just wondering how much an intercooler cools air to. dont noe if this is feasable as a means of a cold air intake it will probably to costly. hook up a pod filter into one end of the intercooler and mount the other end to the airbox. the odds are that this wont work and probably to costly. just wanted peoples opinion on this idea.

yeah wont improve flow matey, intercoolers are cheap tho $200 on ebay for a generic one

oh ok... hmmm would the air coming from the intercooler be any beneficial as it may be colder?????

i was under the impression that it only works on turbo because of vacuum

it would get air if you plumbed both inlet/outlet to the pod area but the cost of piping and fitment would be insane for no effect on an N/A car

The intercoolers uses ambient air to cool heated/compressed air down to as close to ambient as they are efficient.

If you are sucking in ambient are and it is not going through a turbo/supercharger then it will stay at ambient and running it through a intercooler which can cool it down to ambient would be pointless.

Pointless if the intake air hasn't been heated by a compressor prior to going into the intercooler, and as synergy stated - would do nothing for flow, which is what you need in a N/A application.

Only intercooling option which could conceivably make a difference in an N/A engine would be a air/ice intercooler, but even then it's pretty much pointless (and you have to keep filling it up with ice).

or maybe you could fill it up with rice! cos thats what it would be if you fitted one lol

Seen a few cars where ppl have fitted great big front mount coolers with no need.

You have a closer look... (saw one at the mechanics on a standard civic). Pipes went nowhere. OMFG. Loser with a great big capital L.

Cheers
Heath Young

you can cool the intak charge below ambient in NA by high/low injector placement, phasing the high injectors to fire at a predetirmined rpm/load. Have a good article on it in the next issue of Race magazine.

Even in turbo applications having to bigger intercooler can work against you producing LAG

just wondering how much an intercooler cools air to. dont noe if this is feasable as a means of a cold air intake it will probably to costly. hook up a pod filter into one end of the intercooler and mount the other end to the airbox. the odds are that this wont work and probably to costly. just wanted peoples opinion on this idea.


In an efficient high boost application about 10degrees above ambient for an air to air, thats as good as you'll get unless you have some assistance like c02 shots but theres plenty out there waaaay above that :P also under prolonged load situations the temps will usually climb to above that as the intercooler starts suffering from heat soak.

In an NA engine an intercooler would be the devil, it'd force the air to split up and change directions multiple times, each direction change is a loss, and provide nothing in the way of cooling, it'd be the same temp or hotter than the air your drawing in. We've had people at work ask about fitting intercoolers to naturally aspirated engines :P

Matthius

the magna intake is already pretty good
ive got pacemaker exractors on mine and it just sucks air in lovely. also sounds like its got a blow off vlve when you shift... SWEET

the snorkel system is pretty good on the stock intake....
i still use that on mine instead of goin for the "cold air intake" that most ppl have gone for and mine does the trick...

heres my intake anyways

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/mehhh/Intake.jpg

Meh, all that pod will suck in is hot engine bay air. Looking at how it's setup, the main point of contact the pod has with the stock snorkel is covered with a big metal plate on the pod. You will always get a lot better results with an enclosed pod.

there has been multiple tests done from mitsi performance houses here in SA and the K&N panel is the best....

Meh, all that pod will suck in is hot engine bay air. Looking at how it's setup, the main point of contact the pod has with the stock snorkel is covered with a big metal plate on the pod. You will always get a lot better results with an enclosed pod.


BINGO!!

all ur doin is suckin in hot air. the snorkel does SFA in your setup, in fact its probably hindering airflow if anything. it needs to be fully sealed.

*and lets not get into anymore pod vs panel debates*