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bLAdEbLA
12-10-2006, 12:05 AM
Hey,

I read that there are coilovers available for Magnga's from Hotbits

Just wondering:
Are they good?
How much do they lower the car by at full drop?
How is ride with them?
And cost?

97 Verada,
Will email them now too though

thw01f
12-10-2006, 12:43 AM
yes

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/search.php?query=coilovers&searchuser=&exactname=1&starteronly=0&forumchoice[]=0&childforums=1&titleonly=1&showposts=0&searchdate=0&beforeafter=after&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending&replyless=0&replylimit=0&searchthread=0&searchthreadid=0&saveprefs=0&quicksearch=0&searchtype=0&exclude=&

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41186

Black Beard
12-10-2006, 04:26 AM
Well since those links above don't really answer your questions, I'll give it a go:

Are they good?

I haven't heard any complaints from anyone who has them. However, a few members have experienced Quality control issues with some of the struts which has seen them have to return them to Hotbits in Victoria for full warranty rebuild. Although it's covered by warranty - it would be pretty inconvenient if you are interstate.

How much do they lower the car by at full drop?

There are two different flavours available, the "street" coilovers will drop the car lower than the "sport" version. The only car I know of with "street" coilovers is Stevsta's car (aka - Gremlins old car) which has the original "prototype" hotbits coilovers installed. When wound down all they way - the guards were sitting on the front wheels and the car was almost "on it's guts". My car has "sports" coilovers, and when we dropped it all the way there was probably about 1 inch of my 235/45/18 tyres up inside the rear guard, and enough room to get one finger between the front tyre tread and the top of the front wheel arch. Although I didn't - I probably could have driven the car like that, but you wouldn't want to for long periods.

How is ride with them?

I reckon it's pretty good, you can definetly feel what the road is doing under the car, and on old inner city streets it's a little uncomfortable - but on the whole it isn't unpleasant. Handling is fantastic. Can't speak for the "street" version.

And cost?

Okay, I lied - that is answered in one of the links above :redface: . Compare the price of coilovers to the price of Koni struts and king springs before you decide they are too expensive.

GoTRICE
12-10-2006, 06:12 AM
How is ride with them?

I reckon it's pretty good, you can definetly feel what the road is doing under the car, and on old inner city streets it's a little uncomfortable - but on the whole it isn't unpleasant. Handling is fantastic. Can't speak for the "street" version.



adding i've been in mikes car accelerating about 70-100 while cornering and i thought i was going to die, handling is fantasic. Not even one tire slid the tiniest bit while cornering that hard....

millert85
12-10-2006, 08:42 AM
i have a question...... are the struts in the coilovers re-buildable??? or is it a use once throw away affair

thw01f
12-10-2006, 03:02 PM
full warranty rebuild.

I've had the NSR rebuilt 3 times and the OSR ready for its 2nd :rant:

I can now remove rear seat, wheel and strut from the car, package it ready for post in <10min.

Black Beard
12-10-2006, 03:13 PM
I've had the NSR rebuilt 3 times and the OSR ready for its 2nd :rant:

I can now remove rear seat, wheel and strut from the car, package it ready for post in <10min.

F*** that - someone else PM'd me about this, and they'd had to return 3 of theirs, one twice. And the bill for labour to remove / reinstall and post was getting up to $500.

:doubt:

cthulhu5162
12-10-2006, 03:59 PM
if its any help at all i have tien coilovers installed on my soarer the handling is brilliant, its dumped on its **** now like black beards was by the sounds of it rear the tyres about an inch under the guard and i can fit my finger in the front

ride wise its rough and i can fel evry little rock i go over was cheap though i installed myself and bought them second hand from an importer

thw01f
12-10-2006, 04:00 PM
if i had to pay for labour................:headbange


but i quickly forget about it when i "try" to exceed the cornering limits :shock:

cthulhu5162
12-10-2006, 05:47 PM
yeh screw labour my mechanic quoted me the same price to replace a blown shocker as it did for me to get the coilovers and working in the automotive trade i know how much goes to labour way too much

97altera
12-10-2006, 06:43 PM
If you know how to use a spanner coilovers are easy to remove.

TheDifference
13-10-2006, 12:41 AM
if anyone needs to get theirs rebuilt under warranty, get hotbits to fit dust boots on them while theyre at it. cos thats apparently why they are failing.... as little bits of dust n dirt get caught in the seals and are tearing them.

to the op:
i love my coilovers. full koni adjustables from whiteline aint shyte on these coilovers. just ask wtchme!
best money i have ever spent on my car. expensive, but u get what u pay for

bLAdEbLA
13-10-2006, 04:09 PM
Are there any other brand coilovers available for these Magnas??

Called hotbits they said only Race/Sport is available now and the car is for show not performance

Thanks

Black Beard
13-10-2006, 04:46 PM
Are there any other brand coilovers available for these Magnas??

Called hotbits they said only Race/Sport is available now and the car is for show not performance

Thanks

As far as I know, Hotbits make the only "bolt-on" coilovers for magnas. While it's possible that some other brand of coilovers make units for another car which are very similar and could be modified to suit - it will probably be more costly than Hotbits units, and most places will probably laugh at you when you say you want custom coilovers for a magna.

If the cars going to be a full on show car - then I'd look at airbag suspension. Otherwise get some custom made springs to drop the car as low as you possibly can while still being driveable. If you're in Sydney - Kmac will be able to help you out.

bLAdEbLA
13-10-2006, 09:42 PM
Well because the car has to be low and drivable (it has 19s on it) I think coilovers are the only way?

It has chopped springs on stock shocks at the moment and for safety changing that over. I don't think springs can lower it enough with them still being trapped and safe?
Needs to be dumped pretty much

I guess hotbits is the go seeing as handling/performance is not a main issue here

bLAdEbLA
13-10-2006, 09:43 PM
Here is a pic of the car by the way on chopped springs
Needs to go couple of inches lower

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/spetz83/DSC000061.jpg

Twunka
13-10-2006, 11:58 PM
eibach make coilovers for the 96+ diamante which is the same shell as the magna so they should fit no probs. only problem is i've only found 3 places in QLD to get em from so they arn't all that common

bLAdEbLA
14-10-2006, 12:12 AM
How much are they though?

Like mentioned this car is going to be for show, coilovers are simply fitted to be able to be slammed but safe so handling isn't a priority (although it would still be nice to get looks and performance)

$1650 for the street spec hotbits is ok, 2K max I would say as well

Twunka
14-10-2006, 12:26 AM
sorry i was wrong its tein that make it not eibach i'll dig up the info tomoz or sunday as they did drop lower than the hotbits at the rears and and were around the same price as the street kit i found out a while ago.

thw01f
14-10-2006, 12:56 AM
How much are they though?

Like mentioned this car is going to be for show, coilovers are simply fitted to be able to be slammed but safe so handling isn't a priority (although it would still be nice to get looks and performance)

$1650 for the street spec hotbits is ok, 2K max I would say as well


get 'em, uno u vont it

You are like me a year ago, main reason looks/height then handling.

A year later , yeah I still like the looks but its now all about the insane cornering ability.

I cannot pick a big enough word but hears a definition.........

On ACA the other night there was this mad pipe totin' ice head "driving" (thats not the word either, but the vehicle was moving awfully quick and he was at the wheel) a car fitted with the dash cam..........now if he had them coils......well, let just say the the ice rush whilst taking a bend would've popped him!

As GoTRICE stated, you don't want to be a first time passenger. You will experince the brain phenomenon commonly known as "I actually saw my life flash before me" or something like the ice dude.

Black Beard
14-10-2006, 05:20 AM
As GoTRICE stated, you don't want to be a first time passenger. You will experince the brain phenomenon commonly known as "I actually saw my life flash before me" or something like the ice dude.

lol I think it was a combination of coilovers working their magic, while two turbos pumped out peak boost, and the fact that I had to jump on the brakes real hard at the other end of the corner, when I realised the road didn't go anywhere :bowrofl:

To the OP, I've heard people say that if you take the "helper springs" out of the Sport spec Hotbits Coilovers - you should be able to slam it as low as a car with street spec coils. But based on every thing you've said, I think you should bump your budget up by about another $1500 and go for airbag suspension, then you can make the car "dance" at car shows :cool: .

Dee
14-10-2006, 06:32 AM
Agree with the above.

You mention you have 19s, and i dont think there is much diff between them and 20s, but you really dont get to use the coilovers abilities too much with large rims. :( And if its just for show then you'd be best going for something else.. bags would be fun :D

Pete
14-10-2006, 08:38 AM
i have coilovers with 19s. cornsers are so fun. my car is high at the moment haven't lowered mine muc at all. but with the ralliart kit i guess its a bit loer anyways.

best thing about coilovers: It seems with the ralliart wing people think you think you have a race car, so feel the need to tailgate you and that inclueds around corners, but you get to corners you go around them as quick as you want, then they get to them they dont do the same. then find out its not a magna with just an evo wing no longer do they tailgate you.

97altera
14-10-2006, 09:23 AM
i have coilovers with 19s. cornsers are so fun. my car is high at the moment haven't lowered mine muc at all. but with the ralliart kit i guess its a bit loer anyways.

best thing about coilovers: it seems with the ralliart wing people think you think you have a race car, so feel the need to tailgate you and that inclued around corners you get to corners you go around them, then they get to them they dont do the same. then find out its not a magna with just an evo wing no longer to they tailgate you.

Am i still feeling the effects of last nights alcohol or is that really hard to understand.

Dee
14-10-2006, 09:30 AM
Am i still feeling the effects of last night alcohol or is that really hard to understand.

too much time under this 40deg sun :D (plus he's just stupid).
lol

Disciple
14-10-2006, 09:36 AM
Am i still feeling the effects of last nights alcohol or is that really hard to understand.
I hardly drunk last night and it was still hard for me. :bowrofl:

thw01f
14-10-2006, 10:47 AM
lol I think it was a combination of coilovers working their magic, while two turbos pumped out peak boost, and the fact that I had to jump on the brakes real hard at the other end of the corner, when I realised the road didn't go anywhere :bowrofl:


poor Ricey, the aural sense of death added to sight and feel. All you needed to add was some macca's (taste and smell) and he'd swear the lord personally spoke to him.

bLAdEbLA
14-10-2006, 01:53 PM
To clear any confusion,
The car isn't mine, and neither is this account. I am just posting for a friend with a Verada with another friends account who owns a Magna. I posted in the lounge how to create an account because it wouldn't let me before.


Back to the suspension...
I hadn't thought of bags, considering a kit is only about 2ish grand as well isn't it? I'll let him know about them as they would be cool.

As far as handling goes, I don't think it matters how good the coilovers are because 19" tyres don't come cheap and therefore these are:
1. Cheapest 19" tyres money can buy
2. I don't think the owner will drive hard because he wont want to change them every few months ;)


Does Tein SS make coilovers for them?
I drive a lancer with Tein SS and they are quite good

Pete
14-10-2006, 03:20 PM
too much time under this 40deg sun :D (plus he's just stupid).
lol

Dee i hope your not talking about me, im not stupid. thats not a nice thing to say.

Dee
14-10-2006, 09:13 PM
Dee i hope your not talking about me, im not stupid. thats not a nice thing to say.
**** u pete

jks
:D