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rvrolla
05-10-2006, 10:41 AM
Hi all,

First time Magna owner here! :D

I have heard the 3.5ltr like to burn oil. what type and brand oil is recommened in these? I plan on doing front 3 plugs, oil, oil filter and air filter.

Thanks in advance for your input! :)

Dan
2000 TH Advance Wagon

Bain
05-10-2006, 10:47 AM
I have heard the 3.5ltr like to burn oil.


No...

Wherever you heard that is obviously from someone who doesnt have the feintest idea about 3rd gen magna's...

M4DDOG
05-10-2006, 10:59 AM
haha i'm with bain on that one, wouldn't burn any more oil than your common falcon/commodore etc. engine.
As for servicing, 180,000 would be getting close to replacing the rear bank of plugs wouldn't it?

PUFF_DOGG
05-10-2006, 11:07 AM
a good car always burns a lil bit of oil.

rvrolla
05-10-2006, 11:41 AM
Cheers.

Oil burning comment aside, I would have thought they would have had the rear bank done @ 100,000km service?

What oil do you guys use, 10,15,20W?

Cheers,

M4DDOG
05-10-2006, 11:47 AM
Cheers.

Oil burning comment aside, I would have thought they would have had the rear bank done @ 100,000km service?

What oil do you guys use, 10,15,20W?

Cheers,
I'm not sure but it's either 90,000 or 100,000 service the plugs get done, some people get them done at 90,000, some at 105,000, might wanna just check to see when they were done last? If at 90k they'd be getting on.

alive
05-10-2006, 03:26 PM
Forget the oil burning, a juvenile response

At 180,000Km's

Do all plugs (not a big issue), put the same in front and back, not standard rubbish plugs.

Do all belts + timing, including tensioner roller bearings (amazing how quite it will be).

Servicing is about minimising. Minimising is about happy miles ... sorry kilometers.

For about $350 (ex labour) (do yourself ... slowly) the car will feel & sound
like new.

Hope this helps

johnmar
05-10-2006, 03:27 PM
15W - 50 Semi synthetic. I just use the Triple Diamond Oil from MML-BP Visco re-packaged. Another brand I would recommend is Penrite 15. Tip is to keep on the same brand of oil. Don't go changing brands it or you'll get problems. My Magna has 150 000 k on it and no problems with using MML oil and doing an oil change every 7,500 km

bitsofmystery
05-10-2006, 03:52 PM
i'm launching up to my 100000k service. what are the platinums worth for the back bank? was told you should just go all platinums and save the hassle. also someone told me to do the water pump while the timing belt was off. that a good idea. i know i'm posting questions all over the joint but you guys are pretty clued up on what's going on.

M4DDOG
05-10-2006, 04:51 PM
i'm launching up to my 100000k service. what are the platinums worth for the back bank? was told you should just go all platinums and save the hassle. also someone told me to do the water pump while the timing belt was off. that a good idea. i know i'm posting questions all over the joint but you guys are pretty clued up on what's going on.
platinums can be quite pricey, last time i checked the price were aroundt he $20-$30 mark each. But they do last 100,000kms (supposedly). You can go all platinums if you like, a few people have done that. Also yeh replacing the water pump will save on labour later down the track, some will argue it won't need doing, but better to be safe than sorry.

bitsofmystery
06-10-2006, 01:19 PM
platinums can be quite pricey, last time i checked the price were aroundt he $20-$30 mark each. But they do last 100,000kms (supposedly). You can go all platinums if you like, a few people have done that. Also yeh replacing the water pump will save on labour later down the track, some will argue it won't need doing, but better to be safe than sorry.


cheers man. think i will just go all out and save on labour down the road.pretty ordinary if are into and the water pump decides to pack it in.

rvrolla
06-10-2006, 01:25 PM
Just got parts thru a mate, six Iridiums, oil, filter and air filter set me back $134 :)

RuSSiaN
06-10-2006, 01:41 PM
Just got parts thru a mate, six Iridiums, oil, filter and air filter set me back $134 :)


nice, good work

bitsofmystery
06-10-2006, 01:47 PM
Just got parts thru a mate, six Iridiums, oil, filter and air filter set me back $134 :)


where did you get that from? i have to do the sheduled servicing thing for the warranty so i pretty much wanna get all my own stuff and have them do the labour and the stamping is all. warranty sucks right up until i blow my gearbox or something like that....then i think i'll like it a whole lot more.

Nemesis
06-10-2006, 01:53 PM
Be wary - the iridium plugs don't last as long as platinums or even normal ones. So you'll be changing them really often and swearing at how difficult it is to get the rear ones out.

rvrolla
06-10-2006, 03:00 PM
I thought the iridiums lasted longer as they have a dual burn to rid the excess carbon, hence lasting longer?!

EDIT:
Foudn this on the NGK website:

60,000 to 80,000 miles on an unaltered motor

How long will my Iridium spark plugs last?

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Satan
06-10-2006, 07:41 PM
This may be over but ive driven my car from 1605k-180k and I cannot notice 1 drop of engine oil missing each time I change the oil! no smoke, no problems!

rvrolla
07-10-2006, 04:05 AM
Thats great news then. I was sceptical about the comment, typically the said person drives a brown nosing BMW... "If it aint European, she's an oil burner mate"

bitsofmystery
07-10-2006, 08:29 AM
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: my bothers old beemer used to burn at least 3 litres a week. that thing was a piece of ****. had a sunroof that was big enough to fit 2 people out of though. was good for eggin people i am told.

Nemesis
07-10-2006, 05:11 PM
Alright that good then - Was just going by what a mate was telling me.

He has a 180SX - and in his experience the Iridiums didn't last as long. Let us know how yours go.

rvrolla
08-10-2006, 03:55 AM
Will do. Service all done, the rear three plugs weren't as bad as its talked up to be, just a little time consuming thats all. Changed all six with iridiums, Penrite 15W oil, new oil and air filter, four new discs and pads and had the auto serviced. The thing drives like bloody new now! Ready for her big trip up to QLD (from Central Coast NSW)

Thanks to all for your input!