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Te96
06-10-2006, 02:25 PM
Hey guys, first it was my rev's now it won't even start. Anyway, my car did not start today when I tried to get it out of my driveway. The starter motor kicks in pretty hard and the battery looks healthy to me. I don't know what the heck is wrong with it, sometimes it would start and run fine, but as soon as I switch off the ignition and attempt to switch it back on immediately the car just won't start! You can hear the starter motor kicking it pretty hard but it still doesn't want to run.
Im so screwed if this happens as I could get to one place and not return until the car magically turns on again.:confused:

I will try to give it an ECU reset, but I doubt this would fix the problem, and I don't think its an immobolizer problem because the starter motor kicks in but it refuses to run!.:doubt:
Cheers.

Matty_J
06-10-2006, 02:34 PM
have you checked everything like spark plugs etc??

M4DDOG
06-10-2006, 02:37 PM
Have you tried another battery or even jump starting? that will soon tell you if it's the battery or not.

Te96
06-10-2006, 03:10 PM
have you checked everything like spark plugs etc??

Spark plugs are new, but I did notice when I changed them the first time all 6 of them were covered in engine oil. I tried to clean up the slots by using something long and pointy with a cloth to dry up the inside, but the funny thing was that the cloth I pulled out didn't appear to be soaked with the oils.

It could be that its flooding inside my spark plugs again, if so, can I actually remove the seals and get new ones installed easily? Are there an FAQ around which shows me hpow to take things apart to reach those seals?
Cheers.

Te96
06-10-2006, 03:15 PM
Have you tried another battery or even jump starting? that will soon tell you if it's the battery or not.

Yeah, tried another battery. Seems to do the same... Starts whenever it feels like it. The starter motor kicking it really hard suggesting that my batteries quite healthy. The thing is the car does NOT stall when its started. Getting it to REV and to RUN is the problem. It just won't kick itself to idle even though the starter motor is knocking it hard.

Matty_J
06-10-2006, 03:20 PM
Yeah, tried another battery. Seems to do the same... Starts whenever it feels like it. The starter motor kicking it really hard suggesting that my batteries quite healthy. The thing is the car does NOT stall when its started. Getting it to REV and to RUN is the problem. It just won't kick itself to idle even though the starter motor is knocking it hard.

Before this started did you have unusual High idle problems??

BRE70Z
06-10-2006, 08:53 PM
is it the alternator?

Spinning
07-10-2006, 03:47 AM
The previous bozo who owned my car put in a 3rd party immobolizer to my car. Its weird it seems to cut off the fuel, because you can try and start it all you want, the starter motor will turn over and everything, but if the immobilizer isn't off you can forget about the car starting.

Te96
07-10-2006, 10:08 PM
Before this started did you have unusual High idle problems??

yeah, that was my previous problem- some of you guys out there suggest to lower the ICS so i did and it was good because the car did not idle high like 1800rpm on neutral similar to cold start.

But this is a new problem now, I have just been driving it around- it started normal again, I just got home from work, I had to stop the car (turn off) in the driveway to move my other cars with the key. As I come back to my magna and try to move it out of the driveway and into the garage... it won't start again... The starter motor still turning over...

Another thing i noticed-sometimes it starts by kicking the engine to run- but u will notice its not smooth at all( when the starter motor kicks over two times the motor is suppose to run, but in fact its all out of sequence, like its really choking to stay idle), after it DOES magically start from the choke i believe the ECU keeps revs stay at 1800rpm so it won't stall, however when this happens i hit my car in Reverse or Drive to move it around and the car stalls- that means gameover, it won't start if u try it right away.( just turning starter motor again)
Right now its outside my driveway- I just hope it will start maybe from cooling down abit. But I doubt that will fix anything.
Cheers.

Te96
07-10-2006, 10:13 PM
The previous bozo who owned my car put in a 3rd party immobolizer to my car. Its weird it seems to cut off the fuel, because you can try and start it all you want, the starter motor will turn over and everything, but if the immobilizer isn't off you can forget about the car starting.

Im sure I don't have a 3rd party immobolizer, and my car does start now and then. If it was an immobolizer problem (factory) how could I fix this? I know what you mean because if go get a keycut for the magna key, it won't allow you to start the car even though the starter motor is turning over.

Thats the exact experience Im having with the car except you can feel the car choking sometimes, when it successfully starts from that condition the rev's stay mad at 1800rpm (neutral)

Te96
07-10-2006, 10:16 PM
is it the alternator?

Alternator is certainly fine- Everything is charging up, I still have my audio system and all my gagdets hooked together playing all at once even if the car is turned off. The car will STILL start whenever it wants to but not when I want it to

Matty_J
08-10-2006, 06:27 AM
yeah, that was my previous problem- some of you guys out there suggest to lower the ICS so i did and it was good because the car did not idle high like 1800rpm on neutral similar to cold start.

But this is a new problem now, I have just been driving it around- it started normal again, I just got home from work, I had to stop the car (turn off) in the driveway to move my other cars with the key. As I come back to my magna and try to move it out of the driveway and into the garage... it won't start again... The starter motor still turning over...

Another thing i noticed-sometimes it starts by kicking the engine to run- but u will notice its not smooth at all( when the starter motor kicks over two times the motor is suppose to run, but in fact its all out of sequence, like its really choking to stay idle), after it DOES magically start from the choke i believe the ECU keeps revs stay at 1800rpm so it won't stall, however when this happens i hit my car in Reverse or Drive to move it around and the car stalls- that means gameover, it won't start if u try it right away.( just turning starter motor again)
Right now its outside my driveway- I just hope it will start maybe from cooling down abit. But I doubt that will fix anything.
Cheers.

lol mate, i have the exact same problem as you, although mine doesnt do it as often now as i have changed my air intake system over *but it wasnt my air intake :confused:

But yeh i have been having high idles and sometimes when starting it will stall and i have to wait untill it cools down before it starts!!! i have had a few mechs look at it and only came up with a few answers!! Did you ever notice the water light appearing or any coolant problems???

Te96
08-10-2006, 11:51 AM
lol mate, i have the exact same problem as you, although mine doesnt do it as often now as i have changed my air intake system over *but it wasnt my air intake :confused:

But yeh i have been having high idles and sometimes when starting it will stall and i have to wait untill it cools down before it starts!!! i have had a few mechs look at it and only came up with a few answers!! Did you ever notice the water light appearing or any coolant problems???

Hmm, I did bump into a cracked (just minor) radiator hose when I was checking for faults. But I've got that changed before anything screws me over. I've always kept a lookout at the temp gauge and coolant levels. Everything looks fine.

I feel sorry for my starter motor cause it does so much work trying to get the car to run!

benny_TE
08-10-2006, 03:41 PM
:cool: I had the same problem, it was my crank angle sensor. Quite common on TE's, so if i was you i would replace that asap !

later

ScottoMcgotto
02-04-2007, 04:30 AM
Hey TE96, are you still having this problem? I seem to be inflicted with the same issue. My mechanic (Shaun at Tires and more strathpine) first thought it was crank angle sensor but after having it in his shop for a day with not problems said it was immobilizer related. It's has been fine since for about 2 months and now has started doing it again. I have an after market Avital alarm fitted but I was just wondering if the crank angle sensor got it fixed for you.

Te96
03-04-2007, 08:42 AM
Hey TE96, are you still having this problem? I seem to be inflicted with the same issue. My mechanic (Shaun at Tires and more strathpine) first thought it was crank angle sensor but after having it in his shop for a day with not problems said it was immobilizer related. It's has been fine since for about 2 months and now has started doing it again. I have an after market Avital alarm fitted but I was just wondering if the crank angle sensor got it fixed for you.

Yo dude, Nah it wasn't something as big as the crank angle sensor. Thanks for your advice though. I've fixed the problem long time ago. I can conclude that the problem came from the immobolizer. There was nothing wrong on the naked eye, but I took it out anyway and tried to clean it up a bit. Also, when I start the car now I let it idle on "ON" until the engine light flicks away. I believe the magna starts roughly if you just ignite it instantly and will also cause very unstabe idle.

Thanks for your reply mate

wrexed03
03-04-2007, 05:21 PM
In the mornings does it start first kick always?? When hot does the not starting occur? Try pouring some cold water over your crank pulley. You may have a dodgy crank angle sensor. Sits behind the timming cover i beleive so it may be enough to cool it down to get it fired up again. Just taking a stab in the dark but may assist with your delema.

regards

MagTech
04-04-2007, 08:44 AM
Have you checked the throttle body? I'm just thinking that it has a lot of gunk in there that the butterfly is sticking.:redface: