View Full Version : Anyone Actually Turbo'd A 2.4
crackajnr
24-09-2006, 07:00 PM
I've been searching the forums and noticed a few people talking about turboing their 2.4 but i was wondering has anyone actully completed the conversion that could give advice and maybe some pics.
narkus2
25-09-2006, 09:33 AM
yeah, im in the process of doing it at the moment. All ready to go except for one thing. Australia Post ****ing lost my turbocharger. Currently going through all the rigmarol of tracking down the last location to where it went, before the turbocharger is found, or compensation can be given.
Feel free to ask any questions, i'm pretty sure i'll have most of the answers.
Matty_J
25-09-2006, 09:41 AM
Yeh im the same as narkus although as i explained to you in the PM i have ran short of $$$ unfortuantly, what do you need to know mate? have you got what you need or do you need advice on what you need??
let me or narkus know and we can give you a brief outline on what you would need and how much it would cost!!
heydude
25-09-2006, 02:07 PM
There are a few in the states that have been turbo'd.
They even sell a kit over there for them, from memory the kit costs around 4K to buy.
The torque is supposed to be really good from an article I read on them.
I lost all the links and info from a few years ago so cant give you much more then that other then when I looked into it you can put on the older EVO dohc head, just plug up a few oil drain holes.
You should be able to pull some really impressive power out of these motors, the shop said to me that 300hp would'nt even be breakin a sweat.
From memory I think you can use the turbo manifolds off an old evo too.
Just do some research, you'll find most of it very positive for this mod.
crackajnr
26-09-2006, 02:58 PM
Basically i'm after a parts needed list ,what turbo size is recommended do i need piggyback computer ,change injectors,bigger fuel pump,fuel reg,and that sort of stuff,i know it probably depends on what size turbo i use and other engine modsbut i guess i need to start somewhere.thanks in advance.
EZ Boy
05-10-2006, 08:08 PM
What is known about the motor's internals? 2bolt mains, 4 bolt? Floating piston? Rod shape? Block thickness, head design. Not bashing, I want to know! I think we all need to know.
Ford fella
05-10-2006, 08:18 PM
i don't think anyone has looked into it that much, basically from what i have found is the engine is a 4g63 sohc that has been stroked to 2.4l thus making a 4g64,
i was looking at turbo but turbo cars seem common as, but have another idea in the pipeline, which i will keep quiet until i have investigated more,
_stonesour_
06-10-2006, 01:36 PM
so for 2.4's actuially have a bored evo engine .. hmmmmm interesting lol ... never new that but makes sense
though being bored and all it wouldnt quite be tuff as nails as the 4g63 yeah?
anywhoo goodluck with it though
bob_saget
06-10-2006, 02:41 PM
cant believe no ones mentioned this yet..... MONGA!!!!! hes the only person i know of on these forums thats turbo'd a 2.4 so far..... that and he's selling the turbo kit!!
Disciple
06-10-2006, 02:44 PM
cant believe no ones mentioned this yet..... MONGA!!!!! hes the only person i know of on these forums thats turbo'd a 2.4 so far..... that and he's selling the turbo kit!!
Wasn't his a 2.6? Second gen 2.6. Third Gens came with the 2.4.
Matty_J
06-10-2006, 03:04 PM
Wasn't his a 2.6? Second gen 2.6. Third Gens came with the 2.4.
Correct!! thread is about the 3rd gen 2.4L, mongas was 2nd gen 2.6
bob_saget
06-10-2006, 04:37 PM
ahh sorry fellas, thats pretty stupid though, bringing out the next model, which is physically larger and heavier, with a smaller motor.... anyway, just buy a 3.5l third gen.... you'll probably end up with the same power and save some money in the process
M4DDOG
06-10-2006, 04:41 PM
ahh sorry fellas, thats pretty stupid though, bringing out the next model, which is physically larger and heavier, with a smaller motor.... anyway, just buy a 3.5l third gen.... you'll probably end up with the same power and save some money in the process
Not really, the 2.4L motor was technically more advanced than the 2.6 and produces more power i believe.
Matty_J
06-10-2006, 04:43 PM
ahh sorry fellas, thats pretty stupid though, bringing out the next model, which is physically larger and heavier, with a smaller motor.... anyway, just buy a 3.5l third gen.... you'll probably end up with the same power and save some money in the process
Mate you would be suprised at how quick these things go, with a good turbo setup it will spank most N/A 3.5L's.
crackajnr
06-10-2006, 05:59 PM
straight from mitsubishi specs 2.4 =105kw@5500rpm and 205nm@3000 rpm and the 3.0= 140kw@5500rpm and 255nm@4500rpm is not that bigger difference.cheaper rego too.:thumbsup:
M4DDOG
06-10-2006, 06:10 PM
straight from mitsubishi specs 2.4 =105kw@5500rpm and 205nm@3000 rpm and the 3.0= 140kw@5500rpm and 255nm@4500rpm is not that bigger difference.cheaper rego too.:thumbsup:
lol ummm yeh it is, 3.5L is around the 300nm torque mark and just take a look at the diff between the 3.5 and 3L.
Matty_J
06-10-2006, 06:19 PM
lol ummm yeh it is, 3.5L is around the 300nm torque mark and just take a look at the diff between the 3.5 and 3L.
Yeh its definitly a big difference lol
Although 2.4 turbo would be a different story.
HAMISH2
07-10-2006, 01:01 AM
ahh sorry fellas, thats pretty stupid though, bringing out the next model, which is physically larger and heavier, with a smaller motor.... anyway, just buy a 3.5l third gen.... you'll probably end up with the same power and save some money in the process
mate dont under estimate the power of the 4 cylinder fury's!especialy the third gen 4 cylinder fury's!:badgrin:
Mate you would be suprised at how quick these things go, with a good turbo setup it will spank most N/A 3.5L's.
yeap dam straight matty_j my mate,i have only done a few mods to my 2.4 and it bloody floors it!new clutch kit,sports exhaust,CAI,rampod and filter,plus its a manual!:D
:dancin:
MicJaiy
07-10-2006, 05:32 AM
I'm lost into what this "4 cylinder fury" all means
I driven my car -3.5L NA Verada which is around 150-200kg heavier than the magna and I've driven my grandpas 2.4L Magna and and all I can say is; i feel sorry for ppl who got the 4 cylinder lol
Its very slow..
Big Car + Small Engine = :doubt:
Sorry to bash the 3rd gen 4 banger magnas but, People that own 2.4L and think they are quick either never driven a 3.5L or they are lying to themselves to think that they are quick.
Now after all that, I was speaking to MattyJ about his turbo conversion a while back and I reckon it would be pretty sweet! :D
crackajnr
07-10-2006, 06:01 AM
the way all you 3.0lt and 3.5lt guys talk you all think you are driving rocket ships reallity check they're not, i've seen the quarter mile times some of you guys have posted sorry to say not that quick.:D
MicJaiy
07-10-2006, 06:09 AM
the way all you 3.0lt and 3.5lt guys talk you all think you are driving rocket ships reallity check they're not, i've seen the quarter mile times some of you guys have posted sorry to say not that quick.:D
I stand by my previous post, my car isn't a rocket ship BTW :D
Also can someone post up 2.4L magna 1/4 mile times?
Disciple
07-10-2006, 06:21 AM
I stand by my previous post, my car isn't a rocket ship BTW :D
Also can someone post up 2.4L magna 1/4 mile times?
High 17's, low 18's?
High 17's, low 18's?
:shock: surely higher than that, ive seen first gens do around that, if not better!
Sports
07-10-2006, 08:18 AM
:shock: surely higher than that, ive seen first gens do around that, if not better!
First Gens are a lot lighter than a 3rd gen to remember, 150-200kg depending on model's and they are easy to get a big of power out of them to as I've been finding out.
Mitsiman
07-10-2006, 08:28 AM
http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=149&Itemid=40
RPW Just finished this 2.4 Mivec engine. Whole kit could be adapted to the 2.4 Magna very easily.
And if Mitsubishi do release the 2.4 Mivec engine into the 380 range, expect to see some of these kits on them
MicJaiy
07-10-2006, 08:35 AM
http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=149&Itemid=40
RPW Just finished this 2.4 Mivec engine. Whole kit could be adapted to the 2.4 Magna very easily.
And if Mitsubishi do release the 2.4 Mivec engine into the 380 range, expect to see some of these kits on them
Just showed that to my sister lol
Theres no pricing, how much would that roughly all cost for the turbo setup?
HAMISH2
07-10-2006, 09:00 AM
I'm lost into what this "4 cylinder fury" all means
I driven my car -3.5L NA Verada which is around 150-200kg heavier than the magna and I've driven my grandpas 2.4L Magna and and all I can say is; i feel sorry for ppl who got the 4 cylinder lol
Its very slow..
Big Car + Small Engine = :doubt:
Sorry to bash the 3rd gen 4 banger magnas but, People that own 2.4L and think they are quick either never driven a 3.5L or they are lying to themselves to think that they are quick.
Now after all that, I was speaking to MattyJ about his turbo conversion a while back and I reckon it would be pretty sweet! :D
im not realy up for argueing but il share my point of view,
mate ive driven some of friends magnas,the 3.5 v6 and the 3.0 v6 yeah ***in oath faster than the stock 2.4,but when 2.4s are modded mate they floor it!and no im not lying to myself,from my expereince driving the v6s(only driven stock v6s) the power of the v6 is incredible,ppl always say to me sell your 4cylinder magna buy a car with a bigger engine,but im quite happy with it,and impressed with wat ive done to it so far:)
Matty_J
07-10-2006, 09:13 AM
I'm lost into what this "4 cylinder fury" all means
I driven my car -3.5L NA Verada which is around 150-200kg heavier than the magna and I've driven my grandpas 2.4L Magna and and all I can say is; i feel sorry for ppl who got the 4 cylinder lol
Its very slow..
Big Car + Small Engine = :doubt:
Sorry to bash the 3rd gen 4 banger magnas but, People that own 2.4L and think they are quick either never driven a 3.5L or they are lying to themselves to think that they are quick.
Now after all that, I was speaking to MattyJ about his turbo conversion a while back and I reckon it would be pretty sweet! :D
Yeh your right, the 3.5L will totally spank the 2.4L, i have had a spin in plenty of V6's, i used to own one before my magna, but my point being that if the 2.4L is turbocharged it will spank any N/A magna, with the right mods and enough money *which i dont have atm* the power gains could be massive, im talking 250KW easy!!
So having said that the 2.4L are worth having imo if you willing to go forced induction, as it is a lot cheaper to turbocharge a 4cyl that it is a 6cyl, and the mods available are incredible, any 4g63T part is most likely going to fit our engines with little effort, which is why i got the 4cyl in the first place as i love BOOST!! lol
just atm my job doesnt pay enough to finish what i tried to start, but once i have things sorted out with the cash flow, ill be sure to give any magna out there are run for there money.
HAMISH2
07-10-2006, 09:28 AM
ill be sure to give any magna out there are run for there money.
:badgrin:
:D
cant wait to see it mate!
M4DDOG
07-10-2006, 09:30 AM
lol of course if you throw forced induction into the mix you're going to spank N/A v6's :P.
It's more just a stock for stock comparison, smaller engine in the same sized car, you do the maths :).
No reason why the 2.4 can't out perform a standard v6 with the right mods, i know some manual 1st gens that could wipe out the 3rd gen v6's.
Matty_J
07-10-2006, 09:37 AM
lol of course if you throw forced induction into the mix you're going to spank N/A v6's :P.
It's more just a stock for stock comparison, smaller engine in the same sized car, you do the maths :).
No reason why the 2.4 can't out perform a standard v6 with the right mods, i know some manual 1st gens that could wipe out the 3rd gen v6's.
Yeh well as i have said of course a stock 2.4L is going to lose against a stock V6 3.0 or 3.5, thats just common sense, but for ppl to say that these cars have no power is just a bit over the top, with mods like full zorst, high flow cat, pods etc they do have some grunt. i should have taken it down the Q mile the other week at heathcote to prove they are quicker than 17 secs!!
Mrmacomouto
07-10-2006, 10:03 AM
Yeh well as i have said of course a stock 2.4L is going to lose against a stock V6 3.0 or 3.5, thats just common sense, but for ppl to say that these cars have no power is just a bit over the top, with mods like full zorst, high flow cat, pods etc they do have some grunt. i should have taken it down the Q mile the other week at heathcote to prove they are quicker than 17 secs!!
What we talking here, 16.6?
You can mod the 2.4L all you like, but unless you do the same mods to both cars you can't really say that the 2.4 is going to be better
MicJaiy
07-10-2006, 10:15 AM
lol of course if you throw forced induction into the mix you're going to spank N/A v6's :P.
It's more just a stock for stock comparison, smaller engine in the same sized car, you do the maths :).
exactly, when the supercharger goes into a 3.5 like my car very soon.. i mean, what? did i just say that out loud? :shifty:
What we talking here, 16.6?
You can mod the 2.4L all you like, but unless you do the same mods to both cars you can't really say that the 2.4 is going to be better
:stoopid:
M4DDOG
07-10-2006, 10:17 AM
exactly, when the supercharger goes into a 3.5 like my car very soon.. i mean, what? did i just say that out loud? :shifty:
nice mate! Will definitely have to check it out when it's done :). And you can tune my audio while i'm :drool: haha.
Monga
07-10-2006, 08:48 PM
2.4 turbo would be similer to the 2.6 with results around 200fwhp. I've seen RPW's mivec turbo for 9months work it wasnt too bad power fiqures where ok the intercooler setup was different and looked effective pitty the fabrication wasnt done in house.
I'd get some forgies made up and drop the compression then something quick might happen seeing 13's
Sideswipe
07-10-2006, 09:19 PM
I truely cannot see the point. Pour a whole bunch of money into something so it can be a little bit faster than a stock 3.5l? :nuts:
Matty_J
08-10-2006, 06:34 AM
I truely cannot see the point. Pour a whole bunch of money into something so it can be a little bit faster than a stock 3.5l? :nuts:
Are you serious, a little bit faster than stock??
If i turbo my car and pull 200KW+ how can that be just faster than stock??? :nuts:
and people pour money into the 6's so whats the difference???
what because it has 2 less cylinders its not worthy :gtfo:
Matty_J
08-10-2006, 06:38 AM
What we talking here, 16.6?
You can mod the 2.4L all you like, but unless you do the same mods to both cars you can't really say that the 2.4 is going to be better
No your right, you cant and im only saying that it will be a beast once charged, these engines are a bored out 4g63!! now i have seen many 4g63T's done up and ive also seen these engines pull more than 250KW+ATW with just an upgrade of turbos injectors pumps etc so having said that 250KW aint that hard to acheive, so having said that you tell me one NA magna that can pull that much power??? hell even the SC magnas aint producing that much power!!
And whats wrong with 16.6 for a 4cyl that would be a good time!! ive seen 3L run times like that, maybe a lil faster!!
Disciple
08-10-2006, 07:03 AM
Are you serious, a little bit faster than stock??
If i turbo my car and pull 200KW+ how can that be just faster than stock??? :nuts:
and people pour money into the 6's so whats the difference???
what because it has 2 less cylinders its not worthy :gtfo:
He said faster than a stock 3.5L. I can't see you getting 200kW ATW without A LOT of work and mods. Remember, BB has 200kW ATW with his. You're looking at more like 200HP ATW. Anyway, gluck with it.
Matty_J
08-10-2006, 07:16 AM
He said faster than a stock 3.5L. I can't see you getting 200kW ATW without A LOT of work and mods. Remember, BB has 200kW ATW with his. You're looking at more like 200HP ATW. Anyway, gluck with it.
Yeh a lot of work is in order to pull that much power, but as far as i can see that doesnt seem impossible with the money i will be earning in the near future, but yes it will take a lot of mods in order to pull it off, but yeh as i have said there are a few 4g64T's in the states pulling some nice power out of the eclipse's which have the same engines as ours, which is why i dont see the point in ppl saying that its pointless to mod a 2.4? our engines stock are only 30-50KWS off the larger magna relatives, so to get a 100KW gain with a good 6-8k seems like an acheivable goal!
Type40
08-10-2006, 07:24 AM
Im actually looking foward to seeing Matty J's 2.4 turboed.... Mainly so he can say a big "i told you so" and put the detractors back in their box! lol Anyhoo... I love seeing people doing something different and doing a 4 cyl 3rd gen is different. Conformity bites! Go for it fellas! :D
EZ Boy
08-10-2006, 08:54 PM
I see no one has stepped up to answer the serious questions. Meanwhile the thread has taken an all too common turn....:doubt:
Monga
08-10-2006, 10:13 PM
65fwkw ---> 200+fwkw is huge gains when I see dynos and over 5,000kms travelled ill be satisfied. Goodluck with the project rpw have tried to make successful 4 cylinder magnas become boosted and work but lead to major problems.
3.5litre engine is much better and if I was to turbo a magna again I would be using that engine if you start of with low power you will gain average power, start with ok power you will produce decent power.
50% gain on 150kw is going to be much more than 50% on 100kw.
But its different and awesome and I hope it works out I'd rip out that engine and drop in a 4g63
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