Can a manual vrx outrun an auto ralliart?

What were the mods on the ralliart to get the extra 17kws??

lol this thread gonna be one of those controversial threads haha

from personal experience a manual vrx can go a auto or manual ralliart or vicer verser.

to be honest, ive never noticed a real significantdifference in power with any 3.5L model magna with near stock specs..

ralliarts probably have a bit more punch and at higher speeds pull slightly harder but yeah... all 3.5l's are so closesly matched it would come down to driver skill i think

As said, depends on driver skill. On paper they are pretty even with the extra power of the ralliart negated somewhat by the extra weight over the VRX. Stock for stock I'd say there'd be stuff all in it, maybe like 0.5-0.8 of a second over the quarter mile. Manual Ralliart is pretty much the same story, probably 0.2-0.5 seconds quicker over the quarter than a manual VRX.

Mods were higher lift cams, an ECU edit, different headers and a different exhaust.

i would be interested to see what a ralliart with no kit , no excess stereo etc run against a TH 3.5L exec

i think then the power of the ralliart would be apparent

i would be interested to see what a ralliart with no kit , no excess stereo etc run against a TH 3.5L exec

i think then the power of the ralliart would be apparent
That's an interesting point, because I wonder how much the ralliart wing weighs?

But if you gut a ralliart of what makes it a ralliart.

You really only have a fast executive :P

But if you gut a ralliart of what makes it a ralliart.

You really only have a fast executive :P

depends what u brought it for,

if u brought it for performance then it would be interesting, but if u brought it for the kit and stereo system plus the prestige then yeah it would make u cry hahaha

depends what u brought it for,

if u brought it for performance then it would be interesting, but if u brought it for the kit and stereo system plus the prestige then yeah it would make u cry hahaha
Yeh but i'm sure for the extra cost the ralliart would cost you could get an exec quicker....but ANYWAY lol no one buys a ralliart and complains about the kit, maybe the wing, but not the kit :).
As to the original post, it'd be damn close. What's an auto ralliart do over the quater stock?

Don't think there's any in the quarter mile registry. On paper Mitsubishi claim 15.12, but I think it'd be more like 15.3 or so.

Just on the "if you take away what a ralliart is" comment. It's much more than just a couple engine mods... You gotta remember there's the brakes, the tyres, the rims, the bucket seats, the trim, the suspension... there's a lot different.

Anyway, that's way off topic.

Don't forget higher compression with flat top pistons (9.4:1, up from 9.0:1 for the stock 3.5L), plus a Limited Slip Diff.

New LSD from Mitsu = $1800.00 :shock: And there are none in the country.

Your only option would be a Cusco or Quaiffe, at around the same price + fitting.

Don't think there's any in the quarter mile registry. On paper Mitsubishi claim 15.12, but I think it'd be more like 15.3 or so.
Well in that case it'd be pretty neck and neck as a stock manual vrx does a high 14 low 15.
So then would totally depend on driver skill.

to be honest, ive never noticed a real significantdifference in power with any 3.5L model magna with near stock specs..

Yeah same TH to TW no difference to me

My stock KE (147kW) auto kept up with a tippy TJ Sports (163kW).

Now with the mods it beats it, even with one less gear. So pretty much all the 3.5's are the same **** really. **** all difference.

Can a manual vrx outrun an auto ralliart?
Possibly


What were the mods on the ralliart to get the extra 17kws??
Heads, ECU, extractors, pistons

Possibly


Heads, ECU, extractors, pistons



Thanks redav for answering my question

Thanks redav for answering my question
No worries. Add an adjusted air metre to that list. Non power related mods are valve springs, LSD, steering rack, brakes, interior / exterior stuff.

[QUOTE=adcha1]Can a manual vrx outrun an auto ralliart?

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I think the difference between the cars was about one second.

Just some facts:
From memory, the manual ralliart does 0-100 in 6.66s and 0-400m in 14.8s, and 0-100 in 7.8s when starting from second gear and staying in that gear. The auto ralliart does 0-100
in 7.2s and 0-400m in 15.1s.

The auto ralliart does 0-100
in 7.2s and 0-400m in 15.1s.And we all know that autoweb got a 0-100 in 7.01 in a manual S1 VRX.

What about a manual sports - providing that the 16 inchers in stock form with 215/60R16 live up to the grip provided by 225/55R17s, with 30kg less than the vrx thanks to being naked, should even be a little faster.

Best thing to do is look at the registary, Stacky with his TJ sports with extractors ad 245/17's gets 14.6's. It all comes down to how fast you can get off the line, I've learnt how to start my car off quickly and flat shift down the track, so does Stacky me thinks. And I've dont a 14.5 in my TL VRX.

The only reason I'd get a ralliart is for the LSD personally.

Best thing to do is look at the registary, Stacky with his TJ sports with extractors ad 245/17's gets 14.6's. It all comes down to how fast you can get off the line, I've learnt how to start my car off quickly and flat shift down the track, so does Stacky me thinks. And I've dont a 14.5 in my TL VRX.

The only reason I'd get a ralliart is for the LSD personally.
you and your 14.5!!!!:rant: haha:D but yea manual vrx def quicker than auto ralliart

A Manual VRX should outrun an auto Ralliart. I got a 14.79 at the drags with a pretty much stock vrx (only have k&n panel plus second muffler with standard piping)
I can't see an Auto Stock Ralliart netting mid 14's, you loose to much power threw the box

A Manual VRX should outrun an auto Ralliart. I got a 14.79 at the drags with a pretty much stock vrx (only have k&n panel plus second muffler with standard piping)
I can't see an Auto Stock Ralliart netting mid 14's, you loose to much power threw the box
Would still be close though, the 5 spd auto makes abit of ground where the 4spd lacks.

A stock manual VRX should always be able to beat a stock auto Ralliart - but probably only just.

Both would be low 7's to 100kmh and low 15's to 400m. It would come down to the drivers, a good or bad launch and the individual engines (eg. a "fit" auto Ralliart will probably beat a run-of-the-mill engined manual VRX - just the luck of the draw from the factory).

Not quite sure about the logic of comparing a manual versus an auto anyway though?

Not quite sure about the logic of comparing a manual versus an auto anyway though?


Hes trying to work out if the extra power in the Ralliart can make up for the loss through the Auto.