Hi All, Hoping someone can offer me some advise.
I have recently purchased a 2000TJ Magna Sports with 5 spd Tiptronic.
Drives ok but when putting into drive there is a few seconds delay before it engages.
Going from Neutral to reverse no probs and no delay.
Had a tranny service done as the fluid was filthy and a lot better but still a delay into drive.
Is this normal?
Comments by the transmission place were as follows:
"Road test vehicle and experienced concerns. Checked fault memory, none logged, checked trans electrics, ok. Internal mechanical fault with auto? possible forward clutch problem causing delay into drive. Burnt transmission fluid due to internal problem"
Any ideas??

Does it do it all the time or just when it's cold? It's normal if it does it when it's cold, but if it's warm than i'd say the filthy fluid is likely to have been caused by whatever the fault was internally like the tranny guy said.
How many km's has the car done?

Definately when its cold. I havent really had a chance to check it when its warm as I work just up the road from the tranny place. Will check tonight.
The tranny place said the fluid was filthy and had lots of fine metal shavings in it.
My guess was the auto was probably never serviced. Fine metal shavings is quite common I believe in an auto just from standard wear but I could be wrong. What concerns me is the fact they said it would cost around 3k to fix it. Apart from that it drives well and changes gears well. The only concern was the delay into drive.
The cars done 137k

i've been told a little bit of metal shavings is normal, alot is bad. As long as the car still drives properly after your auto flush, i can't see there being a problem. If it delays while warm you know your gearbox is on it's way out. I'm a little skeptical that the tranny place can tell you it's going to cost $3k just by replacing the fluid.

Mine takes about 1 second to engange from N to D because i don't like sitting on the brake at lights, so yeah i change a lot between the 2 i think its kinda normal!

Thanks for the info Guys. I'll see how it goes over the next few weeks. Would like to get it covered by warranty if its on the way out so still have another 2 months.
Its definately MUCH better now. When its warm it takes about a second to engage from Neutral to drive.

This is common in tj/kj's i have found and yes it can be fixed.

I had the problem with my KJ AWD. You would reverse out your driveway and go from R to D and it would take a few seconds to engage while cars were screaming up behind you.

I took it to Mitsub and they did something to fix it. It became normal after that. I recently changed my battery and it has gone back to the delay again so will get it done again.

I can remember seeing a thread on here on how to program your transmission delay time but cant remember under what or what exactly to do. It was something like disconnect battery and reconnect and move gears from one to another in some particular sequence. Someone might know where to find it.

One thing i did notice when i got the delay fixed was that the tiptronic side of things became a little more jerky when going back through the gears especially going back to second. Was like a real jolt. I guess it has something to do with delays etc.
When i changed my battery and the delay came back, tiptronic bacame smooth again because it seems like there was a bit of a delay when going back through the gears making the changes smoother.

This is common in tj/kj's i have found and yes it can be fixed.

I had the problem with my KJ AWD. You would reverse out your driveway and go from R to D and it would take a few seconds to engage while cars were screaming up behind you.

I took it to Mitsub and they did something to fix it. It became normal after that. I recently changed my battery and it has gone back to the delay again so will get it done again.

I can remember seeing a thread on here on how to program your transmission delay time but cant remember under what or what exactly to do. It was something like disconnect battery and reconnect and move gears from one to another in some particular sequence. Someone might know where to find it.

One thing i did notice when i got the delay fixed was that the tiptronic side of things became a little more jerky when going back through the gears especially going back to second. Was like a real jolt. I guess it has something to do with delays etc.
When i changed my battery and the delay came back, tiptronic bacame smooth again because it seems like there was a bit of a delay when going back through the gears making the changes smoother.

Had the same on my AWD. Mitsubishi never fixed it (had it serviced and then inspected later). Still do :confused:

I can remember seeing a thread on here on how to program your transmission delay time but cant remember under what or what exactly to do. It was something like disconnect battery and reconnect and move gears from one to another in some particular sequence. Someone might know where to find it.

here it is again

Somebody put this in the FAQ...

Thats the one.

Thanks Magtone.

Give it a go and see if it works. I will try it. If no luck, will try and find out what they did at Mitsub to get rid of the delay.

Thanks heaps guys. I'll give it a shot and let you know how I go.

My TL VRX AWD did the same thing from new. I asked Chadstone Mits, in VIC, to have a look at it, they said that they loaded new firmware, problem gone.

Ken

I'd say it's a common problem. Happens to me too.

me too bloody annoying

So you have to wait 1 second, big whoop. I'd rather wait the 1 second and have less wear on my tranny.

So you have to wait 1 second, big whoop. I'd rather wait the 1 second and have less wear on my tranny.

Only worries me doing 3 point turns on busy roads, nearly got cleaned up a few times, because to that lag time.

Only worries me doing 3 point turns on busy roads, nearly got cleaned up a few times, because to that lag time.
If you nearly get cleaned up waiting ONE second, maybe it wasn't safe to begin the 3 point turn in the first place?

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :stoopid:

i agree on that, but sometimes it can be annoying eg: parking etc.... sometimes 1sec feels like and eternity...!

but i dont have that problem som it's all good

some cars have crazy trans's, mates VR6 VW has the hugest delay and when on a hill it will roll for a tiny bit before engaing the gear when changing from p to d or r, so you have to use 2 feet sometimes.... thats stupid, but was just how it was on all of that particular model

It can be fixed if that procedure doesnt fix it.

And yes it can be dangerous and unsafe having such a delay when its not ment to be like that.
I was backing out of a car park the other day in a shopping centre when the person behind me also decided to. Thats no probs, i stopped but when the other person doesnt see you and keeps comming, you slam it into drive and floor it to get out of there way before they hit you but you just sit there doing 5 grand in drive going no where waiting for the damm tranny to engage while the person is about to back into you.

That is where it can be dangerous.

But if you take it to Mitsub, they should be able to fix it.

yes!!! good example! and thats also when you snap axles or the trans drops it's guts on the road... of if your lucky you just smoke the tyres

If you nearly get cleaned up waiting ONE second, maybe it wasn't safe to begin the 3 point turn in the first place?

I agree, thats why I've stopped doing it :D Took longer than it should have for me to realise it though. Never had this on any of my other cars. Its a bit odd.

Hehe fair enough. I just make sure i never put myself in the position where i have to accelerate quickly. That's when accidents happen :).

Replaced battery and got the long delay back between N and D.

Followed the procedure in the document and it fixed the problem.

No delay at all now.

It Works!!

Replaced battery and got the long delay back between N and D.

Followed the procedure in the document and it fixed the problem.

No delay at all now.

It Works!!

...in the AWD? Might have to give this a go.

Yeah the KJ AWD.

Couldnt believe it when i put the battery back in and the dreeded 2 second delay was back.

Back to perfect now, probably even better.

Make sure you follow the instructions exactly. Best to do it in the morn when car is cold. Just make sure revs drop below 1000 before starting the procedure.

Hi All, I use this every time I do a trans service, 20,000kms, in both my Ralliart and my Wifes TE Altera with a 3.5ltr n Ralliart cams. It works perfectly every time and we have never had any shifting problems with either car since. Highly recomended procedure and remember to always flush!lol