Ok today is the day that my VRX gets it UNICHIP.
It will be intersting to see the difference on paper but more so in the drive-ability which is the big one.
I will the do some 1/4 miles to see what it does.
Will post results once done.
Geoff

I look forward to seeing the results. :badgrin:

[quote="revelstone2"]Ok today is the day that my VRX gets it UNICHIP.
It will be intersting to see the difference on paper but more so in the drive-ability which is the big one.
I will the do some 1/4 miles to see what it does.
Will post results once done.

Can't wait! Looking forward to you posting your results. I hope to see you crack the quarter in under 14.3 sec so you can chew on some Gen III fat.

You had me stumped... I spent at least a minute trying to figure out what a INUCHIP was before I dared click on the topic :lol:

Hope it meets expectations for the couple of hundred they charge for it!

Hope it meets expectations for the couple of hundred they charge for it!
Couple of hundred? More like $1,200! :!:

[quote:0cd14122bf="RessurectoR"]Hope it meets expectations for the couple of hundred they charge for it!
Couple of hundred? More like $1,200! :!:[/quote:0cd14122bf]

:shock: In that case I'd want to be able to drive on the roof of a tunnel like in Men in Black :lol:

Super! Keep us posted Geoff. Any idea when it's due?

Don't forget to post yer chart
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4233

I should be able to post the results tonight if i get time

Cant wait to see the results u get... My old man has a TH Sports auto with similar mods to you (exhaust, extractors, unichip, and filter come christmas. Could compare the power gains. Where are you gettin it done at mate?

Daz

cool, i'm wanting to put a unichip on mine too! tell us how it goes!

Could compare the power gains.

Have you got a dyno graph? If so, feel like posting it in the Members Lounge in the sticky thread.

The car is ready, just need to go down and get it.
I have had it installed by Motsons at Salisbury.(sorry Coopers plains)depends which side of the road you are on.
Will be able to tell you the gains shortly. and postr it tonight.

[quote:da2d81cd57="DaBigMan2"]Could compare the power gains.

Have you got a dyno graph? If so, feel like posting it in the Members Lounge in the sticky thread.[/quote:da2d81cd57]

Yeah, the old man's got a graph, i'll look for it n post it up

Daz

OK boys results posted in members lounge.
Believe me the difference is fantatic.
After driving a Ralliart again at work the other day I know i would take an auto one of them. Look out commodores here it comes.
My wife can't wait to get in it and leave them and the Falcons behind...

revelstone: I was wondering.. My uncles shop is in Coopers Plains.. so its all Coopers to me. BTW Did it do anything for your low down torque?

SuFz :evil:

go to memers lounge and have a look at the graph .
You can feel the power difference all the way

Okay, I'm posting this without seeing the post so sounds promising.


Tidy! Any chance you can list your other mods? I bet that has improved it's drivability somewhat.

Now all you need to do is take it down the strip! :badgrin:

When is the next trip to the strip?
I am now expecting 15.1 or better?

Dunno, KKT81 and Sikmitz went Wednesday just gone. I reckon in the new year. Maybe end of January, early Feb. I should hopefully have had a few more mods installed by then and till be keen to test. You shall be left in the loop.

i have looked at the dyno graph, but what was the exact kW atw figure you got?

I think they said 112kw

i hope they were kidding!!! :shock:

is that all???

havnt we seen some of our other members getting like 115 to 120kw?? in stock form!?

every dyno is different

u pay so much so something that cant be completely accurate, its gay

Well it's accurate on the day and the time that it's done.

But a different day, with different weather will yeild different results.

It's not the dyno's fault.

It's the car, the engine, the components.

There are so many environmental variables to consider that you cant justify saying "it's gay" (which is really immature by the way). You have to realise these variations and accept them, it's the nature of the beast. There's nothing you can do about it.

They are pretty accurate, but they all will read differently for reasons stated above.

If you dont like the idea of dyno testing..then dont do it...easy.

they only thing that you can work out on a dyno is that your car is running more power. Each dyno is different on each day so its impossible to compare cars. The best way to compare cars is down the quater mile.

Well it's accurate on the day and the time that it's done.

But a different day, with different weather will yeild different results.

It's not the dyno's fault.

It's the car, the engine, the components.

There are so many environmental variables to consider that you cant justify saying "it's gay" (which is really immature by the way). You have to realise these variations and accept them, it's the nature of the beast. There's nothing you can do about it.

They are pretty accurate, but they all will read differently for reasons stated above.

If you dont like the idea of dyno testing..then dont do it...easy.

To Add to KB, Everyone Dyno at the ame place will be the best.. Like I've said in the past, every car is different, other factors u need to also consider is how good the tuner can pull on the unichip and the car.. another factor is sometimes, NOT SAYING YOUR TUNER.. A tuner can recalibrate the dyno to read differently thus showing a higher output.. just to make the customer happy..

As for your case, it's prolly set to a conservative setting.. which is good in some case..

Tired.. BEDTIME..

nite nite
Cheers

I can tell you it feels a lot better. It has alwats been quicker than the cdores and falcons and the early SS.
It will be going down the 1/4 as soon as possible. So that should fix that.
I will post the time slpi when it has been done.

[quote:8e7697f495]There are so many environmental variables to consider that you cant justify saying "it's gay" (which is really immature by the way). You have to realise these variations and accept them, it's the nature of the beast. There's nothing you can do about it.[/quote:8e7697f495]

and thats why its "gay", sorrry KB i will re-word my posts so they dont seem immature just for you buddy, you arent here to comment on my maturity level...

[quote:b088dc0b66]There are so many environmental variables to consider that you cant justify saying "it's gay" (which is really immature by the way). You have to realise these variations and accept them, it's the nature of the beast. There's nothing you can do about it.

and thats why its "gay", sorrry KB i will re-word my posts so they dont seem immature just for you buddy, you arent here to comment on my maturity level...[/quote:b088dc0b66]

mmmm i actually agree with this - get off your pedestal

hey revelstone
is the UNICHIP working as a piggy back ECU or a whole new UNICHIP ECU?

nice work

hey revelstone
is the UNICHIP working as a piggy back ECU or a whole new UNICHIP ECU?

nice work

Dude it's a piggy back, in short the unichip "makes" the car think it should run that way and create that sort of power... something like overclocking a computer...

CHEERS

something like overclocking a computer...

CHEERS

whiches raises the question.... is it as safe? cos overclocking a computer can have some nasty outcomes

only cause it makes it hotter, thats why you buy big fans or watercooling ;)

unless its not tuned properly it shouldnt havent probs

[quote:08250c63db="MagnaV6Sports13"] something like overclocking a computer...

CHEERS

whiches raises the question.... is it as safe? cos overclocking a computer can have some nasty outcomes[/quote:08250c63db]


Yup Ben, couldn't agree more! Overclocking is "SAFE" only if done correctly and conservatively... some tuners in the market like to push it because the owners want more "OOOOMPH" in their rides...

haha. i remember once, when i had my first ever "super computer"
i bought all the bits in the states when i was on holiday's.. the parts wernt even avail here in Oz

it was like a 1.6ghz AMD Athlon.. it was like the god of CPU's in its day, and yer, after about 3 months, it started to "lag" so i though id bump up the FSB.. wooot baby!! ahahha. i managed to get 2.13 before i fried the CPU, Motherboard and my GPU.. cos i wanted faster graphics too :lol: :lol:

damn. that was a expensive exercise :lol:

Yup Ben, couldn't agree more! Overclocking is "SAFE" only if done correctly and conservatively... some tuners in the market like to push it because the owners want more "OOOOMPH" in their rides...

Same with cars when it comes to advancing the timing. That's one thing that the Unichip uses to increase performance. Did they mention anything about only being able to use PULP now?

Forget about the outright figure. It's been hot here and the other fellas have mentioned the variables that can affect that figure. The final figure isn't what defines whether it's good or not. It's the gain across the rev range and how it affects drivability etc. I reckon 6-8kW at the wheels is respectible. Some have said that other's show say 120kW at the treads but I reckon that if you stuck his car next to mine down the strip, his will carve me for sure. Can't wait for your run Rev.

With tuning, I know that our cars, (excl. Booya, cause he's special :p), uses a MAF, does that mean that the gains we see if tuned on a cold day are still pretty similar when hooning around on a very hot day?

ok you guys are right.
Maybe a nother dyno day for the Brisbane cars will sort all this out.
The torque difference is the more impressive gain thatn the kw as that is the one that is more important for every day driving.
Redav cant wait to give you a run.
They did tell me tuned at 30 deg with 50% humidity so a cool night or day and it will be better
Car was tuned on pulp. I use that all the time any way, as I have a work fuel card. 100% optimax

Redav cant wait to give you a run.

Hahaha... I'm not challenging ya. Sure, I'll go down the strip with ya but them's not fighting words. :lol:

I find it amusing that a couple of comments over the past few months lead me to believe my cars being used as a benchmark for some strange reason. It's only a 3.0l engine. I'm the one who's supposed to have the inferiority complex. :lol:

ok you guys are right.
Maybe aniher dyno day for the Brisbane cars will sort all this out.
The torque difference is the more impressive gain thatn the kw as that is the one that is more important for every day driving.
...

As a VR-X driver .. I am interested to know what your fuel econ is now? What is it when you just cruise around? are you using a lot more fuel, or much the same as before you chipped it? :)

Everyone needs to use a 'Dyno Dynamics' in 'Shootout mode' as that takes into consideration the weather, humidity and so fourth therefore making all dyno's across australia consistent (Well, it's meant to).

Canberra VRX,
Can't answer the fuel economy question yet.
I has just been hacking thrugh Brisbane traffic all week. Being given a bit more of a thrashing that normal.
It will be going for a hiway cruise on Christmas day.
If you think a VRX is good as standard you should try it now.
Geoff

We specified that it wasn't to be in shoot out mode for our dyno day.

Hmmmm - mine is a 3 L pot too, but I have the headers, njahnjahnjah. ;) Temp makes a helluve diff in power output. I have some figures from turbo Calibra, but they're at my office mail box, not home. Something like 1/2 kW per degree of Celcius (?). So, 10 deg is a lot..... scary crap!
Actually - Redav. March is approaching. And Killer Mobile heads North every March.... any 400m long strips in your hood????? 8)



I find it amusing that a couple of comments over the past few months lead me to believe my cars being used as a benchmark for some strange reason. It's only a 3.0l engine. I'm the one who's supposed to have the inferiority complex. :lol:

Hmmmm - mine is a 3 L pot too, but I have the headers, njahnjahnjah. ;)

You'll keep :p


Temp makes a helluve diff in power output. I have some figures from turbo Calibra, but they're at my office mail box, not home. Something like 1/2 kW per degree of Celcius (?). So, 10 deg is a lot..... scary crap!

Would be interested to see them. I thought that temp would affect turbo cars more. It was explained to me that air that is 20 degrees isn't twice as hot as 10 degrees. Thermal energy is measured from absolute 0, 0 degrees Kelvin or -273 degrees celcius. Obviously air that's 10 degrees hotter is going to have oxygen particals that are further apart than it's colder sample. But, when 10 degrees is close to only 3% difference Kelvin wise, I have no idea if some of these claims, (either way), are right.


Actually - Redav. March is approaching. And Killer Mobile heads North every March.... any 400m long strips in your hood????? 8)

Sure is. Willowbank at Queensland Raceway. They do test and tune nights usually twice a month on Wednesdays. If you can time it for one of those sessions then I'm sure we could get a few of us together to compare times.

True what you say about air temp not being linear. Figures I have are 0.7 hp per degree of Celcius at max power revs (6000- 7000?) and in the usual 20 deg ambient temp. And as said, these are turbo figures on a 2 l Cali with well over 200 kW - if I remember correctly.

The effect on our cars could be half of that? What I have seen on these Dyno tests, they seem to vary a lot even when done to same car back to back. So small differences are almost impossible to detect.

Real race track???? No back streets at all.....?? :cry:

Canberra VRX
the fuel economy on the VRX seems a little bit better than it was before.
In the Brisbane trafic it is getting 13.4L as average fuel.
So I am happy with that.
It does go heaps better than before.

Canberra VRX
the fuel economy on the VRX seems a little bit better than it was before.
In the Brisbane trafic it is getting 13.4L as average fuel.
So I am happy with that.
It does go heaps better than before.

Thanks Revelstone.. sounds good.

1. How much did this cost?

2. Are you getting more torque at lower revs.. ie, does it 'pull' better from lower down? I find the stock VR-X a bit slow from low revs.. the power only kicks in around 2900 to 3300... ;)

by the way.. I get 12.2 around town on average.. but Canberra traffic is more free flowing than Bris. ;) I can get 9.0 to 9.3 on the highway, cruising at 110 on freeway. (incidentally, my TH 3.5 advance auto got 1.0 to 1.5 l/100 better than the VR-X).

Canberra VRX
Chip and fitting was $1000 all up
Talk is better from down low. but as you said the VRX comes good from 3000rpm
If you ever drove a Ralliart Magna this feels better again than one of them.
I would recomend it. Make sure you put extractors on as well

Hey, Revelstone2. How's the car going and how's the economy going? Have you taken it to the drags yet? Did they give you an APS or Unichip badge to put on the back of the car? If so, did you put it on?

Im also keen to hear of the ongoing driving experience.

Im waiting for the HM Headers to come out - a UNICHIP is on the cards.

Tell me what was the Peak kw differance after it was tuned?

Cheers
Rob

ok the car is definitely more economical, it is going for a cruise on the highway on monday so will let you know what that is like.
To be honest I have hardly driven it since it has been fitted, my wife drives it evey day and I have my work car.
Power difference see the members lounge for the dyno graph, feels better than it looks.
No i did not get a sticker and no I would not put it on.
The drags have not made it yet due to weather up here but I will get there soon
Geoff

Canberra VRX
Chip and fitting was $1000 all up


revelstone,
The quote that I am getting is $1250 fitted. Do you know something that we do not or does the "family business" allow you a discount.

Here at CramerDP (the quote I got - cause they have a 4WD dyno) it is install+dyno+tuning, is that what you got and where may we attempt to get such a nice discount or is that anti-competitive for the forum.

I got it cheap off the forum a couple of months ago and got it fitted in december.
Let me make some calls on Tesday and i will post a result

CNJ Motorsport quoted me $1200 for install and tune.