well it finally happened. our cittris's little inocent VRX is not a virgin anymore. she got ripped open and now its supercharged. it sounds so freaking crazy. sounds like a plane taking off when it goes screaming past you lol well here is a vid of it on the dyno. as you can here from our voices and cittris pacing up and down on the phone we all got pretty excited lol

P.S my super car my super car :bowrofl:

i have more vids but will post later

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxhW7DSVc1c

enjoy :D

So what did it pull on the dyno?

he got 230KW at the fly

i think

congrats!

i think i heard "missing 50kW's, dude, thats at the wheels"

so i'll take a stab at it making 190 atw?

he got 230KW at the fly

damn too quick for me.... my guess was pretty close though!

when they did the dyno my fuel pump was stuffed. it wasnt pumping enough fuel when peaking boost

atm im getting 148.9kw atw but with further exhaust and breathing mods hope to up it

atm im getting 148.9kw atw but with further exhaust and breathing mods hope to up it


so you got it dyno'd after fixing the fuel pump to get the 230 at the fly figure?

coz seriously, many stock-ish 3.5's are making 130ish at the wheels, hopefully the fuel pump bumps that number up a fair whack!

Grats cittrus!

Get that exhaust changed asap! You cant hear it!

Would be hoping for more with the fixed fuel pump and a 3" zorst. My car makes almost that much power. :confused:

Yeh dude congrats, that sounds awesome!!

:bowrofl:

The sound is incredible, hope you get some more power out it though???

That sounds wicked - would love to hear another sound clip off the dyno too.

Tell us more, what other mods were needed, costs, etc. (if that's okay of course)

Also, some engine bay pics ?

so you got it dyno'd after fixing the fuel pump to get the 230 at the fly figure?

coz seriously, many stock-ish 3.5's are making 130ish at the wheels, hopefully the fuel pump bumps that number up a fair whack!

My car made 114 atw stock

now i understand that this is not what everyone expected, even me.

HOWEVER my car is still going to get some work done on it.

I have discussed this with G&D and they seriously think that once i open up the air flow and get a PROPER tune i can easily expect 180+

so that involves extractors (not sure what brand i will going) hi-flow cat and a new ECU.

I have 3 dyno print outs that i will scan up tomorrow for all to see. They are Boost(PSI), AFR and Torque.

The S/C boosts at 7 psi and peaks at 9 psi.

The reason i say i need a re-tune (or G&D for that matter) is because my AFR (Air-Fuel Ratio) is all over the place due to the premade map just being loaded on there. I mean i looked at my exhaust tip this afternoon and noticed it was quite black.

Torque - Ask anyone who has been in or driven my car since there is defiantly a noticeable increase in torque. Don't qoute me but i believe i got an increase of about 120-150 nm of torque.

With regard to fuel usage. If my right foot is in the firewall all the time i can easily get it up to around 22L/100 however normal driving no booting it will sit around 14L/100 and if i boot it every now and then you can expect around 15.5-16L/100. Also you MUST put in 98 RON.

The coolest thing is the sound it is so unique. That sound it makes is amazing and really must be heard in person. I get a rush every time. Even though some n00b on chaple goes "OMG its turbo" lol stupid kids

IMO i think the Sprintex kit is great. It took 3 days all up due to the fuel pump. It has got a little bit of room for improvement and it is unique.

Obviously and ill freely admit this if you can or know someone who can tinker with the engine then you will be able to get more gains for less but for someone like me who does not have that and uses there car as a daily driver then i believe that this is a very good kit

IMO there are 3 main ways to get more power. Those obviously being N/A, Turbo and S/C

I think they are suited better for different people. For me i found that the S/C suited me better only because of the drive in a drive out.

If anyone has any more questions i will be more than happy to answer them.

Also i have to say this due to some people if you want to have a go at me or my S/C then you can go and get *** coz i really don't care what these people have to say. Sorry it just infuriates me and it hurts.

Regards

Tristian

Would be hoping for more with the fixed fuel pump and a 3" zorst. My car makes almost that much power. :confused:

Nah mate i only have 2.5"


That sounds wicked - would love to hear another sound clip off the dyno too.

Tell us more, what other mods were needed, costs, etc. (if that's okay of course)

Also, some engine bay pics ?

Thanks man.

The kit is made for a stock car however to get more gains out of it you need get full zorst, extractors hi flow cat and a replacement ECU and re-tune

All up it cost me $7600

I will get some more pics tommorrow provided the weather is good

P.S. Thanks guys.

Nah I'm saying hopefully you'll get more power with a 3" zorst. So by the time you get extractors + full zorst + cat + replacement ECU + tune you're lookin at roughly $11k-$12k? That sound about right?

Torque - Ask anyone who has been in or driven my car since there is defiantly a noticeable increase in torque. Don't qoute me but i believe i got an increase of about 120-150 nm of torque.
Well... I have driven it and i can tell you that it "pulls" with adolescent enthusiasm... Actually i was lost for words! And the noise it makes gives you a dry horn :bowrofl: Next thing is to change the exhaust Tris because it sounds like it is trying to take a dump through its undies! lol

Now ya need this sticker lol

My car made 114 atw stock

now i understand that this is not what everyone expected, even me.

HOWEVER my car is still going to get some work done on it.

I have discussed this with G&D and they seriously think that once i open up the air flow and get a PROPER tune i can easily expect 180+

so that involves extractors (not sure what brand i will going) hi-flow cat and a new ECU.

I have 3 dyno print outs that i will scan up tomorrow for all to see. They are Boost(PSI), AFR and Torque.

The S/C boosts at 7 psi and peaks at 9 psi.

The reason i say i need a re-tune (or G&D for that matter) is because my AFR (Air-Fuel Ratio) is all over the place due to the premade map just being loaded on there. I mean i looked at my exhaust tip this afternoon and noticed it was quite black.

Torque - Ask anyone who has been in or driven my car since there is defiantly a noticeable increase in torque. Don't qoute me but i believe i got an increase of about 120-150 nm of torque.

With regard to fuel usage. If my right foot is in the firewall all the time i can easily get it up to around 22L/100 however normal driving no booting it will sit around 14L/100 and if i boot it every now and then you can expect around 15.5-16L/100. Also you MUST put in 98 RON.

The coolest thing is the sound it is so unique. That sound it makes is amazing and really must be heard in person. I get a rush every time. Even though some n00b on chaple goes "OMG its turbo" lol stupid kids

IMO i think the Sprintex kit is great. It took 3 days all up due to the fuel pump. It has got a little bit of room for improvement and it is unique.

Obviously and ill freely admit this if you can or know someone who can tinker with the engine then you will be able to get more gains for less but for someone like me who does not have that and uses there car as a daily driver then i believe that this is a very good kit

IMO there are 3 main ways to get more power. Those obviously being N/A, Turbo and S/C

I think they are suited better for different people. For me i found that the S/C suited me better only because of the drive in a drive out.

If anyone has any more questions i will be more than happy to answer them.

Also i have to say this due to some people if you want to have a go at me or my S/C then you can go and get *** coz i really don't care what these people have to say. Sorry it just infuriates me and it hurts.

Regards

Tristian
Dude, i wouldn't worry about what people say or who is having a go. Fact is, you've done what alot of others keep saying they wanna do in the future, but never do it. Your magna will kick their magna's asses any day now. THey are just jealous and want to bag you or your car coz its quicker and more modded now. I say good on ya for actually doing it. It sounds great, and i would be that excited over the car as you guys were on the video clip. Hell, i would have humped the exhaust.. lol

But yeah, to get more gains, get exhaust and breathing done. Specially to a 2.5" or prefferably 3" exhaust with high flow cat and extractors. Should see some more gains there.

Again, congrats on the car. Enjoy it. I know I would

that sounds awesome man, I want to supercharge mine too (damn P-plater laws!) but then again it'll still take me all my plater years just to save that up lol. Anyway well done!

Good work mate!

Cant wait to hear dis...

You've just been passed by AN Supercharger?

You've just been douched by incorrect grammar?

LOVE your S/C, Sounds sexy

You've just been douched by incorrect grammer?

I didn't know there was an e in grammar...

Congrats mate, and welcome to the world of boost. Unfortunately the biggest thing holding you back (power wise) is your auto transmission, but I'm confident that you will enjoy more power once you upgrade extractors, exhaust etc. And a retune of that ecu couldn't hurt. Can only certain places tune those things?? or are they pretty easy to tune?

Well done mate. :thumbsup:

Tip top. :D

oooooooooo that sounds really hot, real sxc noise

I didn't know there was an e in grammar...

just got owned by the groove train :P

Nah I'm saying hopefully you'll get more power with a 3" zorst. So by the time you get extractors + full zorst + cat + replacement ECU + tune you're lookin at roughly $11k-$12k? That sound about right?

The headers $400-600, cat 200-400, pipework 200-400 inc muff, this all depends on branding and size chosen. Rushing to 3" may not be such a good idea too. In an auto it will be a DRONE MONSTER. I sh!t you not. Been there, done that. The only thing 3" I'd consider would be the cat or even 3.5". Twin 2" system catback would be good on drone, near identical flow to 3" but with better low-mid torque.

Love to see some VERY detailed pics of the S/C inlet, plenum, TB arrangement, belt arrangement etc. :cool:

Love to see some VERY detailed pics of the S/C inlet, plenum, TB arrangement, belt arrangement etc. :cool:

Tell me exactly what you want and ill try and take them tommorrow. if you want pm it to me or post here whatevar

congrats Tris:P :D

That sounds awesome :D

Well done mate

And yes i am jelous :rant:

mate don't worry about peoples dyno's comparisons to yours. Dyno's are totally uncompareable unless checking self gains by doing befre/after runs.

Anyhow I'd love to give your car a run sometime :D I just need a piggyback back in the car. Unichips dont wanna work in my car anymore :(

ey wtchme come to heathcote with us and you can give him as many run as you want :P

lol happy to run at calder but i'll pass on heathcote :) Don't know about others but i don't get much grip at heathcote.

Hopefully have this piggyback issue fixed this week. Though my cars off the road as of next week. something new :)

why not heathcote? you get more runs man

lol mate if you cant get your quickest time within 3-4 runs you're not gona get any quicker on the night without changing anything.

Whenever I go calder i'm done within an hour of when dragging starts. Thats way before it gets busy.

Anyhow I get no grip at heathcote off launch. Maybe it was just an off day but my 60ft times were .2-.3 seconds slower than any other time ive posted at calder.

lol fair enough. i wanna see your car run. but its fun going over and over and over again lol

lol i'm not the type to do too many runs. I get to apoint after 3-4 runs where i'm just not any quicker. Prefer to save tyres and avoid braking anything. Don't have racv roadside to get towed home lol

Mate that video is fantastic, I am very jealous :D

nice mate,

nearly went down this road, but worked out in the end it is too much money for not a huge amount if power gain...(also I didn't have the money) then again that goes for everything you do to a magna/verada.
But if your gonna start hitting 180ATW it will be all worth while.

Definately not bashing your setup as I love that sound and I am kind of regreting not going ahead with it but maybe one day down the track I will fund another car into some kind of PSI

Anyway I can't wait to hear this thing in the flesh! :D

:thumbsup:

BTW, sorry if i missed this in another post but what kind of torque increase did you get?

if you want to have a go at me or my S/C then you can go and get *** coz i really don't care what these people have to say. Sorry it just infuriates me and it hurts.

Regards

Tristian

:clap:

Well said Tristian.

As you said yourself it was a dissapointing result in regards to your KW..

BUT as 150nM of torque increase is friggin huuuuuuuuuuge! Id be more happy about the torque increase than see 250kw's or whatever..

My Dyno graphs

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2507/dyno1ae7.th.jpg (http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dyno1ae7.jpg) http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/7782/dynopsimu8.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dynopsimu8.jpg) http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2184/dynotorquedt4.th.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dynotorquedt4.jpg)

My Dyno graphs

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2507/dyno1ae7.th.jpg (http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dyno1ae7.jpg) http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/7782/dynopsimu8.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dynopsimu8.jpg) http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2184/dynotorquedt4.th.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dynotorquedt4.jpg)

wow, very smooth

That's a big difference in tractive effort. And a huge gain in peak power. Drivability would be excellent, and power delivery would probably give me a boner. Congrats man.

Congrats mate, and welcome to the world of boost. Can only certain places tune those things?? or are they pretty easy to tune?

Thanks man. Yes, the software is not freely available. If a re-tune is required with Sprintex input, Sprintex will create the map and send it to G&D and then G&D put it on.

Down the track i will be replacing the whole ECU with the help of G&D


BTW, sorry if i missed this in another post but what kind of torque increase did you get?

I believe it was around 130nM


:clap:

Well said Tristian.

As you said yourself it was a dissapointing result in regards to your KW..

BUT as 150nM of torque increase is friggin huuuuuuuuuuge! Id be more happy about the torque increase than see 250kw's or whatever..

Thanks Bain


That's a big difference in tractive effort. And a huge gain in peak power. Drivability would be excellent, and power delivery would probably give me a boner. Congrats man.

Believe it or not traction isn't that much of a problem. In the wet its *** but otherwise its alright.

yummm.....thatd b awesome to drive!

Congrats man, hopefully soon i can see this beast in real life :) By then maybe it will be all properly tuned :)

yummm.....thatd b awesome to drive!

Congrats man, hopefully soon i can see this beast in real life :) By then maybe it will be all properly tuned :)

Come to Heathcote on sunday and ill show ya.

speaking of tuned this is the email from Steve from Sprintex.


Hi Tristian

The tune that was entered into your car was a little rich by design because of the issues with your fuel pump.

Now that that has been resolved we can send to G&D Performance an updated tune to be installed.

Will advise as soon as this is done so that you can make arrangements with G&D performance to get your car booked in.

:gtfo: THATS SICK! nice work! sounds so hawt!
now you need to get a sticker made up for your rear windscreen saying "GOT TRACTION?"
lol
top work man
cheers,
Tristan

Mate, that's impressive. Dont listen to the nay sayers. You did what you wanted to do, and now it hauls over other most magnas. Enjoy it!

Interesting - like the dyno charts, I cant wait the (2 months) till mine gets done...

What did the extra $300 do - (in installation) - was this the fuel pump?

Cheers
Heath Young

Tell me exactly what you want and ill try and take them tommorrow. if you want pm it to me or post here whatevar

Just go nuts with the camera and we'll see what shows up. Got the install paperwork :D ??

Interesting - like the dyno charts, I cant wait the (2 months) till mine gets done...

What did the extra $300 do - (in installation) - was this the fuel pump?

Cheers
Heath Young

Yes that was the fuel pump and i need a tranny service

One thing also i noticed, ignition retarding when i change gears.

So cittris, what type of gains do you think you will have over your last Q/Mile time??

will be good to see the increase even though you still have some tuning to do etc!!
sunday should be awesome!!

So cittris, what type of gains do you think you will have over your last Q/Mile time??

will be good to see the increase even though you still have some tuning to do etc!!
sunday should be awesome!!

I am hoping for a mid 14 now

hopefully break 13's when it is all done


Just go nuts with the camera and we'll see what shows up. Got the install paperwork :D ??

What do you mean by "install paperwork"

I am hoping for a mid 14 now

hopefully break 13's when it is all done



What do you mean by "install paperwork"

You should see a 14.3 mate.

I think he means list of parts installed :)

Believe it or not traction isn't that much of a problem. In the wet its *** but otherwise its alright.
Hehe. "Tractive effort" refers to the last dyno graph you posted with the lines that run across the page. The red one is your old tractive effort, the blue one is new. This indicates (to the best of my knowledge anyway) torque through the effort of the tyres to spin on the dyno, meaning you have a butload more torque now. Hope that clears it up a bit, maybe someone with more knowledge on the subject can help, but good luck at the drags man!

Congrats on the install mate!

Don't be disheartened with initial output figure... I know people say you are limited once you slam a Sprintex S/C on your car, but I reckon there's still a bunch of mods you could do. Larger intake manifold (if there would be room...), port and polish, even simple stuff like a CAI and exhaust change, and I reckon you'll see some much nicer output figures.

But like Bain said... ****, who cares about peak power! Look at the torque! Thats freakin unreaL!

...of course a manual conversion would probably see a substantial gain... although I think it would be quite a bit harder to do the conversion with the S/C on? Because of the oil cooler?

Congrats on the install mate!

Don't be disheartened with initial output figure... I know people say you are limited once you slam a Sprintex S/C on your car, but I reckon there's still a bunch of mods you could do. Larger intake manifold (if there would be room...), port and polish, even simple stuff like a CAI and exhaust change, and I reckon you'll see some much nicer output figures.

But like Bain said... ****, who cares about peak power! Look at the torque! Thats freakin unreaL!

...of course a manual conversion would probably see a substantial gain... although I think it would be quite a bit harder to do the conversion with the S/C on? Because of the oil cooler?

:bowrofl: Um.. how??

have you seen the actual kit itself?

Haha thats why I said if there would be room... it would be nice if the kit could be adjusted to fit a larger manifold in... seeing as bolting a larger manifold onto NA engines makes a helluva difference (aka EZ Boys car...).

Congrats on the install mate, who cares about specific HP figures, as long as your happy with it and enjoy it. Thats all that matters.

Awesome video and sounds great. Well done and dont be too disheartened by dyno figures. You know yourself how it feels. It looks like a nice linear power delivery with heaps of torque which will mean an enjoyable very drivable car on the street with a lot of extra stick.
Just enjoy it..

Haha thats why I said if there would be room... it would be nice if the kit could be adjusted to fit a larger manifold in... seeing as bolting a larger manifold onto NA engines makes a helluva difference (aka EZ Boys car...).

The mainfold is integral to the supercharger. It doesnt use the stock runners and it would not be a limiting factor anyway.

The mainfold is integral to the supercharger. It doesnt use the stock runners and it would not be a limiting factor anyway.

Oh okay, I was under the impression the stock runners were used... well a new manifold would be silly then. And impossible.

:bowrofl:

Looks like this:

Whoah!!!! that looks freaky!!!

I see what you mean about the AFR being all over the place :shock: .

I know boosted applications require a slighly richer mix to help keep it safe, but there is a huge difference between those two lines on that first dyno printout you posted.

I get the impression you have been talking to G&D about ditching the Sprintex ECU in favour of something more readily tunable. Good idea - don't want to be relying on AAC to send you a revised tune from half way across the country every time you do a mod to your car. Not to mention the fact that you will always get a better tune from something that is "live" tuned on your car, than something that is just a few adjustments to a basic fuel map based on how your car might behave.

I see what you mean about the AFR being all over the place :shock: .

I know boosted applications require a slighly richer mix to help keep it safe, but there is a huge difference between those two lines on that first dyno printout you posted.

I get the impression you have been talking to G&D about ditching the Sprintex ECU in favour of something more readily tunable. Good idea - don't want to be relying on AAC to send you a revised tune from half way across the country every time you do a mod to your car. Not to mention the fact that you will always get a better tune from something that is "live" tuned on your car, than something that is just a few adjustments to a basic fuel map based on how your car might behave.

O yer don't worry. My exhaust tip if ***. lol


Just go nuts with the camera and we'll see what shows up. Got the install paperwork :D ??

Here is my miserable attempt to get some HQ pictures for ye.
34.93 MB
http://rapidshare.de/files/34603048/SCPics.rar

of those pics there is one of my entire engine bay. If anyone wants any pictures of close up stuff circle what you want and ill get out the camera.

I am hoping for a mid 14 now

hopefully break 13's when it is all done



What do you mean by "install paperwork"

Installtion guide, pics, diagrams, docos etc. :D

Installtion guide, pics, diagrams, docos etc. :D

sorry mate i don't any of that but check out my rapidshare link and as stated circle places in the engine bay and ill get close up shots of them for you

all i can say is HELL YEAH!! thats awesome!

all i can say is HELL YEAH!! thats awesome!


I 2nd that motion

it stuff like this that make me think, hmmmm, should i go with mainstream and grab myself a typical r34 gt-t, 180 or 200sx, type r, etc or should i get a ralliart /tj2 and put twin blowers in ( which is what i will do if i for some reason buy another magna, as my next car is a project)

it also sounds like a jet taking off, its king

wow.......

Yeah i would be real unhappy with the results.. Id be fixing the dramas quick smart..

Good work on the blower dude.. I envy you.. ill have a blower too late next year..:P Not sprintex though..:P

Well done bloke. Good to see you're a doer not a talker.

The whole proprietory tuning thing is a bit of a pain in the arze with Sprintex. My tune is basically a map they flashed over from a Ralliart auto they tuned a couple of weeks earlier. Mine's a manual. They then spent about 45 minutes road tuning it. When I had a dyno run done in Canberra a week later (169kw ATW), it showed a few areas the tune could be improved. There's no one in Canberra that's allowed to do the tuning and I'm not driving 300km back to north Sydney to get it re-tuned at Tweakit. That said however, it's still stupendously quick. It actually feels quicker now than when I first had it done 15,000km ago. Maybe I've blown the internals out of the cat and mufflerlol

If I were having it done again, I get them to do the install with a non proprietory ECU such as a Haltech. They can keep their warranty as I'd trade that any day for tuneability.

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Well done bloke. Good to see you're a doer not a talker.

The whole proprietory tuning thing is a bit of a pain in the arze with Sprintex. My tune is basically a map they flashed over from a Ralliart auto they tuned a couple of weeks earlier. Mine's a manual. They then spent about 45 minutes road tuning it. When I had a dyno run done in Canberra a week later (169kw ATW), it showed a few areas the tune could be improved. There's no one in Canberra that's allowed to do the tuning and I'm not driving 300km back to north Sydney to get it re-tuned at Tweakit. That said however, it's still stupendously quick. It actually feels quicker now than when I first had it done 15,000km ago. Maybe I've blown the internals out of the cat and mufflerlol

If I were having it done again, I get them to do the install with a non proprietory ECU such as a Haltech. They can keep their warranty as I'd trade that any day for tuneability.

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Thanks and that is what i will be doing soon enough