About a week ago I picked up a KR for the missus, now Im just in the process of repairing all the little things wrong with it (thermostat, roof lining, cv joints...the usual stuff :) )

A few things I have noticed:

NO Electric Windows???
NO Cruise Control???
RHS Drive Shaft uses a 25T Spline into the gearbox (26mm) whereas 99.9% of all shafts I can find use the 28mm spline. I found one, but the inner CV was worse than the current one lol

Its a KR ei and I only just sold another (worse condition) KR ei that didnt have any of these strange things.

Plates etc under the bonnet say KR Verada, its a 1991 model with a V6 so it HAS to be a Verada, it has Verada Bumpers, Boot Garnish etc so its not just a dressed up Magna.

?

EDIT: No Central Locking Either.

Stuff's been stripped out of it or it's a rebirth.

Ive seen a couple of KR/S veradas on ebay that didnt have the extras as well.
I thought it was odd at the time, was there ever a povo verada???:confused:

Maybe the very first ones were pov pack? Like they thought that because it was a v6 it'd just be worth the extra money or something?

Verada was the all optioned everything version...why would there be a pov pack???? The ebay ones were probably stripped too :P

If anything EI was the pov and Xi was the top...but they all had power everything standard...

Its Very weird.

Admittedly Ive never owned a 1991 Verada, only 1992 and 1997, however theyve gone to some effort if indeed they have ripped this stuff out.

Stripped for sure.
Never heard of no ei's without power windows.

Crazy.

Dude, contact the seller ask him what's going on.
How much you pay?

meh your all wrong, the very first batch of ei's didnt have alot they also had different seat fabric very similar to the tr se too
it wasnt till 92 im sure that got the luxary pack standard
ive tryed seaching on online car sites to show you but the only 91 ei's have no pics :(

According to carsales they should have electric windows http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.research_specs?vehicle_code=19931116.0 9:08:20&year_max=&model_name=VERADA&cs_trans_id=&cs_segment_name=&keyword=kr&y=0&body_name=&search_type=21&engine_low=&selected_make_index=&price_min=&grade_name=&price_max=&seat_num=&door_num=&engine_high=&make_name=MITSUBISHI&x=0&year_min=

meh your all wrong, the very first batch of ei's didnt have alot they also had different seat fabric very similar to the tr se too
it wasnt till 92 im sure that got the luxary pack standard
ive tryed seaching on online car sites to show you but the only 91 ei's have no pics :(

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.research_specs?vehicle_code=19931116.0 9:08:20&body_name=&year_max=1991&keyword=&model_name=VERADA&cs_trans_id=&cs_segment_name=&seat_num=&search_type=21&engine_low=&selected_make_index=&price_min=&grade_name=&engine_high=&price_max=&door_num=&year_min=1991&make_name=MITSUBISHI

This states that you're wrong...

Edit, damn you M4DDOG :P

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.research_specs?vehicle_code=19931116.0 9:08:20&body_name=&year_max=1991&keyword=&model_name=VERADA&cs_trans_id=&cs_segment_name=&seat_num=&search_type=21&engine_low=&selected_make_index=&price_min=&grade_name=&engine_high=&price_max=&door_num=&year_min=1991&make_name=MITSUBISHI

This states that you're wrong...

Edit, damn you M4DDOG :P
haha too slow :P.

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.research_specs?vehicle_code=19931116.0 9:08:20&body_name=&year_max=1991&keyword=&model_name=VERADA&cs_trans_id=&cs_segment_name=&seat_num=&search_type=21&engine_low=&selected_make_index=&price_min=&grade_name=&engine_high=&price_max=&door_num=&year_min=1991&make_name=MITSUBISHI

This states that you're wrong...

Edit, damn you M4DDOG :P
ok then explain why every 91 ei doesnt have all that, have a look around in wrecking yards and car sales joints :P :P

How much was paid for this car?

also

http://www.drive.com.au/buy/market_value/car_details.asp?nvic=YCM&make=MITSUBISHI&model=VERADA&series=Ei&year=1993&body=4D+SEDAN

^^ 93 ei


http://www.drive.com.au/buy/market_value/car_details.asp?nvic=U3I&make=MITSUBISHI&model=VERADA&series=Ei&year=1991&body=4D+SEDAN


^^ 91 ei
lol

$1000 with reco V6 and gearbox.

So not too worried about electrics missing :)

also

http://www.drive.com.au/buy/market_value/car_details.asp?nvic=YCM&make=MITSUBISHI&model=VERADA&series=Ei&year=1993&body=4D+SEDAN

^^ 93 ei


http://www.drive.com.au/buy/market_value/car_details.asp?nvic=U3I&make=MITSUBISHI&model=VERADA&series=Ei&year=1991&body=4D+SEDAN


^^ 91 ei
lol

That 91 ei that you have there is a perfect description of the KR that I picked up. Thanks. Good to know that we dont have stolen/stripped/rebirthed stuff.

That 91 ei that you have there is a perfect description of the KR that I picked up. Thanks. Good to know that we dont have stolen/stripped/rebirthed stuff.
Hey it was only $1000 hehe tis all good then :D

Hey it was only $1000 hehe tis all good then :D

Definitely :)

Engine is smooth and quiet and is a non-smoker :)

Transmission is even smoother :)

Both replaced less than 12 months ago with RECONDITIONED parts, not 2nd Hand. Receipts were included in sale :)

Damn you got a top buy! its cost me well over $1K so far just for the top end reco...you got a whole car....

Hows the paint?

According to the brochure the 1st Veradas had the power pack as an options that give you power windows etc, it was late 1991 or 1992 that it be came standard.

Have all the doors been replaced, isn't that the only way you can go from electric to mechanical window winders? or ..... respray, rebirth, wrecker doors ???

who would bother to rebirth a magna?

Exactly .... quick easy money under the radar. X3, X4, times 5 ..... eeeeeasy money across the states of Australia

The first KR EI verada's didnt have any of those features.

I can remember when we were buying our 2nd gen brand new when they first came out. We had an amount we could spend (as it was a company car).

We had the choice of (for the money):
1. TR SE with elec windows, cruise, central locking etc (4cyl) or a
2. KR EI wind down windows, no cruise and no central locking (V6).

Was a tough call at the time as the V6 was brand new to Mitsub and we wanted the extra power.

We wnded up going the Magna for the extra features for the money.

So, yeah, i would say your Verada is legit.

']Damn you got a top buy! its cost me well over $1K so far just for the top end reco...you got a whole car....

Hows the paint?

The paint was excellent, no peeling clear coat or dull spots. A little scuff or 7 on the bumpers which was fixed with a $10 can of touch up paint.

I did have to replace the front RHS guard as somebody had spilled brake/tranny fluid on it and most of the paint had peeled off it, but that was as easy as $95 from the wreckers in the same colour and 1/2 hours work.

V6 was only available initially with a Verada badge. The V6 Magna came on the scene about 6-10 months later. After this happened, the EI's must have changed to being semi-luxury models. I have an original brocure here somewhere. I'll have a hunt around for it.

ok then explain why every 91 ei doesnt have all that, have a look around in wrecking yards and car sales joints :P :P

lol I already knew...I just wanted to make fun of you and carsales and take the piss out of myself at the same time :P lol

lol I already knew...I just wanted to make fun of you and carsales and take the piss out of myself at the same time :P lol
lol haha sif :P.

lol I already knew...I just wanted to make fun of you and carsales and take the piss out of myself at the same time :P lol
yeh yeh hahah lol

My mate recently bought a KR verada Ei and i thought it had been rebadged also. Basic stuff looks like the electric windows have been added to it as the switch looks dicksmith and the motor doesnt stop when the window hits the top. cruise also looks after market. He paid $400 bucks - runs rough, paints knackered, cruise dont work, engines good and aircond works! licensed too lol

My mate recently bought a KR verada Ei and i thought it had been rebadged also. Basic stuff looks like the electric windows have been added to it as the switch looks dicksmith and the motor doesnt stop when the window hits the top. cruise also looks after market. He paid $400 bucks - runs rough, paints knackered, cruise dont work, engines good and aircond works! licensed too lol
LOL $400 what a steal

hey for $400 i wouldn't complain but then i got a KS Ei and got everything i need ;) for $2000

Not stripped, the first of the KR EI had no electrics such as windows etc, these were released in the mid to late 91 and a few got through in very early 92. These were around while Mits was clearing the last of the TP's. Magna on the forums had one a couple of years ago until it was written off.

This is from Autoedge which is the official company that is used by finance and insurance companies.

1991 NVIC U3I
Make MITSUBISHI Class PASSENGER VEHICLE
Family VERADA Segment LARGE
Variant Ei Release Date July 1991
Series KR Discontinue Date March 1994
Body 4D SEDAN
Engine MULTI POINT F/INJ
Engine Config V6 Average KM 257,000
CC 2972 cc Actual KM X1000 km
Transmission 4 SP AUTOMATIC
Standard Features [AC] Air Conditioning
[CT] Cloth Trim
[PM] Power Mirrors
[PS] Power Steering
[RC4] Radio Cassette with 4 Speakers

Options [ ] Acc - Cargo Barrier [ ] Acc - Rear Cargo Barrier [ ] Acc - Driving Lights [ ] Acc - Nudge Bar [ ] Acc - Roof racks [ ] Acc - Towbar User Option
Value ($)
New Opt. (Value not Depreciated)
Add User Option

RRP Below Average Average Above Average
Glass's Value $30,489 $2,200 $2,800 $4,300
KM Adjustment
Value of Options
Adjusted Values $30,489 $2,200 $2,800 $4,300


Where as you go the 92 onwards, without copying all the other crap
[AC] Air Conditioning
[CC] Cruise Control
[CL] Central Locking
[CT] Cloth Trim
[PM] Power Mirrors
[PS] Power Steering
[PW] Power Windows
[RC4] Radio Cassette with 4 Speakers



The XI was the first to have all electrics and the first XI's did not have the electric seat etc but did have the elec windows.

What year did the Xi start? Mines a Dec 93 and has electric drivers seat

The XI started in sept 91 from memory, it was a little later that the EI got the electrics and the cruise

The XI started in sept 91 from memory, it was a little later that the EI got the electrics and the cruise

I'm sure i've seen a TR shaped Elite .. am i mistaken? wasnt the elite the xi of that time? (tp and before)

I'm sure i've seen a TR shaped Elite .. am i mistaken? wasnt the elite the xi of that time? (tp and before)
Yeh there was a TR elite, and was it elante or elite that was the sh!t back in the 1st gen days? I'd say that the TR elite was the "best" model to get before the verada was released.

Yeh there was a TR elite, and was it elante or elite that was the sh!t back in the 1st gen days? I'd say that the TR elite was the "best" model to get before the verada was released.

Yeah i guess the Elante was the VRX and the elite the verada minus a few cylinders :P When i had my TP magna i always wanted an elite .. the digital dash always got me. I cant beleive how chopped down the aussie verada is compared to Japans diamante. What were they thinking!

The Elite was released at the same time as the XI Verada, was pretty much the same except 4cyl, no elec seat and small bumpers. The Elite even had the same larger rotors and better control arms of the Verada.

The first gen had the Elite also as well as the Elante which was a "sports" model