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slammed on 18s
08-12-2003, 09:15 PM
Hey all,

I need you all to put my mind at ease.
I just ordered new brake components from discpads.com.
$610 bucks worth ! :shock: 8) Now I need you guys to confirm that
these parts will fit my 99 TH Magna.
DBA 425 slotted front rotors
DBA 426 slotted rear rotors
Pads DB1203 and DB1204 (Bendix Performax)
Please don't give me any crap about this.
Judging from the parts guide at discpads I believe
these parts will fit but it doesn't specifically talk about
the TH Magna. I e-mailed them once and the guy said
that I should try the DBA 425 but thats pretty indefinite, isn't it. :roll:
I have also just finished e-mailing RPW regarding the same issue.
Your reassurance would be greatly appreciated.
I just need someone to "throw me a frikkin bone here" :badgrin: :lol:

BOosted' BOoya
08-12-2003, 09:20 PM
yep, they are the same ones i have


but mine are Xdrilled too :D

$610.. err. well, i wont go on, but i threw you a bone, and YES they will indefinately fit :D

dsfsdf
08-12-2003, 11:02 PM
mmm im getting some DBA brakes soon too :D

Manual
09-12-2003, 09:13 AM
yes - they will fit and for $610 delivered sounds about right for 4 rotors and a complete set of brake pads.

Manual

BOosted' BOoya
09-12-2003, 09:15 AM
oh, pads too. then thats a normal kinda price :D

first i though 610 for just the rotors! :P

Madmagna
09-12-2003, 04:50 PM
I have the DBA front slotted and they shudder like hell and are warped like crap. Spoke to DBA, they are not interested, tried to blame wheel allignment, tyres, dirt under the rotor (inbetween hub and rotor) etc etc.

Manual
09-12-2003, 04:51 PM
I have the DBA front slotted and they shudder like hell and are warped like crap. Spoke to DBA, they are not interested, tried to blame wheel allignment, tyres, dirt under the rotor (inbetween hub and rotor) etc etc.

mate - just curious what pads were you using with these rotors??

there has been some pads that don't work with DBA true - it has been noted in a few places from memory - just curious to know your pads

Manual

Madmagna
09-12-2003, 05:08 PM
Standard pads at first, too much fade so bendix advised ultimates, as I used them for years.

Mitsiman
09-12-2003, 05:17 PM
The warpage on the DBA is a commen problem when you either use Non Bendix pads liek EBC Kevlar which are not compatible with the DBA rotors or you do a lot of heavy hard brakign.

I can provide you with EBC rotors easily to match that price that I can garauntee won't warp. My EBC rotors on my magna with kevlar pads has done consistent 180km/hr braking at the drags and has no warpage at all even with some heat spots on teh rotor.

Email / pm me for prices.

Madmagna
09-12-2003, 05:44 PM
I have heard about EBC, anyone know where they can be purchased in melbourne?

philsTH
09-12-2003, 05:56 PM
Try RPW at www.rpw.com.au and go to contact RPW and there's a list of agents, 3 in Vic.

Madmagna
09-12-2003, 05:59 PM
ummm somewhere else please. I do not wish to trade with rpw.
I can get trade in a few places but none supply, I will have to do some shopping around.
I did once send 3 e-mails to one so called rpw agent in tullamarine to no response.

Mitsiman
10-12-2003, 08:03 AM
If you don't want to deal with our agents then you can deal with us direct adn we can send teh goods COD Australia post or direct bank transfer.

WE have an online ordering form now on our website

nigel
10-12-2003, 11:04 AM
Just curious as to these mods. I take it the rotors are the same diameter but are possibly made of a different material and have better heat dissipation properties through the use of slots and or holes. From what I have read there a different types of pads that work best with them. So I take it the same old stock calipers are being used. Is their really a significant braking performance gain to be had for this type of mod ? If your really serious wouldnt you have to spend big dollars on bigger rotors and calipers ?

Manual
10-12-2003, 11:06 AM
Is their really a significant braking performance gain to be had for this type of mod ? If your really serious wouldnt you have to spend big dollars on bigger rotors and calipers ?

This is a level down on the whole setup upgrade - the slotted rotors work well teo dissapate the heat better and also this leads to less brake fade!!

which is never fun!

Manual

slammed on 18s
10-12-2003, 12:10 PM
yeah , I bought them because my standard
brakes are getting a bit spongy and you really
have to stand on them to pull up hard.
Plus theres a slight grind in the rear :oops:
and I suspect there may be some warpage.
After a couple of hard stops its grind city, man. :x

Madmagna
10-12-2003, 08:30 PM
COD post. perth to melbourne would cost more than the rotors them selves, If I was to purchase I would be using my credit card and arranging freight my self however I hear RPW will not allow credit card transactions for some odd reason.
The arguement may be they can be cancelled however a chargeback can only occur if a genuine reason is present and the vendor also has to right of dispute.

BOosted' BOoya
10-12-2003, 08:45 PM
I hear RPW will not allow credit card transactions .

yep, no credit cards, which is why i didnt buy as much as i had planned.

then street torque came along :badgrin: :badgrin:

fysh
10-12-2003, 09:18 PM
[quote:1a14324479="Madmagna"]I hear RPW will not allow credit card transactions .

yep, no credit cards, which is why i didnt buy as much as i had planned.

then street torque came along :badgrin: :badgrin:[/quote:1a14324479]

woot how come no credit cards ? i wont buy anything over 500 without it because i get insurance and shit using the card

BOosted' BOoya
10-12-2003, 09:23 PM
woot how come no credit cards ? i wont buy anything over 500 without it because i get insurance and shit using the card

yep, same with me, i get a 90day guarantee and replacement when i use my CC. so i use it for everything!oh, and 30 days to pay ;) tee hee

but i dont spend more then i can afford.. *pats gold card* mmmm

EuroAccord13
10-12-2003, 09:35 PM
I've bought so much from RPW and I use TT, fast and simple for both parties, I call Dave in the afternoon, I TT the money the same day, he dispatches the goods to me the next day, no credit charges no nothing.. right to the dot....

I don't think Dave have any dramas with me putting the bling bling straight into his account...


CREDIT CARD charges like hell, considering my cards are overseas ones...... :( :(

BOosted' BOoya
10-12-2003, 09:38 PM
CREDIT CARD charges like hellquote]
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considering my cards are overseas ones...... :( :(

theres' you problem Nick!! ahahahha. if you use the card as intended,
ie. paid in full at the end of each month, then the all the card costs you is the annual fee of something like 33 for mine. so mmm. if used properly, its a VERY VERY VERY good tool!!

EuroAccord13
10-12-2003, 09:41 PM
theres' you problem Nick!! ahahahha. if you use the card as intended,
ie. paid in full at the end of each month, then the all the card costs you is the annual fee of something like 33 for mine. so mmm. if used properly, its a VERY VERY VERY good tool!!

I seriuosly dunno how much I spend on them each month coz the bill goes to my dad, I know when I spend too much, he'll call me up and starts to ask question heeheeheehee... but abit of "Oh Dad I Miss you" solves the problem :p :p :p

But yeah, I shouldn't be using the cards Ben.. not worth the exchange and charges yeah...

CHEERS BEN

BOosted' BOoya
11-12-2003, 04:44 AM
why not get a aussie card? so what if you leaving in like 3 months time, it only takes a week to get one, and when you leave, make sure its all charged up, so then when you leave the country, id like to see them chase after you to try recover the debt :lol: :lol: :lol:

Madmagna
11-12-2003, 05:53 AM
Well I guess in a way of tying to be diplomatic I am also saying that after all that has happened I would rather shop elsewhere.

Mitsiman
11-12-2003, 08:19 AM
We don't use credit cards for one simple reason

When a credit card is used over the phone the bank will not garauntee payment if the person quries the claim.

The reason being is I cannot prove that the person who ordered the goods is the same person who owns the card because I do not have a signature. Without a signature anyone can do a claim back and have a 90% chance of winning. We got caught with some major credit card fraud last year and will no longer ever take that chance.

We do take credit cards at our shop yes where peopel sign for it but no longer a telephone transaction.

The banks don't care that we got all the customers details etc. At the end of the day they ask one thing

Did you get a signature - no, then how can you prove this person is the person who ordered and recevied the goods. You can't then sorry we will do a drawback.

I would rather lose business and not get paid, and not incure the expense rather than send goods, lose the money and lose the goods.

Not that I beleive any of the Aussie Magna people would but with all the other options of bank transfers, COD Australia Post, money orders etc there is still no reason not to be able to buy goods.

Although I have just realised I have shown everyone how to do some major credit card fraud and get items for free. :shock:

But on the other hand, any company stupid enough to take on credit cards withotu seeing them, obviously accepts that inherent risk. :D

Redav
11-12-2003, 08:25 AM
Hmm... I BPAYed someone last night. Problem with BPAY is that my card only allows $1000 per day. Means that it would take me 6.8 years to pay for my Bugatti Veyron :lol:

MAGNA
11-12-2003, 08:31 AM
Simple - put a credit card payment system using an online provider.

There's shitloads out there, requires almost no effort from your behalf and you tell the customer on the phone - go to www.rpw.com.au, goto payments enter the payment amount and so fourth and you get the money.

BOosted' BOoya
11-12-2003, 09:15 AM
if you use the www.sonystyle.com.au website, as i do often 8) when you use your CC you enter the details online, which is cool, but before they process it, they call you asking you to photocopy your card, front and back and a passport/drivers licence with a photo and signature.

perhaps try this system? but then again, you guys are set on not accepting Credit cards so i spose thats that :(

not that it worries me. :lol:

Mitsiman
11-12-2003, 09:51 AM
The thing is that most people do not want or have access to sending photocopies of there credit cards, license cards etc.

At the end of the day from our point of view, the risk is not worth it but if someone wants to send all those details to me then we are happy to take a credit card.

Madmagna
11-12-2003, 11:18 AM
Simple reason hey, ever heard of a fax machine, this is a device that someone can fax an order through with a signature and do not try and tell me it will not count as I work in the finance industry.

As for COD post, comon dave, you must know the cost of COD post?

As for companies being stupid, there is what is called the "right of reply" where a vendor has the right to defent the right to keep the funds, 60% of charge backs never happen and if you know the people who are purchasing the goods, perhaps not in person but us regulars all meet up from time to time so there is not a bit step to contact some of us, you should not have these problems.

Anyway, ABS do these and i am also talking to another supplier willing to give me direct trade here in melbourne so no shipping needed.

Mitsiman
11-12-2003, 02:09 PM
We basically give people all the options

(A) They can pay via credit card as long as all forms of proof are provided and supplied to us

(B) They can do a direct bank transfer and get the cheaper means of freight

(C) They can pay australia post COD

At the end of the day teh customer has the choice. I am not sure why you are hassling us over this - but we have lost quite a few thousands over credit card fraud and in order to protect oursevles over this, we have had to make certain decisions. This is one of them. No proof of signature - no credit card transaction.

TBuTcher
11-12-2003, 04:44 PM
BACK TO THE POST!!!!

DBA 425 slotted front rotors
DBA 426 slotted rear rotors

What are the specs....?
Diameter and thickness.

Haydn

Manual
11-12-2003, 04:59 PM
What are the specs....?
Diameter and thickness.


Check here for dimensions!! (http://www.dba.com.au/catalogue/DBA%20Catalogue.htm)

Click on Mitsuibishi on teh LHS then scroll to Mitsu Magna for all specs!!

Was easier than me re-typing all the info!!

Manual

TBuTcher
11-12-2003, 05:10 PM
you couldnt "cut-n-paste" pfffft :D

Haydn

thanks

MAGNA / DIAMANTE
TE 4 Cyl, V6 4/96 - on
F 425 Vented A-276 B-45 C-24 D-22.4 E-69 F-5
R 426 Solid A-258 B-56.5 C-10.5 D-8.4 E-90 F-5

A = Diameter (measurement from one side of the rotor to the other)
B = Original Height (total thickness/height of the "hat"... rotor )
C = Original Thickness (of rotor ... bit between the pads)
D = Min. Thickness, i.e. Replacement (when rotor gets this thin .. bin it!)
E = Centre Hole (the Diameter of the hle in the middle of the rotor that locks it to the hub)
F = No. of Bolt Holes (how many nuts you have to remove to get wheel off!)

Manual
12-12-2003, 08:38 AM
you couldnt "cut-n-paste" pfffft :D


Nope I couldn't - if anyone was interested they would click the link - cos that also gives you a digram of the measurements!!

Not everyone hear understands what teh measurements actually are ;)

Manual

TBuTcher
12-12-2003, 09:07 AM
There ... now anyone can understand...
And those that cannot... well they probably cannot even get to this thread in the first place :D

Haydn

Manual
12-12-2003, 09:10 AM
Haha - good call!!

Manual

Madmagna
12-12-2003, 08:42 PM
Does anyone know the part numbers for the EBC rotors for the kr/s front and rear slotted.

Madmagna
15-12-2003, 02:19 PM
I have the numbers for the EBC fronts, am in the process of getting trade quote setup and I will ofcourse pass this on to fellow Aussie Magna mambers, as soon as I know I will post the price here for those who are interested.
Cheers Mal

WhiteDevil
16-12-2003, 09:42 AM
That will be great Mal, if you have the prices and locations for where to get the EBC rotors from in Melbourne, I'll definately consider it, as I just came back from a Great Ocean road drive on Sunday, having done some heavy braking and cornering, my brakes are not grinding and squealling and squeaching and everything else that goes with it... It was fun at the time, but didn't think about the after effects of the drive.

sorry for hi jacking thread.
what do you guys think i should do? cheap method, just change pads and leave the stock rotors for now, or change rotors and pads all together.

I'm worried about the price.

Mitsiman
16-12-2003, 02:07 PM
If you are looking at changing rotors anyway consider looking at the brakes overall and doing either the larger rotor / caliper / pad to 295mm package or simpl replace teh stock caliper with at twin piston unit.

that way you can improve braking as the stock magna caliper cannot use an EBC rotor as they are not imported into australia. But the twin piston calipers can and they do improve the braking by at least 40% over stock with less heat fade due to the EBC kevlar brake pad.s

fysh
16-12-2003, 02:12 PM
40% !! how much are just the cailipers and are they easy enough to fit with abs etc etc.

Mitsiman
16-12-2003, 04:52 PM
The calipers are very easy to fit no modifications needed at all.

For pricing best to PM or email me.

WhiteDevil
24-12-2003, 01:02 PM
Hey, i got a quote for DBA Front rotors, $125 each (sloted only)

how does that price sound? this is in melbourne btw.

DaJaJa
24-12-2003, 03:43 PM
Hey, i got a quote for DBA Front rotors, $125 each (sloted only)

how does that price sound? this is in melbourne btw.
yeah thats a good price!! go for them if you can...\

kev