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bLAdEbLA
16-10-2006, 01:21 AM
I noticed on the forums here that ralliart and AWD magna brakes are bigger?
Can someone tell me what size front rotors they use, and what calipers?
I have a lancer with FTO MIVEC engine and FTO MIVEC brake setup all round which uses identical rotors to magna's (276mm) but twin piston calipers instead of single piston like magnas have
I also know that evo IV rotors are 294mm and use the same calipers I have
I am wonder what are the pajero and ralliart magna calipers?
What I am trying to achieve is purchasing DBA4000 Evo IV rotors and hoping that with just the ralliart magna/pajero calipers I can bolt this onto my car
Disciple
16-10-2006, 05:07 AM
There's a fair bit of info on this topic on the forums already, you might find some with a search. To answer part of your question, the Ralliart rotors are 294mm front and 284mm rear with twin pot calipers on the front (which I think are the same as the pajero caliper) and single pot caliper at the back.
bLAdEbLA
16-10-2006, 01:41 PM
Do you know if the hub of the ralliart magna is the same as the normal one?
So basically does the caliper sit out a bit further to clear the extra 18mm of rotor?
Disciple
16-10-2006, 01:43 PM
Do you know if the hub of the ralliart magna is the same as the normal one?
So basically does the caliper sit out a bit further to clear the extra 18mm of rotor?
That I have no knowledge of sorry man. I'm sure others here can help tho.
cthulhu
16-10-2006, 02:14 PM
You might want to read this thread (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37998).
bLAdEbLA
17-10-2006, 01:12 AM
Nice thread however unfortunately the real comparison I need is normal magna 276mm brakes Vs Magna with the 294mm brakes
Basically trying to find out if it will be a bolt in afair to upgrade to 294mm rotors on my lancer
Monster Inc
17-10-2006, 06:31 AM
Nice thread however unfortunately the real comparison I need is normal magna 276mm brakes Vs Magna with the 294mm brakes
Basically trying to find out if it will be a bolt in afair to upgrade to 294mm rotors on my lancer
Considering Magna's can bolt on EVO8 front brakes without drama's (Other than wheel's that fit the calipers and EVO8 Rear brakes with few mods (FWD) or no mods (AWD), it's fair to say that if your lancer has 5 stud hubs, correctly spaced axle stubs and you have decent clearance in your rims, then Magna brakes should fit. But we are not lancer experts on this forum so it's unlikely you will get a 100% confident response.
Good luck with your upgrade.
bLAdEbLA
17-10-2006, 01:21 PM
Well my theory is this:
My car and Magna's run the same 276mm rotors at the front
My car runs twin piston calipers and magna runs single, BUT if the calipers are interchangable and work fine on one another (which I will find out for myself) then, if it is a simple "slot bigger rotor and ralliart calipers on a normal magna" then it should be the same deal with my car too?
science
17-10-2006, 04:40 PM
im running the same brakes as you on my magna. the ralliart uses the same twin piston calipers as AWD, pajero, and second gens with ABS. the differance is the brakets that hold them on. you should be able to fit the ralliat rotors and you callipers if you can get some ralliart brakets. Im trying to get some myself.
bLAdEbLA
17-10-2006, 09:29 PM
So the ralliart calipers don't sit on the hub/knuckle and rather have a bracket inbetween them??
Monster Inc
18-10-2006, 06:10 AM
So the ralliart calipers don't sit on the hub/knuckle and rather have a bracket inbetween them??
All floating Type calipers have a bracket that bolts to the axle stubs. This bracket holds the rotor on the hub when the wheel is off, sets the horizontal offset and radial distance of the caliper and provides a sliding mechanism for the calipers. the slide bolts lock the caliper in place on the bracket and allow only a small lateral movement during braking to evenly clamp the rotor between the pistons on the inside and the hooked arm on the outside of the caliper.
This is opposed to fixed/performance type caliper (eg. Evo 5-onwards) where opposing pistons clamp the rotor during braking and the caliper is rigidly bolted to the axle stubs.
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