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Asylum
18-09-2006, 09:53 AM
As Australia focuses on the VE Commodore/BF Falcon large car stoush or the Toyota Camry/Mazda6/Honda Accord Euro/Subaru Liberty medium combatants, there is an up to the minute and cheaper middle line that might be better than all of them depending on your requirements. After I had covered over 2000km in each variation of the first Mitsubishi 380 series and was left with a huge respect for the model, the latest SX Series 2 at its $32,990 starting price had my attention as it should for anyone looking for a low cost but good quality family car.

This sporty SX alternative to an XR6 or SV6 is now $2000 cheaper than the base 380 level at launch. Its 3.8-litre six is bigger and smoother than both of Holden's V6 engines in a car that weighs up to 200kg less. When its five-speed auto is significantly better than Holden's base V6 four-speed auto and at least as good as the VE's premium five-speed auto, it has the potential to deliver better economy in urban conditions with equivalent or better performance. It's also a useful half size smaller at 4837mm long, 1840mm wide on a 1570mm track versus 4894mm,1899mm and 1602 front/1618mm rear for the VE Commodore.

Although the turning circle is wide for the 380's size, it is still smaller at 11.2 compared to the VE's massive 11.4 metres. Without the VE's hidden wheel arch blisters and fat windscreen pillars, the 380 is also much easier to position in confined spaces than the Commodore while providing significantly more rear seat hip space for three than the imported medium cars.

The 380 marks a return to the first Magna formula of a wider medium car, not a downgraded prestige model like the two Magna series that followed. This explains why it feels a much more youthful, more agile car to drive than any recent Magna and its heavy Australian rivals. Equally, it feels more substantial than the current crop of Japanese and Korean medium cars. The SX sports suspension is considerably more refined and compliant for everyday use than Holden's VE sports specification. It also lacks the crash-through and sharp jolts that mar the Japanese imports as soon as you leave smooth bitumen.

This is one of the few sporty family cars that you can drive quickly over most Australian road surfaces without upsetting it. As Australians become more dependent on imports that don't have suspensions tuned for local roads, the 380 SX was like a breath of fresh air. It turns in willingly with little body roll or front drive scrub in tight corners providing you don't unleash the considerable grunt. The 380 SX, despite the standard traction control, can get untidy when you plant the foot and has more than enough power in a car of this size and weight.

The 380 SX brings 17-inch alloy wheels, mesh sports grille, contoured front sports seats with six way driver's seat electric adjustment, leather-wrapped steering wheel, premium six-stacker in-dash CD sound with eight speakers and an exceptionally clear instrument display that includes an easy-to-read auto gear indicator as it works through its sequential dash lights. Clever remote steering wheel controls are mounted on the back of the spokes while the single zone climate control system has outlets for rear passengers. The SX also gets the top level 4.9-inch TFT screen with graphics and colour effects similar to the latest mobile phones and 10-function computer. Factor in the 10-year non-transferable powertrain warranty and it should be done deal. Not so fast.

While I personally like the new 380 shape, it has already become anonymous even if there are still not many on the roads. There is no rear spoiler and the lack of external detailing on the cheaper models can be a turn-off for those excited by the showroom presentation of the Honda Accord Euro or Mazda 6. Even though there are more padded and tactile surfaces inside the 380 than the hard plastics common in Japanese imports these days, they don't present as well with the cheap-looking centre section and button-shaped knobs.

The 380 misses out on steering column reach adjustment but with the generous power seat adjustment and steering wheel tilt, it won't matter to most drivers. Driver comfort and cabin layout are as good as any of its rivals and better than some. However, the lack of a fold down rear seat may veto the 380 for some families. This is a real oversight shared with the VE Commodore when you can no longer buy a wagon version.

If you can see past these shortfalls and drive a 380 SX on a wide variety of roads, you will be impressed by the body integrity and smoothness. It is a nice car in the fundamentals rather than a tarted-up ordinary one. The 380 is more a direct rival for the Toyota Camry before Toyota split its range into the four cylinder Camry and V6 Aurion. Mitsubishi's original plan was to do something similar but after the bigger Mitsubishi model was cancelled, Mitsubishi was forced to cover both bases with a single 380 range which leaves it as the only one of its type with this much grunt at the price.

If you are in the market for a four-cylinder front-drive medium car which is the 380's true hunting ground, the big obstacle on paper is the potential for the big 3.8-litre V6 to guzzle petrol. The claimed 10.8lt/100km figure for the SX auto is close enough to the base BF Falcon or VE Commodore autos and significantly worse than the benchmark $40,960 XR6 with its extra cost six-speed auto.

Yet the lighter weight of the 380 SX should generate better figures than its full size rivals in stop-start traffic. To test this, I undertook a 65 km loop through inner Melbourne in dense but constantly moving traffic through 60, 70 and 80km/h speed zones driving only as hard as I needed to keep up. Using a bowser fill readout verified by a computer average, this generated a genuine 10.8lt/100km fuel figure, identical to Mitsubishi's claim.

Providing you can resist the temptation to access the V6's extra grunt, this is so close to what the big Japanese fours will deliver under these conditions, it doesn't matter. Overtaking urge on the open road especially when loaded is in another league. Factor in the $5-6000 saving over some of its rivals and the 380 SX could well be one of the hidden bargains on today's market.

Tim-E
18-09-2006, 10:01 AM
aaaand is the best looking 380 model available :D

adz89
18-09-2006, 01:59 PM
I read this review, I like the fact that the Holden/Ford bias isn't soooooo evident in this review. About time I can read something without thinking wtf is wrong with the reviewer.

Car Point seem to do half decent reviews, where as Drive are just full of sh*t.

Knotched
18-09-2006, 02:20 PM
It's funny a lot of reviewers go on about the interior.

My last car was the KE Verada and I loved the interior, but now I find the 380 interior a lot roomier and lighter. The dash and controls are sooo comfortable. I particularly like the feel of the indicator stalk (don't take that the wrong way!) and how your arm rests on the centre console with your left hand on the gear selector ready to use tiptronic.

The controls are easy to use and are pretty much set and forget, as was the Verada. The blue backlighting at night is really good, apart from being cool, because it doesn't affect your night sight as much and a red warning light stands out immediately.

The CD and audio controls on the steering wheel are well done mainly because they don't get in the way during hard driving. You use them conciously otherwise just forget them.

The only area I find plasticky is the overhead light and sunglasses assembly. This could have been manufactured with a better finish.

heydude
19-09-2006, 05:20 PM
Sounds like a good review, he is right, Mitsu got it correct in the basic fundamentals of a motor vehicle, the base is very good, so when you have a good base as a vehicle then for the modders out there it is even better.:badgrin:

TFBoy
20-09-2006, 08:01 AM
Was right on the mark about fuel consumptions, sometimes ppl just perceives that 4 cylinders = fuel efficient, i know a couple of camrys that has worse fuel consumptions than the 3.0 magnas

adz89
20-09-2006, 02:45 PM
Something really really shocks me here. Peope go on about RWD's having better turning circles and Magna's having crap turning circles (11.2m). Well, the 380 also has an 11.2m turning circle and the Commodore has an 11.4m turning circle. I find it funny as soooo many people complain about the Magna's turning circle, so the new Commdore must be like a truck. So the whole thing about RWD having a better turning circle is a load of bs. I know the Commodore is a bigger car than the 380, but, because it is RWD, people beleive its turning circle is better :bowrofl:

Tim-E
20-09-2006, 03:12 PM
Something really really shocks me here. Peope go on about RWD's having better turning circles and Magna's having crap turning circles (11.2m). Well, the 380 also has an 11.2m turning circle and the Commodore has an 11.4m turning circle. I find it funny as soooo many people complain about the Magna's turning circle, so the new Commdore must be like a truck. So the whole thing about RWD having a better turning circle is a load of bs. I know the Commodore is a bigger car than the 380, but, because it is RWD, people beleive its turning circle is better :bowrofl:
I was also surprised to read that, but the idea that RWD's have a better turning circle is not bull****. The magna front wheels simply dont turn as much as that on RWD cars (for the most part). The EL wagon i used to drive turned the front wheels WAY more than my car.

I think its just simply cos the VE is such a big ***** of a car! A turning circle worse than a Magna? Thats the stuff of nightmares!! :shock:

adz89
20-09-2006, 03:33 PM
I was also surprised to read that, but the idea that RWD's have a better turning circle is not bull****. The magna front wheels simply dont turn as much as that on RWD cars (for the most part). The EL wagon i used to drive turned the front wheels WAY more than my car.

I think its just simply cos the VE is such a big ***** of a car! A turning circle worse than a Magna? Thats the stuff of nightmares!!

The VE isn't that big of a car though. It's bigger than a 380, but because it is RWD I expected it to have a smaller turning circle. Perhaps for the Caprice 11.4m would be more accepted, but for the standard Commodore I think 11.4m is too big considering people always complained about Magna's turning circle, regardless if it was RWD or FWD.

thatdbeme
21-09-2006, 11:33 AM
it reminds me of the current maxima i drove as a hire car, it was 11.4 and it was horrible

adz89
21-09-2006, 02:12 PM
it reminds me of the current maxima i drove as a hire car, it was 11.4 and it was horrible
I just explained how the Commodore had an 11.4m turning circle to my dad and he said to me that "the Maxima has the same turning circle, which is crap".

valaxy66
21-09-2006, 03:00 PM
**** the new holden is crap, i'm sorry, but its just so crap, and reading motor today, they can get ****ed, they look absolute ****, i don't want my dad to get a new caprice, its not worth the money, especially in the xr6t vs ss story, the ss can get ****ed, nose heavy sack of crap that is only good down the quater, give me xr6t anyday, better yet give me none of those cars cause there plain

Asylum
21-09-2006, 03:44 PM
**** the new holden is crap, i'm sorry, but its just so crap, and reading motor today, they can get ****ed, they look absolute ****, i don't want my dad to get a new caprice, its not worth the money, especially in the xr6t vs ss story, the ss can get ****ed, nose heavy sack of crap that is only good down the quater, give me xr6t anyday, better yet give me none of those cars cause there plain

and your evidence on this is......??

how can a caprice that has dropped in price, but increased in equipment and, well, everything be bad value?

and the VE is less nose-heavy than pretty much any large aussie RWD before it! engines are further back, wheels are moved forward.... take your badge hating somewhere else

Knotched
22-09-2006, 05:58 AM
I don't think it's helpful "crapping" on other makes here in light of the OP. I think the original intent of the post was to show that the SX was becoming a viable option in the market.

GoTRICE
22-09-2006, 08:26 AM
The VE isn't that big of a car though. It's bigger than a 380, but because it is RWD I expected it to have a smaller turning circle. Perhaps for the Caprice 11.4m would be more accepted, but for the standard Commodore I think 11.4m is too big considering people always complained about Magna's turning circle, regardless if it was RWD or FWD.

ummm isnt the VE again heavier, i was sitting at the lights next to one and i thought it was going to eat my car, there is just no reason for the cars to get bigger and bigger...

also whats the turning circle of a ts, cause my dad's statesman is way better regardless of it's boatlikeness, looks like mitsu have fixed it woot!

valaxy66
22-09-2006, 12:53 PM
and your evidence on this is......??

how can a caprice that has dropped in price, but increased in equipment and, well, everything be bad value?

and the VE is less nose-heavy than pretty much any large aussie RWD before it! engines are further back, wheels are moved forward.... take your badge hating somewhere else

i don't hate holden, i was a fan of there clubsport pre 2000, and a fan of there ss 2001-mid2006
i didn't like ford untill the ba range came out
mist isn't the greatest car maker, but there new evo is good, and looks alot better then the sti. the magna they made look better then both ford and holden from 1994-2001 for ford, and 1994-1999 for holden ( i think),

and i don't think the 380 looks as good as the new ford, but looks better then the new ****ty holden, but at the moment mazda looks better then the whole lot, i'm sorry

and i would rather my dad get a 300c or a bmw 3 then a boring plain caprice

Disciple
22-09-2006, 12:55 PM
Obviously there is no evidence because it's just a strong opinion. Totally out of place in this thread tho.