to do it myself and go second hand ****.

ScottoMcgotto
10-08-2006, 06:49 AM
Hey twunka, if you wan't a 3l te to practice on before you do it to your own just let us know... :bowrofl:

Matty_J
10-08-2006, 07:59 AM
Can someone provide a complete list of parts and gismo's needed to turbo a 3L,3.5L magna with a step by step instruction on how its done? What stays, whats goes? I am interested in Turbo without spending the thousands of dollars. I would attempt to do it myself and go second hand ****.


For a V6 mate you need extra parts as the engine is a lot bigger than a 4cyl, chk out BB's thread twin turbs install,

but the main things you will need are of course your turbo or twin whichever, intercooler + piping, Aftermarket ECU , custom downpipes, turbo manifold, larger fuel injectors & fuel pumps, BOV, boost gauge, fuel pressure Reg, maybe even a brake upgrade of some kind as you will need more stopping power,sports or turbo made exhaust system if you do not have one, but turbo setups can lead to a lot of $$$$$ make sure you have the money if you are going down this path, regardless it will cost at least 2g's and thats a good price lol

..GONE..
10-08-2006, 11:53 AM
You can get away with running a Greddy eManage - ~$1500 Installed & Tuned
Cooler - Shouldnt set you back too much.. You can pick up Hybrid 600 x 300s for $150 - $200

Piping - $$$$$ (They'll be custom)

Manifolds - $$$$$ (As Above)

Injectors - You may be able to last on yours.. If you intend on running low boost all the time.. I always thought the Magna injectors were quite capable.. But don't quote me..

Oil Lines/Fittings - All braided lines and fittings..

Turbo(s) - Set ya back a pretty penny if you're gonna buy yourself a new GT28R or if you're going single and wanna show off.. GT35/40R or HKS T-04Z or something crazy..

I've missed a **** load.. but still.. It's not as basic as getting a manifold and strapping it on.. There's alotta lil things here and there that you gotta do!

Do your research.. You don't jump into a pool until you know how deep it is...

Having said all that.. If someone has a 1st Gen that they dont care about in QLD.. I know someone who'll strap on a turbo for like $700.. LOL! You bring the Turbo and $700 and he'll chuck it on! Yes, It is a dodgy set up! It won't be anything crazy! But still.. The car is on its last legs anyway.. But enough of dodgy set ups!

SuFz :rant:

Black Beard
10-08-2006, 02:32 PM
The single biggest expenses in my installation have been (in this order):

* Turbos (brand new GT28R's)
* Intake and Intercooler piping (custom Stainless Steel piping and PWR Silcon hoses in a variety of sizes)
* Turbo Manifolds / Dump Pipe (RPW kit)
* Labour
* Oil and Water lines to the Turbos (teflon braided lines and speedflow fittings)

So you can see there are big savings to be had by sourcing 2nd hand turbos, and if you're handy with a welder, but lets be realistic here....... if you want to turbo your car, but don't even know what parts are involved, and don't want to spend more than (lets pull a number out of the air) $5000, then you really need to take a few steps back and look at the big picture eg: what sort of power you hope to achieve, what are you going to drive around in while your magna is off the road, will you want a setup thats capable of reliably producing significant power (400+ HP) after a rebuild, what sort of driving do you intend to do etc etc etc.

PUFF_DOGG
16-08-2006, 02:58 AM
what power from what setup are you pulling black beard?

Disciple
16-08-2006, 05:31 AM
what power from what setup are you pulling black beard?
Have you had your head in the sand?

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37918

200KW ATW Twin Turbo.

khorne
16-08-2006, 09:10 AM
ive been looking into and collecting parts for a single turbo install, if anybody needs info on how to buy the new ZOOM mag in the back it tells you a lot of little things to be aware of, if your going turbo it'll be a good guide.

Black Beard
16-08-2006, 09:17 AM
Have you had your head in the sand?

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37918

200KW ATW Twin Turbo.

*ahem*...... almost 200kW at the wheels.

Disciple
16-08-2006, 10:01 AM
*ahem*...... almost 200kW at the wheels.
It'll be over 200 once you get a 3" exhaust and turbo timer. So for now we'll meet half way. :P

choonga
16-08-2006, 11:21 AM
It'll be over 200 once you get a 3" exhaust and turbo timer. So for now we'll meet half way. :P

lol.. THE TURBO TIMER WILL GIVE YOU AN EXTRA 50HP!:bowrofl: :nuts:

Disciple
16-08-2006, 11:26 AM
lol.. THE TURBO TIMER WILL GIVE YOU AN EXTRA 50HP!:bowrofl: :nuts:
lol I'd expect the 3" exhaust to give at least 7kW sending him over 200kW ATW. The turbo timer was another mod being done at the same time as the exhaust. It might actually even help with torque delivery, I dunno. Obviously it won't give anymore power, the reason I said both those mods is because previously BB had stated they would be getting done together.

Edit: Oops, I meant electronic boost controller, not turbo timer, sorry. :redface:

choonga
16-08-2006, 11:36 AM
I'd expect the 3" exhaust to give at least 7kW sending him over 200kW ATW. The turbo timer was another mod being done at the same time as the exhaust. It might actually even help with torque delivery, I dunno. Obviously it won't give anymore power, the reason I said both those mods is because previously BB had stated they would be getting done together.

hehe.. i know.. i'm just playin with ya!lol

Disciple
16-08-2006, 11:41 AM
hehe.. i know.. i'm just playin with ya!lol
Edited previous post. I meant Electronic Boost Controller, not turbo timer. :redface: