does anyone know how hard it would be and what id have to do to change the stud pattern to fit these wheels?

might wanna check the offset before u even think about the stud pattern, seeing they are form a 4wd, i'd say the offset would be fairly wide... i guess u could ask a wheel repair shop what they think?

wouldnt suit a magna...

they r a mini-truckin wheel for sure
wouldnt waste ya time or $ finding out bout em...

don't think they would fit your car - they are made for landcruisers mainly

Manual

what would the problem be with the offset?

exactly my point i know they wont fit! thats why i wanna know what id have to do to go about replacing the stud hub with one they will fit on. they are made for tritons so at least i could look at staying mitsi???

well if ya gettin a triton thayd most probly fit...or u could have the holes re-drilled or pre-drilled for a triton...

or there would b wheels like it for a triton

ok ill spell it out a bit more slowly for everyone. i want to fit a set of these wheels onto my magna. im not an idiot, i know they will not fit straight on. this is why i asked originally what i would have to do to change the stud pattern to make them fit. i dont want any body to tell me not to do it or it will look bad. i would just like anyones advice or knowledge on what it would take to do it. specifically mitsiman, madmagna or tbutcher? any help guys?

the stud pattern is only 1/2 the problem. the other 1/2 is the distance between the holes and how long your bolts are (offset)

If you are not an idiot then you woudln't just think that the stud pattern is the only obstacle you have. Why don't you just read some of the replies to this thread? :roll:

im talking about replacing the whole stud setup. like a transplant out of a triton or something. the wheel come in 15x7 so they will have no problem fitting. i just want to know how to swap the stub axle assembly

If you are not an idiot then you woudln't just think that the stud pattern is the only obstacle you have. Why don't you just read some of the replies to this thread? :roll:wow that was heaps helpful! thanks man!

here ya go. an artists impresion.

man there bloody beafy! i recon it will be britty bloody hard to do it but 4 thos looks!!! :p

AdAm

haha exactly my point! it will definately be worth it!

yer alot hard work tho :?
HEY maybe try ringing up the ppl dat make em and see if they can make em to suit ur car?

AdAm

yeah thats what i was thinking. they might do it. would cost alot but it will just depend on how much it will cost the other way.

get the wheels, then a hydrolic lift kit and an all wheel drive conversion and ur ready to hit the dirt :D hehehehe


Tim

i want to transpant a l300 4wd base to my car :D

No need to get smart bout it. If u had of explained your reasoning probly and more detailed first off you would got ya answeres...

as a wise man once said 'he who thinks first...shall find an easier way around such an obsitcle'

Why *** around with ya hubs etc, gettin it all enginerred and what ever else will need to be ***** with...go get the rims custom made if u like em so much :roll:

a shit load cheaper then changing all dat shit...and alot smarter![/quote]

I understood your first post no probs MAGWGN, dunno why everyone is quick to attack, anyway I ain't sure exactlly how it is done, but I know you have to change the hubs (i.e whole new disks, calipers, brakeline adapters..etc...) so it would be an expensive exercise :(

I understood your first post no probs MAGWGN, dunno why everyone is quick to attack, anyway I ain't sure exactlly how it is done, but I know you have to change the hubs (i.e whole new disks, calipers, brakeline adapters..etc...) so it would be an expensive exercise :(*tips hat to phonic* :D thanks. im already getting new discs so i figured i might aswell postpone that to see how plausable this would be. im still trying to get the specs for the wheels but obviously its hard over christmas. hopefully one of the mechanic guys can give some input on what it would take, but ill probably go see this brake guy i know after chrissy.

Hey magwgn...your best option would probably be to get them custom made to suit the Magna.

Otherwise you'd have to change the whole stub axle assembly which would require a custom fit 'cause the whole mounting would be completly different to a Magna! Then you'd need new rotors, steering tie-rods, etc.

It is possible that an engineering shop could modify those mags to fit straight onto your vehicle, they would have to carve into the offset of the mag so it does'nt hang out the sides of the car and as for the stud pattern they should be able to fix that as well, either by adopting the triton pattern onto your magna axle stud pattern or remachining the magna stud pattern onto the mag wheel.

Either way you will have to get an engineering report etc to pass them through mainroads.

I looked into something similar before and it can be done, but it will cost you heaps of cash.

yeah i realise the money issue. hopefully if all goes to plan im gonna have a lot soon anyway so im gonna be more than happy to pay for what i want. ive been looking for so long for just the right wheel to suit my look, and now ive found it i guess i just gotta do what i gotta do.

Ok the well you could have a few issues...
1 - the weight of the rims.. could stuff the suspension quicker...
2 - The offset.. the distance that the inside face of the wheel (the part that bolts to your stub) compared to the outside face of the wheel and also the distance that the wheels stick into the car.. (You could have a-guard clearence and height travel problems when turning and hitting on the guard, b-if the wheel sticks in too far then it will hit on suspension.
3 - bolt pattern...To fix it you have two options... a-Get your stub re-drilled with the correct spacing and larger stud bolts (as Im sure that the bolts that these came off would be say 12mm instead of 10mm bolts), b-get the rims redrilled with the 5x114.3 spacings... (you may still need to get larger diameter studs put into your stub axle.) By drilling into the rims.. you turn them into a multifit.. and since they have that cover over the frront anyway then you wouldnt notice it.
4 - The diameter of the centre of the rim is also a problem.. meaning that a rim is supposed to sit on the 3mm protrusion out of the stub so that the weight is distributed evenly around the axle and not just on the studs them selves... You can get little donut spacers made up to bridge the gap... or if it is to small then get the rim ground out to suit.
5 - If the offset is to far out from the axle .. tehn you could get the inside face of the rim machined ... (if there is sufficent body left to machine into.) If it sticks too far into the car.. then you could use wheel spacers... to block them out .. you have to be careful that there is sufficent thread left exposed on your studs to bolt the wheels to.... Again you could change the studs to longer and Id also suggest thicker ones if you where planing on extending them.

So basically I reckon you can do it without spending heaps.
If you are going to be getting new rotors etx.. then Id look at a set of Verada KS ones... they are ALOT bigger in Diamater and thickness and will bolt straight on.. and should be "fairly" easy to get.

They are not the sort of Rims that I personally like... but you are the one that has to live with them so I say go for it.
Haydn

I dont get it - There is SOOO many rims available that you can fit straight on your car and you like ones that don't??!!?!

I see where your coming from liking the wheels but if i was you i'd go to a couple of wheel joints to see if theres something else you like that is made for a Magna rather than spending the money to make that exact rim fit.

Good luck with the fitment if you decide to go down that path anywayz!

Well Maybe he already has the rims!
or he has access to them cheap...
WHO CARES
If you dont have an answer for him in relation to the question he asked ... then dont bother posting...
Read the post and then go onto the next one... Each post doesnt require input from every member...

This goes for ALL of US!
Haydn

i think hes just trying to bring him to reality hayden.

As well documented on this forum of late hes had sum $ trouble. And to even bother looking into a mod like that, thatl obviously cost sum time let alone big $.

But I reckon that...
a .. it may end up costing that much compared to other peoples rims... (if he is getting them cheap)
b .. you dont go trying to bring people back to reality..

Geez I hope no one tells me that I am never going to Marry Angelina Jolie..... Because I AM!!!! DAMIT!
Next time she comes to Australia.. Ill be there with my Pimpin Diamante... and she will say.. "HMMMM goto get me some of that !"

:D

Haydn

[quote:c5f8f6c43c] you dont go trying to bring people back to reality[/quote:c5f8f6c43c]

y not? id rather this site for being realistic...not wasteing $ on a wasted 'useless' mod.

im not saying its a stupid thing to do. by all means go for it. but i really reckon hed regret doing it when the final bill comes in. And what for? so a type of wheel can fit...it doesnt all line up. just thinking smartd

But I reckon that...
a .. it may end up costing that much compared to other peoples rims... (if he is getting them cheap)
b .. you dont go trying to bring people back to reality..

Geez I hope no one tells me that I am never going to Marry Angelina Jolie..... Because I AM!!!! DAMIT!
Next time she comes to Australia.. Ill be there with my Pimpin Diamante... and she will say.. "HMMMM goto get me some of that !"

:D

Haydn


No your not going to marry Angelina Jolie cause I here your trying to get the laws changed so it's legal to marry your car



And if he wants to put those mags on his car thats up to him not us he just wants our advice, we all have our own ideas for mods, these are his, some people think what we all do is a waste of time and money burt we still all mod our Magnas anyway.

personally I thing buying an Accord is a waste of money....
Why ANYONE would ever go out and buy a NEW CAR ..is beyond me!
you loose so much money as soon as you drive it out of the showroom...
you are better off buying a car 12mths old with low KMs.... get it detailed and resprayed inside with that new car smell...
Ok well there is that new car smell... =P~ :D

Haydn

firstly, thanks for everyones input. granted most of it was pointless unwanted rubbish and useless opinions that didnt answer my question but hey, we all gotta have our say dont we! thanks tbutcher and others who did actually have something useful to say. it is much appreciated. yes ive had money problems but as my compensation case is about to be resolved im about to come into some considerable wealth and as my car is pretty much the only thing that hasnt turned its back on me i think she deserves having a bit of money spent on her.

No prob bob...
Keep us up to date...

Id like to put some 20" rims on my next Magna :D

Just got to find some that I like and see if they fit my setup :D

I'll start with the useless part of my post:
Haydn, won't your wife get upset about Anjelina??

More useful part:
MAGWGN, if you were to change to the Triton hubs, there would be issues in the fitment of them, as they are RWD/4WD, with a solid axle rear end, so you probably couldn't even put the driven axle hubs onto your front end and vice versa. I would guess the Triton ones are six stud, most 4WDs and light trucks are, so redrilling your could be even more difficult.

Haydn's comments re depth of the rims for clearance problems either to your suspension or guards could also be a big issue. The offset of the rim changes its balance on the suspension, so if the mount is closer to or further away from the outside of the wheel than yours in a percentage of the rim term, you could damage the suspension??

All the best with it. I think they will look smaller than your sample pic though if they are only 15" diameter. To go from your standard (I think) 185/75 R14 rims to a 15x7", you would need something like 225/55 R15 tyres for a similar rolling diameter, which could be harder to find. Then, trying to fit a 225 or 235 tyre under the Magna guards could also be difficult.

But, if you have the money, you can do anything.

granted most of it was pointless unwanted rubbish and useless opinions that didnt answer my question [/quote:1dd6072f6a]

How was it useless...? We where just showing the other side of the story.
Showing that there is no use building a car around some rims. You could get them custom made, but im sure there would be a wheel maker out there with the same style that would fit strait out.

We would rather see you spend your $ wisely, rather then blowing it on some mods to fit some wheels.

thanks guys. these more informed opinions and advice is what i was after to start with. ive been looking for a set of rims to match the look im after for over 8 months and nothings has caught my eye. ive been on every web site, looked through every catalouge, everything. then finally i find these ones and **** me if they dont fit. just my luck! im gonna wait till the money comes through till i seriously start trying the fesability of this, but my mate just told me about this guy who specialises in unorthodox wheel fitment modifications. he specialises in old american street rods but he will definately be able to give me a straight yes or no. does anyone know of any places that do custom rim manufacturing while on the topic?

There is a place on the Gold coast that can do anyhing with rims... straighten, widen, narrowing etc.... not sure if they do what you want...
Ill post there contact tommorow... I have their card at school.
Haydn

Ok feel free to flame me for this post, i do not care less :D , leave the poor guy alone for wanting someting different.
Your opinions about these wheels seem to fall into the same catagory as my opinion on painted dashes.....why.....
With exception to a few like hayden and heydude who have tried to help give him a break and btw, his financial problems are his business as the post was about his wheels nothis $$.

Who cares if we think this mod is useless, he wants to do it and even if we do not like it it is not our car and it is re-freshing to see something different for a change as far as wheels go. ok I am over it now lol :p

The hubs, tie rods etc have absolutly no relationship to the question asked, rwd, fwd etc, who cares? does he also have to change his interior light?

The solution is simple MAGWGN, if you have the funds, get the wheels modified to fit the car. Given that you have to get them done by professionals to make them legal, the law is very strict on wheel mods, they should be able to fill the current stud holes, drill new ones, re enforce any necc parts, if spacers are needed they can most of the time make them part of the wheel as detachable spacers are illegal. (don't get these mixed up with hub spacers which are fine)

Years ago when I played with rotaries I had a set of 14" 5 spoke rebel wheels re drilled to suit the 4 stud Mazda. They were done by an engineer so were legal.

You can get hubs etc modified, prob would not have to change hubs etc with the right engineer doing it but will be extremly costly, would be cheaper to get the maker of these wheels to make a special set for you.

Also while at it get an extra done for a spare incase you smash one as it will be cheaper to get them done all at once.

its cronstuctive critisism... we r allowed to give ideas for other thoughts dude...

mag...the only i dea i got is to go look threw american mags...

they r right into thatsorta thing

god i love being conterversial! thanks to you madmagna, i was hoping for your input. all your comments are much appreciated. ill definately look into that. dont know how id go getting roh to make me a one of set though. its worth a try but i guess.

I do not know about ROH however I have heard in the past of people getting wheels undrilled, same with rotors from DBA.
Get the engineer to then drill them and bob is your auntie

mate thats a really good idea. thanks ill definately keep that in mind.