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10-12-2003, 12:07 PM
Maybe not the most descriptive subject - but here goes.

I've been thinking about this for a while - so...

After how many modifications, or changes to your car, or what would you change for it no longer to be the 'car' that it was when bought.
Take magnas for example, or any other car, you rip the engine out, put a new one in, same with the gear box, and everything else under the bonnet (just an example - remember) - and as long as you still keep the 'case'/'body' of the car - do you still call it a magna? or is it something completely different?

So the question is - what is the 'heart' of a new car after which you can no longer call it or refer to it as the model/make of the original manufacturer.

Hope that makes sense.

Manual
10-12-2003, 12:09 PM
Well the Magna with the RWD and V8 platform racing at Bathurst last year was still classed a magna - so yeah - i spose the only thing that makes a car the car is the shell!!

Or maybe it is just the badging!!

Manual

slammed on 18s
10-12-2003, 12:14 PM
It is and will always be what the original
manufacturer deemed it to be ,no matter what

Big Daz
10-12-2003, 12:38 PM
Thats a really good question. Now you've got me thinking about it

Daz

Redav
10-12-2003, 12:44 PM
Well the Magna with the RWD and V8 platform racing at Bathurst last year was still classed a magna - so yeah - i spose the only thing that makes a car the car is the shell!!

Or maybe it is just the badging!!

And Holden race Commodores :lol:

Matt
10-12-2003, 01:40 PM
well u look at Drag Cars, specifically funny cars. I dunno if any of yaz remember someone posted a link a while back to the fastest rotary or somethign.......it was an aerodynamic shell that vaguely resembled an Rx-7, all the rest was roll-bars and an engine. but it was still classed as a series 6 Rx-7. so i guess as long as it kinda looks like it, it's still what it was orignially. :roll:

User_1
10-12-2003, 10:27 PM
id just say that any major parts that werent originally used by the same kind of car isnt the car it was stock.

Eg. Cars with engine conversions to a non magna available engine arent magnas

Cars with the front or rear or both changed to no longer resemble the stock car arent the original. (like a honda integra with a r34 front and rear)

MAGWGN
11-12-2003, 09:55 AM
i was thinking the drag car example as well. you really think thats a 1960's chev old victor bray is hammering down the quater mile?????? it seems to be that whatever shell you start with carries over. as long as it was a magna and still kinda looks like a magna its still a magna, even if the triple star badge is all that left original.

11-12-2003, 04:15 PM
hmm - ok then - but say you do this (not that you would in your right mind)

rip out the insides of a camry, and chuck 'em into a magna - and vice versa - will you call the magna 'case' a magna? or a camry? or <insert profanity>?

MAGWGN
11-12-2003, 04:22 PM
magna

Killbilly
11-12-2003, 04:24 PM
i was thinking the drag car example as well. you really think thats a 1960's chev old victor bray is hammering down the quater mile?????? it seems to be that whatever shell you start with carries over. as long as it was a magna and still kinda looks like a magna its still a magna, even if the triple star badge is all that left original.

1957 Chev.

Get it right dude :p haha

MAGWGN
11-12-2003, 04:25 PM
haha exactly as i said! its not a 1960's chev! LOL, dick wad!

Killbilly
11-12-2003, 04:26 PM
Yeah I know...but you didnt get it exactly right boyo!

Exacts are needed here...respect mate...respect the man with the chev ;)

MAGWGN
11-12-2003, 04:30 PM
but my whole point was to say it wasnt really i 1960's chev, and i was right!

Manual
11-12-2003, 04:31 PM
respect the man with the chev ;)

Except those driving commodores badged as chevs - we know the truth - they are still a commodore ;)

Manual

Killbilly
11-12-2003, 04:33 PM
true true

TBuTcher
11-12-2003, 04:36 PM
What ever the "shell" is...
ie I could change all swinging panels, guards and bars, engine, running gear..
etc... but as long as the shell (in our case the chasis) then it is a Magna.

Haydn