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Neo
28-10-2006, 08:29 PM
As it was getting towards the end of the year, I thought about what I would be doing for a holiday. But I thought, screw the idea I'll put some money into my 1st gen!

So I thought I would post on here for some info/feedback on what you guys think is hot/not, good/bad, etc.

Model: 1990 TP Wagon, Auto, White. I know I know, it's an auto, I just want to turn it into a nice sounding cruiser with a bit of boot. My next car will be the driver's car though, promise! :)

I've already had a go at the stereo: Poineer headunit, Poineer 6's in the front doors, Soundstream Primal 6x9's in the rear boot trim (spacers needed for these babies).

Real nice sounding, plenty of room for a couple of subs later on (I just had to get away from the ones in the dash, left them unplugged).

http://www.joshuaburford.com/headunit.jpg
http://www.joshuaburford.com/fronts.jpg
http://www.joshuaburford.com/rears.jpg

I'm look at getting the whole exhaust system done next, some input on what piping size would be good. I've read a FAQ somewhere that said not to go past 2" 1/2.
I was thinking about 2", 2" 1/4 press, new extractors, muffler etc, some help on good brand names would be great.

My idea of a muffler-

http://www.joshuaburford.com/muffler.jpg
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320040234147&ssPageName=MERC_VI_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=320039434835&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=CategoryProximity&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget

Does anyone know if these sytle ones are any good? Or if I might be better going for another one that you guy's can recommend?

And what about mandrel piping? Would there be much more gain by using this over press bent?

After that I was thinking about putting a new air filter in, maybe pod high performance one or just go straight for a k&n one of the same ^^ heard this was the other main mod to get more boost! Info please! :)

Now, im running it on stock wheels, tyres, suspension, shockers, etc, and it handles like a wounded bull. So this is the next that I'll do after the exhaust system.

Thinking maybe some lowered king springs, and some CSA or Lenso mags with tyres to fit.

Any input would be great, thanks guys. :D

Mrmacomouto
28-10-2006, 09:19 PM
Hey, I have the same head unit, trust me, go get a 4chan amp for the speakers, will be much better, although the head unit is okay, and I was happy at first, an amp makes all the difference.

[TUFFTR]
28-10-2006, 09:40 PM
Everything you've mentioned sounds damn hot

I would Maybe color code it aswell and get an elante kit

Sounds like a ripper 1st gen in the making!

magnatism
28-10-2006, 09:40 PM
having done virtually every mod known to man on my tr, i would suggest that you decide now exactly wot you want performance wise from it. i started off just seeking a bit more power but that bit more was never enough. i had my exhaust done 3 times because i didnt want to spend the $ for mandrel piping initially. but now i have it im extremely glad it makes heaps of difference.

if this were my car i wouldnt stuff around with cat back exhausts or bigger press bent piping
just go straight for 2.5" mandrel hi flow cat and extractors. this will give you the best possible exhaust and it will enhance any future mods you do.
it will probably cost you $250 - $280 for extractors, and about $800 for professionally done 2.5" mandrel piping, hi flow cat, lukey 2.5" offset to centre muffler(dont get offset to offset), new flex join and resonator. but whatever you do get the extractors at tha same time otherwise you will have to pay more to get the exhaust modified later.

sounds like a lot but it will do shi#loads to your performance.

the key to making more power is getting air in quicker and out quicker so base your mods on that... free up the exhaust and then start looking at the intake side... more and cooler air. try making a different intake plenum or getting bigger t/b etc. port and polish head if you want to.

anyway mate good luck with it all and keep us posted

BiG 4 CyL
28-10-2006, 09:42 PM
nice plans mate. i did the same on my second gen.
i would recomend you do your wheels and suspension first. if it handles like crap as you say, fix that before you add more horses otherwise your power will be nice n high but with negligible control. what i did, i threw on 16"rims, then lowered it 2 inches, springs shocks and bump stops, then went to the exhaust and extractors and other 'go fast' noises lol.
with ur exhaust ive read and heard that anything over 2 1/4" is too big, too much backpressure is lost defeating the purpose of the exhaust (not paying anyone out at all, thats just what ive read and heard) so i got a 2 1/4 exhaust on mine. i would recommend the K&N panel filter over the pod, less swirl and less heat. although the pod does suck alot more air in so thats up 2 u.

magnatism
28-10-2006, 09:51 PM
yeah i was initially told that 2.25" was tha max but after a few mods it was holding tha car back. most exhaust places only recommend 2.25" for 4 cyl but remember it is 2.6l thats a huge 4 cyl and does actually benefit from 2.5"

i had a 2.25" press bent full exhaust hi flow cat and lukey muffler and extractors. it definitely gave more power than standard but by changing to 2.5" mandrel bent and all tha fruit i picked up 5hp atw and my torque increased! and i gained another 500 useable rpm

stagma
28-10-2006, 10:07 PM
but was the torque low end or high end?

magnatism
28-10-2006, 10:22 PM
down low surprisingly but engine does have significant modz

Gemini
28-10-2006, 11:33 PM
So what do these things sound with a complete exhaust ? I want to upgrade too but don't want it to sound like a civic.

magnatism
29-10-2006, 08:13 AM
mine sounds really deep hey and its actually not excessively loud due to the resonator ao i can wind it out without letting every cop know wot im doing! but at tha same time it sounds sweet and doesnt drone anymore like it did with the 2.25" press bent exhaust

Neo
29-10-2006, 09:03 AM
Hey, I have the same head unit, trust me, go get a 4chan amp for the speakers, will be much better, although the head unit is okay, and I was happy at first, an amp makes all the difference.

Wow, thanks. But trust me though, there will be plenty of time and money for that later on. :P


having done virtually every mod known to man on my tr, i would suggest that you decide now exactly wot you want performance wise from it. i started off just seeking a bit more power but that bit more was never enough. i had my exhaust done 3 times because i didnt want to spend the $ for mandrel piping initially. but now i have it im extremely glad it makes heaps of difference.

if this were my car i wouldnt stuff around with cat back exhausts or bigger press bent piping
just go straight for 2.5" mandrel hi flow cat and extractors. this will give you the best possible exhaust and it will enhance any future mods you do.
it will probably cost you $250 - $280 for extractors, and about $800 for professionally done 2.5" mandrel piping, hi flow cat, lukey 2.5" offset to centre muffler(dont get offset to offset), new flex join and resonator. but whatever you do get the extractors at tha same time otherwise you will have to pay more to get the exhaust modified later.

sounds like a lot but it will do shi#loads to your performance.

the key to making more power is getting air in quicker and out quicker so base your mods on that... free up the exhaust and then start looking at the intake side... more and cooler air. try making a different intake plenum or getting bigger t/b etc. port and polish head if you want to.

anyway mate good luck with it all and keep us posted

Hmmm, I understand what you mean. I think I will go the full works on the exhaust then. Then afterwards, on the intake too. Offset to offset?

Got a quote on some extractors - $260, so yes, you're pretty good :shock:


nice plans mate. i did the same on my second gen.
i would recomend you do your wheels and suspension first. if it handles like crap as you say, fix that before you add more horses otherwise your power will be nice n high but with negligible control. what i did, i threw on 16"rims, then lowered it 2 inches, springs shocks and bump stops, then went to the exhaust and extractors and other 'go fast' noises lol.
with ur exhaust ive read and heard that anything over 2 1/4" is too big, too much backpressure is lost defeating the purpose of the exhaust (not paying anyone out at all, thats just what ive read and heard) so i got a 2 1/4 exhaust on mine. i would recommend the K&N panel filter over the pod, less swirl and less heat. although the pod does suck alot more air in so thats up 2 u.

I hear what you mean, well, It isnt that bad, im sure it would be fine with more power, but I know what you mean, I would even do mags/suspension/etc first just based on how much better it would look + handle.

Any work needed getting the panel filters in? The pod ones slot right in and just need some piping and a bracket from what I've heard. And yes, more air going in faster = better. :badgrin:


yeah i was initially told that 2.25" was tha max but after a few mods it was holding tha car back. most exhaust places only recommend 2.25" for 4 cyl but remember it is 2.6l thats a huge 4 cyl and does actually benefit from 2.5"

i had a 2.25" press bent full exhaust hi flow cat and lukey muffler and extractors. it definitely gave more power than standard but by changing to 2.5" mandrel bent and all tha fruit i picked up 5hp atw and my torque increased! and i gained another 500 useable rpm

Yer, fairly big engine I agree. I think I will go mandrel then, save me worrying about what could have been later on.

I think by the end of me finishing the 2.25" or 2.5" would be needed, combined with the rest of the system.

And also guys, I myself do a fair bit of photography as a hobby, so I was thinking of doing a second gen photoshoot. All other gens would be invited too, as I don't think there are too many first gens out there.

(Havn't done a multicar shoot before, but I'll not to disappoint)

stagma
29-10-2006, 09:41 AM
theres a few first gens down there in SA

magnatism
29-10-2006, 05:21 PM
offset to offset is the type of muffler it just refers to the position of the pipe in and out

BiG 4 CyL
29-10-2006, 08:46 PM
cheers, ur panel filter will just replace the paper filter already in the box, simple as that. easier than a pod filter. pod filters have the advantage of more sucking power but they have the disadvantage of swirling the air and unless u got a decent heat shield or cold air induction, u'll b sucking in hot swirly air.

for the other mods look at it this way. if ur drivin down the street with ur exhaust and whatever else sounding as phat as anything, people will b lookin round to see what is sounding so awesome. they'll see ur magna with grand canyon wheelarches and steel rims and be like wtf :nuts: . for me i did everythin b4 the exhaust. my exhaust was the cream on top. i still recomend u do the suspension first coz ull feel the difference with ur exhaust ay. i put mine on and was like :D :shock:. youll be topping out first gear in no time and just wanna go further.a fast car is nothin without sufficient handling.

BiG 4 CyL
29-10-2006, 08:47 PM
photo shoot? tell me more...

BCX7
30-10-2006, 02:14 AM
hey, i see that your in SA...

if you want ideas to do to your car, we should organise to to meet up and you can check out my ride.

infact, my car is in bits at the moment as i just put in climate control in if you wanna have a looksie.

let me know on msn or via PM.

Cheers,
Bill

mad lanté
30-10-2006, 10:24 PM
And also guys, I myself do a fair bit of photography as a hobby, so I was thinking of doing a second gen photoshoot. All other gens would be invited too, as I don't think there are too many first gens out there.

(Havn't done a multicar shoot before, but I'll not to disappoint)
ahh yeh, well if your interested once my car gets back on the road after 11 months :doubt: which shouldnt be too long now as the new motor is nearly ready to be plonked in
me and a few mates where gonna do a 1st gen shoot (me, BCX7, 3lante, fulysig)



infact, my car is in bits at the moment as i just put in climate control in if you wanna have a looksie.

mm yes climate control ay now we both got it, allmost as good as your new auto shifter :D - much better then that lame ugly ass stock stick

BCX7
31-10-2006, 06:23 PM
mm yes climate control ay now we both got it, allmost as good as your new auto shifter :D - much better then that lame ugly ass stock stick


mmmm indeedy... the stocko auto shifter is teh gayness

Neo
02-11-2006, 07:54 AM
offset to offset is the type of muffler it just refers to the position of the pipe in and out

Thanks mate, I'll watch out for this.


cheers, ur panel filter will just replace the paper filter already in the box, simple as that. easier than a pod filter. pod filters have the advantage of more sucking power but they have the disadvantage of swirling the air and unless u got a decent heat shield or cold air induction, u'll b sucking in hot swirly air.

for the other mods look at it this way. if ur drivin down the street with ur exhaust and whatever else sounding as phat as anything, people will b lookin round to see what is sounding so awesome. they'll see ur magna with grand canyon wheelarches and steel rims and be like wtf :nuts: . for me i did everythin b4 the exhaust. my exhaust was the cream on top. i still recomend u do the suspension first coz ull feel the difference with ur exhaust ay. i put mine on and was like :D :shock:. youll be topping out first gear in no time and just wanna go further.a fast car is nothin without sufficient handling.

Yer, you're right, this is what I'm leaning towards at the moment. Thinking about getting the suspension and some nice mags put on there first.


photo shoot? tell me more...

You know, finding some nice big open locations, everyone meeting up, and me taking photos of 1st gens.


hey, i see that your in SA...

if you want ideas to do to your car, we should organise to to meet up and you can check out my ride.

infact, my car is in bits at the moment as i just put in climate control in if you wanna have a looksie.

let me know on msn or via PM.

Cheers,
Bill

Sounds good, maybe when I've got mags and suspension done and when I'm looking into getting the exhaust done, and any other mods on the engine.


ahh yeh, well if your interested once my car gets back on the road after 11 months :doubt: which shouldnt be too long now as the new motor is nearly ready to be plonked in
me and a few mates where gonna do a 1st gen shoot (me, BCX7, 3lante, fulysig)

Excellent, not for a while yet though. I'll be looking around for some locations over the next few months, suggestions welcome.

How come it's been off the road for 11 months?

mad lanté
02-11-2006, 03:49 PM
Excellent, not for a while yet though. I'll be looking around for some locations over the next few months, suggestions welcome.

yeh i have a few spots in mind


How come it's been off the road for 11 months?
all should be revealed soon i hope :shock:

Neo
03-12-2006, 12:30 PM
Got new shoes on it.

Got lowered king springs and monroe shocks on the way.

Been speaking to some guys about exhaust systems. Looks like I may be going, lukey extractors, 2" mandrel cat back, not sure on muffler yet. Leaving cat along, all the guys I've spoken to say to leave it if I want low down torque still there (fuel eco out the window).

Also seeing if I can get a custom plasic CAI mold made for my TP front bumper. Think I'll just hook that up to a K&N panel filter, otherwise I'm going to keep it backwards compatible with a heat shielded pod filter. Reducing the size of my battery and moving a few things around to keep it all cool. Been speaking to the guys at munno para supercheap and some ss commodore place and they're willing to help (they haven't seen any of these cars done up, was their exact words). :P

Had a bit of trouble with work there, so it went all silent, still all in the process though, hopefully I'll have most of it done by february, then start on the heavy stuff.


yeh i have a few spots in mind

Sounds good, I live north of adelaide up near gawler, I'm more than happy to travel a bit one weekend when we have some people together for it, and when our cars are ready :P


all should be revealed soon i hope :shock:

ohhh, I get ya drift! lol

bitsofmystery
03-12-2006, 01:13 PM
save your money and buy a 3rd gen??? no disrespect.

Gemini
03-12-2006, 02:19 PM
save your money and buy a 3rd gen??? no disrespect.

:gtfo: :D

BCX7
03-12-2006, 03:04 PM
save your money and buy a 3rd gen??? no disrespect.

you clearly haven't been in a first gen...

Neo
03-12-2006, 03:40 PM
save your money and buy a 3rd gen??? no disrespect.

LoL, nah no probs. lol

Where's the passion, experience, memories in buying a faster, more reliable, better equipped stock car?

I used to think the stereo in the work cars that I drive were good (VY acclaims, VE SS’s) until I got my stereo installed, doesn’t really compare. And I haven’t even installed amp or subs yet. :confused:

I look forward to when it’s all been converted over to manual, with a big turbo on it and whoever I show looks at it and says “Wow, you must have put a lot of money and TIME into this!?”, and I go, “Yes, yes I have” and then "This is such a unique gem! You don't see anyone doing something like this anymore!".

I love magnas, it’s just who I am, can’t really explain it… I don't even care if I spend 10-20 grand on it over the next few years :P

P.S. I wash my car 1-2 times a week. lol

No disrespect. :)

Neo
06-12-2006, 06:02 PM
Took some happy snaps the other day, let me know what you guys think.

http://www.joshuaburford.com/1.jpg
http://www.joshuaburford.com/2.jpg

Haven't gotten a chance to take any proper ones since I got the wheels put on. I know it needs lowering, that's coming next, so don't even think of saying it. :P

BCX7
06-12-2006, 10:50 PM
looking sweet dude :)

Telemenohpee
07-12-2006, 10:56 AM
P.S. I wash my car 1-2 times a week. lol

No disrespect. :)

looks nice, and good thinking, its been about 6 months since i've washed my car :bowrofl: the wheels look like dirt brown !

Fantaysia
07-12-2006, 11:11 AM
save your money and buy a 3rd gen??? no disrespect.
I had a TP 5 speed manual :) aaah good times, nearly 6 years in fact. never let me down once. They'll never understand.

PS love the sunset pic, looken good.

[TUFFTR]
07-12-2006, 11:59 AM
A cheap mod to do would be to spend $20 and redo all the chrome strip around your car, It is sort of unsettling the lines a bit....Re-doing the chrome will make it look so much better. :)

Fantaysia
07-12-2006, 12:35 PM
']A cheap mod to do would be to spend $20 and redo all the chrome strip around your car, It is sort of unsettling the lines a bit....Re-doing the chrome will make it look so much better. :)

whats this $20 chrome fixing stuff????

mad lanté
07-12-2006, 03:14 PM
Sounds good, I live north of adelaide up near gawler, I'm more than happy to travel a bit one weekend when we have some people together for it, and when our cars are ready :P

ahh yeh, im up in the hills but yeh would be good if you where interested in a shoot :)

btw tho pics of your car are smick, the mags are csa something orathers arnt they i remember seeing them before and liking them

good job!

Neo
08-12-2006, 10:29 PM
']A cheap mod to do would be to spend $20 and redo all the chrome strip around your car, It is sort of unsettling the lines a bit....Re-doing the chrome will make it look so much better. :)

$20? Where can I buy it? lol


ahh yeh, im up in the hills but yeh would be good if you where interested in a shoot :)

Yer, thats why I brought up the idea! February sound any good? Give all the first gener's some time in advance to clean up and put tyre black on. lol


btw tho pics of your car are smick, the mags are csa something orathers arnt they i remember seeing them before and liking them

Thanks, CSA octanes, they're pretty nice! :P

Neo
31-12-2006, 09:08 AM
Installed some blue injectors, starts heaps nicer, idles a lot nicer, runs a little smoother (no idea why, it just does).

Got some ideas/plans for some piping flowing to the air filter box :)

Got a set of hurricane extractors on the way. Also got my muffler ready to go on, will need a little modding on the rear just to fit those outlets on! :P

http://www.joshuaburford.com/IMG_4865.jpg

Just a quick Q: Should I get new gaskets when the extractors go on?

LeGiOnAiR
31-12-2006, 11:22 AM
That muffler looks great. What size piping are you getting through? I hope you're doing a proper job :D Hate to see someone get extractors, muffler and keep the stock piping!

Make sure you get some pics of the muffler on. Im gonna get one similar, and it would to know how hard/easy it was to modify the rear lip to fit the twin tips in.

Neo
31-12-2006, 01:18 PM
Was thinking 2" inch cat back mandrel, but then thought 2 1/2 inch press would do the same job for heaps cheaper, but now i've found -


A lot of vehicle owners wish to step up to a 2 Ľ inch sports system for their standard 4-cylinder car. This is not advisable, as it will only create drone in the cabin, particularly in automatics. We would recommend a 2 inch sports system from the catalytic converter back with a sports muffler.

Then again, the astron 2 is a pretty big engine.

Anyway, I think 2" press is going to be fine.

The back end bit is easy enough to modify, at the point where the muffler pipe comes out is plastic and the metal bit that holds it ends just above, need an opening of about 8 inches, dual 3 1/2 inch tips. :shock:

I'll be sure to post pics when it's all done (and maybe a video). :badgrin:

PeteW
03-01-2007, 07:41 PM
unless your going turbo... 2.25" press bent should be fine mandrel bend wouldnt see any noticable gains imho, some tps came out 2" stock so i would say 2.25" or 2.5", take it from some one who has done it cat back is nice full system is just mmm :D

I dont run a resinator on mine the car is almost silent when at freeway cruse only time its loud is when its given some stick

Neo
04-01-2007, 04:30 PM
unless your going turbo... 2.25" press bent should be fine mandrel bend wouldnt see any noticable gains imho, some tps came out 2" stock so i would say 2.25" or 2.5", take it from some one who has done it cat back is nice full system is just mmm :D

I dont run a resinator on mine the car is almost silent when at freeway cruse only time its loud is when its given some stick

Thanks for the advice, I think I'll take and go 2.25".

Speaking of exhaust systems, picked these babies up today, $260.

http://www.joshuaburford.com/IMG_5214.jpg
http://www.joshuaburford.com/IMG_5215.jpg

smooth2
04-01-2007, 07:40 PM
argh some lukelys, now im jealous:rant:
how much did they set u back if u don't mind, and where'd you get them from?

Tessa403
05-01-2007, 10:06 AM
save your money and buy a 3rd gen??? no disrespect.

When I got my old TN back I took her for a drive. Apart from the bent chassis that meant allowing for a strong pull to the left it was great to drive.

Jumping from my current 99 Altera wagon into the 89 Elite wagon gave a good sense of how far Magnas came. Not far at all. The Elite is roomier inside, has a more open airy feel about it and the front seats are almost as comfy. The rear seat is a split fold unlike the Altera. Sure ya can't go past the 3.5 V6, but the 2.6 in my old ***** was rebuilt and serviced by experts at Brunswick Magna and after 150,000 was going strong as ever.

I have been giving serious thought that my next car should be a restored TP Elite wagon on LPG. Thats how I compared the 89 Elite with my current 99 Altera.

Neo
06-01-2007, 07:36 PM
Arghhh, more thread highjackers! J/K :P


When I got my old TN back I took her for a drive. Apart from the bent chassis that meant allowing for a strong pull to the left it was great to drive.

Jumping from my current 99 Altera wagon into the 89 Elite wagon gave a good sense of how far Magnas came. Not far at all. The Elite is roomier inside, has a more open airy feel about it and the front seats are almost as comfy. The rear seat is a split fold unlike the Altera. Sure ya can't go past the 3.5 V6, but the 2.6 in my old ***** was rebuilt and serviced by experts at Brunswick Magna and after 150,000 was going strong as ever.

I have been giving serious thought that my next car should be a restored TP Elite wagon on LPG. Thats how I compared the 89 Elite with my current 99 Altera.

I know where you're going, I step from my TP into one of the work cars (VY acclaims) and their aint a great deal that I want (power windows maybe, and also central locking, but they're on my list of things to do to the TP :D).

I know what you mean about the room factor, I can fit a tonne more in my car than my brother can in his TH wagon.

NOW! The exhaust system has been finished today, specs are -

Extractors: Lukey (Pictured above)
Submuffler/resonator/pipe: Redback - Cat back system (2.25")
Muffler/tip: Some huge thing from sprint auto, dual cannon, 3.5" tips (Pictured above)

Man, after taking it for a cruise this afternoon, I seriously say it sounds like my mates WRX when you slowly accelerate through 1000-3500rpm. :D

It sounds like a really distinctive sound, as in you can hear each rev the engine puts out, not like a 1 tone muffle sound.. it also sounds great at idle! :D

In terms of power, I can't really tell you because I haven’t dynoed it before or after, but it revs a tonne of a lot easier and it feels like it has more pulling power between 2000-3000rpm.

Gave it a bit of boot tonight between gawler and elizabeth from some lights, creamed myself when it gets up to 5500rpm. :D

Pics and video/audio to come.

Neo
13-01-2007, 08:54 PM
Finished cold air induction mod late the other night, took it for a drive, could notice a bit more response straight away! It's running through the stock panel filter at the moment, but I've got a K&N panel on order for it.

Also got lowered kings and monroe shockers going in, probably in a week or so.

After that it would be dark tint.

Not sure what else I need after that :confused:, I think mad lante and BCX7 might have a few ideas on what I might be able to do next. lol

Pics of CAI and video of exhaust to come.

Neo
19-01-2007, 05:02 PM
mmmm, sweet sweet burning smell from the extractors :badgrin:

http://www.joshuaburford.com/extractors.jpg

Rear muffler, dual 3.5 tips, straight through design. Didn't end up cutting the rear bar, it's plasic but there's a metal strip an inch above it, plus for the sake of leaving for future muffler changes. :)

http://www.joshuaburford.com/exhaust1.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/exhaust2.jpg

Neo
19-01-2007, 05:09 PM
Made the following with 75mm PVC plumbing pipe (painted black), none of that bendy stuff with ripples in it. Got it down to 1 bend by moving the battery around a bit. The coiled rubber thing that's connected onto the airbox is off of an air induction from a dead TR. lol

Punched a 75mm hole in the usual spot everyone uses, cleaned the outside of the hole, put some little pipe stuff around it so the induction pipe doesnt get scratched or damaged.

Secured it mainly at the bend and at bottom to a metal bar so that it doesn't go falling out. :bowrofl:

The first pic shows it not installed, ended up cutting 3-5 inches off of the end product the night that I put it in, so that it sits just under the bumper as you can see in the photo.

http://www.joshuaburford.com/cai1.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/cai2.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/cai3.jpg

Can feel it sucking in a fair bit of air, even at idle, you should feel it suck when you give it some! As you can see I put some mesh and a clamp on it so no bugs or grass fly up there.

Still running it through a stock filter, got a k&n replacement going in soonish, might give it a tiny bit better flow.

smooth2
20-01-2007, 08:59 AM
good to see ur puttin a bit of effort into the old magna. But pls tell me that wasn't rope/cable ties/bungy cord holding your battery in:nuts: hate to see that come lose in any sort of trouble.

Neo
24-01-2007, 10:43 AM
good to see ur puttin a bit of effort into the old magna. But pls tell me that wasn't rope/cable ties/bungy cord holding your battery in:nuts: hate to see that come lose in any sort of trouble.

Oh yeaaa, about that... You're right, I made sure it doesn't move though (much). I know it's bad and I'm not leaving it like that, have a custom bracket made up but just have to fit it.

I know I could get defected for it, but I'm not stupid and wouldn't leave it like that for too long. :shock:

Neo
07-02-2007, 04:22 PM
Finally got all the suspension in.

Monroe sensatracs front and rear
King lows front and rear

So much nicer to drive I couldn't believe it, not to mention over 2 inch drops all round, pics to come.

Big thanks to Tim, Adam, and Bill

smooth2
07-02-2007, 04:39 PM
Finally got all the suspension in.

Monroe sensatracs front and rear
King lows front and rear

So much nicer to drive I couldn't believe it, not to mention over 2 inch drops all round, pics to come.

Big thanks to Tim, Adam, and Bill

so how did u lower the back end without it moving over 10cms. did u get a custom adjustable panhard rod put in? cos when u lower the suspenion in the sedan thats what u need to do the rear. unless u have a wagon.

Gemini
07-02-2007, 05:11 PM
I would really like to hear the exhaust :).

I wanted to make my CAI like yours but didn't want to cut away at the car so i had to use that crappy hole in front of my battery.

Neo
16-02-2007, 01:21 PM
so how did u lower the back end without it moving over 10cms. did u get a custom adjustable panhard rod put in? cos when u lower the suspenion in the sedan thats what u need to do the rear. unless u have a wagon.

Wagon, easy as to do the back shocks and springs :D


I would really like to hear the exhaust :).

I wanted to make my CAI like yours but didn't want to cut away at the car so i had to use that crappy hole in front of my battery.

LoL, I even went out and bought a special drill bit that goes through metal like butter :P

pics after getting springs and shockers in -

http://www.joshuaburford.com/IMG_5967.jpg

Coming soon - K&N filter, tint, elante kit (meaning custom apron), also think I'll lower the rear some more

Deanimus
16-02-2007, 05:11 PM
well done man!!!

seriously i would of done what u've done to ur car if i found amc earlier, when i still had my first 87 tn wagon. im doing all this stuff to my tr though

good stuff agian.:D

Neo
03-03-2007, 09:52 PM
well done man!!!

seriously i would of done what u've done to ur car if i found amc earlier, when i still had my first 87 tn wagon. im doing all this stuff to my tr though

good stuff agian.

hehe, thanks man

gives me something to do in my spare time, that's all I care :P


update: been lookin for new front bumper, going to respray mirrors and a few other little nick nacks, got red caliper paint that needs to go on.

got another $600-700+ of audio gear going into it, will prolly take a month or so to get it all in (2x 12" poineers with twin sub box, amps of choice)

glamour pics -

http://www.joshuaburford.com/front1.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/front2.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/IMG_6329.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/LEDs.jpg

Neo
13-03-2007, 08:57 AM
Small update

Colour coded low profile sigma scorpion mudflaps, to go with the elante kit.. looks sweet as.

-=-=-=-

Soon: Some elite spec interior mods, seats, etc. 2x 800watt pioneer subs, 800watt monoblock pioneer amp, lolz lolz.

Also wonna replace my front speakers with splits, wonna put my current ones on a second amp in the middle doors.

BiG 4 CyL
13-03-2007, 03:14 PM
hey mate, that ASTRON 2.6 label on your rocker come stock?? looks nice

Aströn Boy
13-03-2007, 07:49 PM
im gonna have to get to work on my custom kit, cant have another wagon with elant'e kit, i wont be original :doubt:

oh well, looks good tho man, nice to see another wagon looking good.

Neo
14-03-2007, 07:00 AM
hey mate, that ASTRON 2.6 label on your rocker come stock?? looks nice

Yer that came stock. Something the 1st gen's have and not the 2nd. :P


im gonna have to get to work on my custom kit, cant have another wagon with elant'e kit, i wont be original :doubt:

oh well, looks good tho man, nice to see another wagon looking good.

I've gotta get a custom rear anyway, as the elante kit is made for the sedan and not for the wagon, the rear bits dont go on. :redface:

Aströn Boy
14-03-2007, 05:13 PM
I've gotta get a custom rear anyway, as the elante kit is made for the sedan and not for the wagon, the rear bits dont go on. :redface:

well, with a slight bit of a mod from 2 rear side bits, u can make the elante kit fit. already tried it, but didnt see the point of drilling holes.

mad lanté
17-03-2007, 12:27 PM
coming along good now josh, probably the best sounding astron ive ever heard too:)

Neo
21-03-2007, 05:21 PM
well, with a slight bit of a mod from 2 rear side bits, u can make the elante kit fit. already tried it, but didnt see the point of drilling holes.

Yer, this is what I'll be working on next, need to get my hand on some rear bits next, but I don't think the elante` kit rear will like as good as it does on a sedan, as the rear on a wagon is further up in the air.


coming along good now josh, probably the best sounding astron ive ever heard too:)

thanks adam, running out of things that I can do on the outside, I'll have to resort to performance upgrades again soon :P

Neo
21-03-2007, 05:31 PM
Update time..

After fitting side skirts and full hecktic sigma mudflaps it was noticable how much higher the rear was from the front, have now lowered the rear to match the front, sits so nice and rides nice as now.. :D

Enjoy boys!!!... :badgrin:

http://www.joshuaburford.com/new1.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/new2.jpg

Aströn Boy
21-03-2007, 05:54 PM
looks familiar... lol

i left my rear bare, think it looks better, unsuspecting to when your riding behind.... cept for the massive canon. lol
http://www.fastmagna.com/gallery/albums/DWs-Wagon/side.jpg

Neo
21-03-2007, 07:59 PM
Yer, thats what I was thinking of doing, just leaving it as is, cause it's FFIIIiiiIIIiIInne!!!

Think I'll end up getting a custom rear done, to look like the rest of the elante` but to make way for the muffler and also so it hangs really low at the back. :badgrin:

Neo
13-04-2007, 03:48 PM
Not a lot of modding been going on lately, been caught up with work and tafe, however, tafe is on holidays for 3 weeks now,

SOO! On with plans!

I've been messing around with the air induction lately, CAI on/off/shorter intake pipe/longer, seems to run smoother with the CAI off (less restriction).

So, I'm going to be working on a big heat shielded box combined with a big oval k&n filter thats going in, and then have a few intake pipes going into the heat shielded box.

To do this properly I was thinking either, a small battery, or move the battery altogether, anyone got any thoughts on this?

Also, one of the CV joints has started clicking, had a look at it, split boot. Replacing the whole drive shaft tonight, so there goes some of my upgrade monies. :(

Anyway, ideas on the battery anyone?

PeteW
13-04-2007, 04:39 PM
moving the battery is somthing i was toying with also maybe mount it over the gearbox, that allows for the air bell/maff to be placed where the battery was with sufficiant room to run the cai down and out

Neo
14-04-2007, 10:29 AM
Yer, thats what I was thinking, there would be so much space for a heat shielded box there without the battery. Above the gearbox, hmmm will look at that.

Replaced the drive shaft last night. Didn't have any trouble with it, I was surprised to find a split in the inner boot aswell though. In a way, I guess it was an upgrade on the car afterall. :P

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/cv1.jpg
new and shiney

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/cv2.jpg
old and busted

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/cv3.jpg
inner

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/cv4.jpg
outer


If anything, the steering feels sharper now. Steering upgrades!

smooth2
14-04-2007, 12:06 PM
hey neo how much did the cv set u back and where'd you get it from if u don't mind saying??

Neo
14-04-2007, 12:16 PM
hey neo how much did the cv set u back and where'd you get it from if u don't mind saying??

Hmmm, well first you need to find out whether you want reconditioned joints or drive shaft, or then if you want a new shaft and joints. I went for the new shaft and joints cause it was going to be easy.

Repco were like $185 for new shaft and joints, $175 from sprint and $135 from super cheap. So it's just a matter of shopping around, hope this helps.

smooth2
14-04-2007, 02:08 PM
yea id go with the new ones myself. cheers for the info:D

Neo
17-04-2007, 10:14 AM
Got my hands on my k&n air filter yesterday, isntalled it and took it for a drive last night.

More response and induction noise are the main noticable differences. :D

Neo
17-04-2007, 02:23 PM
Man! Just took it out for a proper drive after doing a little airbox mod with the angle grinder this morning.

I bought a second airbox from upi and took the top of it off cause I thought it might = less restriction.

Turned the stereo off for a change and put the window down, opened the throttle up past 2000 revs in 1st gear, and MY GODS THE WAIL from the engine is EMENSE!! Climbing up to 100 was quicker than normal, and combined with the induction roar, if felt asif the front of the car was going to come off, felt like the wheels were trying to spin even when the car was going!!!

Best $90 I've spent on the car. Seriously.


http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/airbox.jpg

k&n oval filter + airbox top chopped off

Neo
20-05-2007, 04:41 PM
Time for an update!

Did a 0-100 test the other night, just on 9 seconds according to 2 videos.


Recently done -

Installed the last half of the sound system, two 400 watt pioneer subs in pioneer twin sub enclosure, 800 watt 4 channel american boss amp. Very happy with it, great undistorted bass, very loud.

SE Rear Seats, yet to do the fronts.

Some other little interior upgrades, will list these when I'm fully finished on them.

To come -

Fuel rail upgrade
RR/adjustable fuel pressure regulator

Mild cam..
New lifters
Heavy duty valve springs

Interior overhaul, going to give it a darker moody feel, rather than the 1st gen feel (new shifter and steering wheel, etc)

So, that's a rough guideline on what has and will be happening.

What you guys think?

smooth2
20-05-2007, 06:38 PM
dude where's the picys?? not a lot of good with out them:D i wanna see your install:) so if u get a chance post some for us.

Neo
20-05-2007, 11:21 PM
Seats -

http://www.joshuaburford.com/IMG_7074.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/IMG_7073.jpg

They looked a bit better after I cleaned them up.

Will take some pics of boot install and other interior stuff when I work on her tomorrow.

Neo
25-05-2007, 04:23 PM
Sooo.. I thought my rear 6x9's were good at providing bass, now I have the subs it's a billion times better.

Not only the bass though, now I can use the speakers for just mid and high end stuff, and the subs handle all the good stuff. Love it!

http://www.joshuaburford.com/boot.jpg

Hmm, I broke my center console, couldnt find one that was my interior colour so I got an elite one and painted the whole center console, lol. Let me know what you think.

http://www.joshuaburford.com/centerconsole.jpg

smooth2
25-05-2007, 04:30 PM
centre console look the goods :D i had to do the same but while on a road trip i managed to come across one in the colour i needed.
is your amp just sitting there?? maybe it's time to start playing with fiber glass and do your self a custom install:)

At least your magna seems to be getting better and better every time is see it.keep up the good work.

Neo
25-05-2007, 04:36 PM
centre console look the goods :D i had to do the same but while on a road trip i managed to come across one in the colour i needed.
is your amp just sitting there?? maybe it's time to start playing with fiber glass and do your self a custom install:)

At least your magna seems to be getting better and better every time is see it.keep up the good work.

Ta, nah, the amp aint going anywhere.

Yer I gotta do something with it, wonna recarpet and do a few things with it, that takes back seat for a while though. Doing some 'under bonnet' stuff atm. :P

I couldn't be more happy with the sound those subs put out, I can't even go passed volume 20/40, or else :confused:

MagdagnA
30-05-2007, 07:27 PM
Hey nice center console looks really good. I have been watching you do up your Wagon from the start has come a long way Im really impressed. Just starting to do mine I have a long way to go yet though.

Neo
31-05-2007, 10:39 AM
Heh, thanks.

When you look at it, I haven't been doing work on it long, started late last year, feels like ages though and I've learnt so much about cars.

Do you wagon up! Pitty you don't live in SA, I would help out etc.

mad lanté
01-06-2007, 03:51 AM
coming along nicely as always josh, considered doing more of the dash in black, would suit more in place then :)
also post up them vids yor

Neo
06-06-2007, 07:16 PM
Thanks heaps man!

Yes, I'm pretty sure I'll be doing the rest of the console. Not sure about the doors, but I'm sure I'll change my mind about the doors and end up doing the whole car over time. :)

Just having a rest from doing mods at the moment, getting sick of it, and the engine needs some attention, so that's what I'm spending my money on now. lol

Neo
11-08-2007, 09:59 PM
Well after getting defecting for riding too low, I've had to splash out on a lot of stuff to get the car up to scratch for regency (as seen in the other thread).

So these upgrade mods include.

Both Driveshafts and CVs being new
All 4 engine mounts being filled up with polyurathaine
GT bumper that included the front elante lip (finishes my elante kit collection)
Nolathane swaybar bushes
New water pump

Thats about all the upgrades, and basically got some tyres on the front and got windscreen chip repaired and replaced a few other things to make sure it was ship shape for regency, and to make it all look and sound stock.

After having the guy look over my poor magna for 45 minutes He passed me with flying colours. He even said the condition was great. :shock:


So after being defected for being too low, im not sure what im going to do suspension wise, not sure if I should get standards or some slightly lowered springs etc.

I'm slowly putting all my go fast parts back on and all, just thought I would give evenyone an update.

Big thanks to BCX7 and Mad Lanté for the help on the car getting it ready for regency.

Cheers all,
Josh

The Ranger 89
12-08-2007, 09:12 PM
I think its great that your doin up your car, im tryin to do mine up still saving for certain things:
Custom body kit (Click on avatar for pic)
Custom Black bonnet
Lukey extractors 2.5 mandrell bent With dual (lambo-like) "rockets" under the fuel tank
"Wolf ems" Piggy back ECU
And harder springs all round
Its nice to see you doin up the car you've got as apposed to the mainstream cars, kudos to you mate!

Lucifer
12-08-2007, 10:41 PM
i think its great that your doin up your car, im tryin to do mine up still saving for certain things, but its nice to see you doin up the car youve got as apposed to the mainstream cars kudos to you mate!
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: That chop is hillarious! Well done hahaha lol

Neo
17-08-2007, 04:35 PM
i think its great that your doin up your car, im tryin to do mine up still saving for certain things, but its nice to see you doin up the car youve got as apposed to the mainstream cars kudos to you mate!

Cheers, nice avatar by the way.. post some info about your car, it's a wagon and I'm interested now! :)

Neo
17-08-2007, 04:55 PM
Well, if anyone wants to know what a 17 year old water pump looks like.

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/oldwpump.jpg

Notice the blades? What blades you ask? Haha

Another difference in the pumps was the new one was easy to turn, the heat needle doesn't go anywhere near half during "normal" driving now.


Also, some new parts to go in.

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/kit.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/vrs.jpg

Just need a few more things before it all goes in. CAM, weld up FPR to another fuel rail for testing, etc.

Other than that, she's running nice. Not sure what im going to do about my comedy handling that I have to thank my stock springs for. :doubt:

Neo
18-09-2007, 05:34 PM
Well, after a little while of being put off by my first regency experience I've started doing small mods again.

- Wipers
- Grill
- Elite seats

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7332.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7333.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7323.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7326.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7336.jpg


Plans for the near future (1-2 weeks):

- Spraying front bar
- Addition of body kit parts
- New interior bits

Plans for the future (6-10 weeks):

- Engine overhaul
- Darkest legal tint
- Relowering

Posting the above mods list so that it keeps me focused on what I want to do, really want to get the tint done as it will be summer soon, makes sense! l0l

PeteW
18-09-2007, 07:22 PM
looking great, im focusing more under the bonnet at the moment got an iron or 2 in the fire but all good things take time (and money) lol

would like a howto on the balance shaft removal kit when done, been told you trade huge rattle for huge vibration

floater05
18-09-2007, 07:31 PM
iv got one word for that... awesomeness:D

Neo
18-09-2007, 07:31 PM
looking great, im focusing more under the bonnet at the moment got an iron or 2 in the fire but all good things take time (and money) lol

would like a howto on the balance shaft removal kit when done, been told you trade huge rattle for huge vibration

Thanks, and yes I have a few under bonnet mods coming along soon too. :cool:

I'll be sure to take lots of pics and make a guide, as I'll be looking to have my engine out of the car for a few days at least. I only have a small guide to go off at the moment, or I might just see if I can get some help with it from other members that have done it.

With the vibration, I think it's all down to the engine mounts that you use, I have solid ones so I think I'll be hit with some vibration. :P

thebeast.
19-09-2007, 07:36 AM
bloody hell, i cant decide whats nicer the inside or out???
so clean

MagdagnA
21-09-2007, 08:31 AM
Keep up the good work neo. I like the effort ur putting into the old girl. Its really looking sweet as. Yeah get some tints makes it look great and in summer should cut the heat down a lot.

Neo
21-09-2007, 12:57 PM
Heh, thanks guys. It's getting there slowly.

I've done my 1-2 week plan already just about. :|

So, I'll porbably be getting it tinted sooner, week or 2 maybe, I'll have more pics in a day or 2. :D

Neo
23-09-2007, 12:44 PM
Quick update -

Some of you may know that I swapped a blue GT bumper onto my car before I went to regency a while ago, it's been in my plans to paint it for a while and I finally got it done.

Before

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7277.jpg

During

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7343.jpg

My little friend that helped me, haha

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7344.jpg

After

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7348.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7360.jpg

floater05
23-09-2007, 06:40 PM
that really does look great. looks brand new

carcycle
24-09-2007, 08:46 AM
Beautiful Work!! :)

Youd have to have one of the nicest Magna wagons in existense now?

Do you have a spare grille? Maybe you could try painting one white and seeing how it looks? Im not sure, i like the black one because it very different and i dont think ive ever seen that before and makes it your own, but with the white wipers, mirrors etc, a white one may look the part?

Its not hard to do atleast, just a few screws, you could give it a go and put it up to a vote :P

Cant tell fully though, coz it does seriously look really good!! Oh and i like the interior, keep up the photos for us

Alex.

Neo
02-10-2007, 08:22 PM
that really does look great. looks brand new

Cheers, I'm sure you'll get a chance to see it while it's in its prime when you come down during this month.


Beautiful Work!! :)

Youd have to have one of the nicest Magna wagons in existense now?

Do you have a spare grille? Maybe you could try painting one white and seeing how it looks? Im not sure, i like the black one because it very different and i dont think ive ever seen that before and makes it your own, but with the white wipers, mirrors etc, a white one may look the part?

Its not hard to do atleast, just a few screws, you could give it a go and put it up to a vote :P

Cant tell fully though, coz it does seriously look really good!! Oh and i like the interior, keep up the photos for us

Alex.

Cheers for the idea, and yes I got another grill to do the mod, the stock one was chrome and I think the black goes better with the new bumper (as I used black bumper prime on the black part). And it also looks good for my next mod on the grill, new badge. :D

I just don't think chrome or white will look any good for the grill, cause the back colour is a lighter colour, chrome grill would look very nice on blue or black car instead. :)

I've been on holidays for a little while now, so I've been working on some other little goodies that I can strap to the ECU, She also goes into the shop tomorrow for darkest legal tint, + some more on the rear windows as they're stationary and you're allowed to do them darker. :P

Will have some more pics soon.

Lucifer
02-10-2007, 09:56 PM
Do you have a spare grille? Maybe you could try painting one white and seeing how it looks? Im not sure, i like the black one because it very different and i dont think ive ever seen that before and makes it your own, but with the white wipers, mirrors etc, a white one may look the part?
Black provides a nice contrast to the front end, I feel that a white grille will make it look too one dimensional... It'll lose its depth and aggressiveness.

Neo
04-10-2007, 10:55 AM
Black provides a nice contrast to the front end, I feel that a white grille will make it look too one dimensional... It'll lose its depth and aggressiveness.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was trying to say, ta lol

Darkest legal, even darker tint on the rear stationary 'cargo' area.

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/tint1.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/tint2.jpg

floater05
07-10-2007, 04:01 PM
Cheers, I'm sure you'll get a chance to see it while it's in its prime when you come down during this month.

yeah, im really looking forward to it.

red_wagon_tp
25-11-2007, 11:42 AM
Beautiful Work!! :)

Youd have to have one of the nicest Magna wagons in existense now?

Do you have a spare grille? Maybe you could try painting one white and seeing how it looks? Im not sure, i like the black one because it very different and i dont think ive ever seen that before and makes it your own, but with the white wipers, mirrors etc, a white one may look the part?

Its not hard to do atleast, just a few screws, you could give it a go and put it up to a vote :P

Cant tell fully though, coz it does seriously look really good!! Oh and i like the interior, keep up the photos for us

Alex.







i don't think he ahs seen my magna yet so that would have to make it 2 of the nicest magna's around

ts3.0
25-11-2007, 01:43 PM
^^and he is modest too^^

red_wagon_tp
25-11-2007, 01:56 PM
lmao
yeah very modest

Neo
26-11-2007, 09:19 AM
^^and he is modest too^^

lol

Might as well post an update as there has been some posts in here. :P


Small update -

New Headunit (details when I get home)
Galant GSR auto shifter
AFR gauge (details when I get home)
Door inserts
Central locking & Carvox alarm


Near future MODs -

17x7 mags
Flowed throttle body

When I get the money MODs -

Port and polished intake
Worked M6/M7 head
Sigma rocker gear and CAM grind

All that to go on while I rebuild the motor when I'm on holidays (a month from now).

floater05
26-11-2007, 02:44 PM
have you got remote keyless entry?

Neo
26-11-2007, 04:12 PM
have you got remote keyless entry?

Indeed. :badgrin:

Neo
01-12-2007, 09:53 AM
Pics

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7565.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7571.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7577.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7601.jpg

Just in case anyone wants to know what the inside of a 1st gen muffler looks like, count how many loops the exhaust gases have to do, heh.

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/IMG_7491.jpg

smooth2
01-12-2007, 10:45 AM
looking good neo just need to do something about the back:D

Neo
01-12-2007, 10:58 AM
looking good neo just need to do something about the back:D

Don't worry, that will be happening next week :)

floater05
01-12-2007, 03:15 PM
man your car looks tank as, specially with the front on shot showing off your rims.... 'drool...':P

Neo
08-12-2007, 10:07 AM
man your car looks tank as, specially with the front on shot showing off your rims.... 'drool...':P

haha thanks, 'tank as' :P

Update -

* Flowed throttle body
* Painted brakes and hubs

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/brakes.jpg

Next week -

New lifters
Port and polish intake
Going to get a good condition M7 head that I can work :P

robbieins2
23-12-2007, 07:11 AM
']A cheap mod to do would be to spend $20 and redo all the chrome strip around your car, It is sort of unsettling the lines a bit....Re-doing the chrome will make it look so much better. :)


where can I get this done?

robbieins2
23-12-2007, 07:37 AM
O BTW the car looks hott as you sorta inspireing me to work on mine again.

great job mate

TZABOY
23-12-2007, 08:14 AM
are you going to paint he A pillars? I like how you've left some black trims through the car as it splits it up very nicely but the pillars need to be done.

great looking car mate!

red_wagon_tp
23-12-2007, 03:46 PM
heya neo nice work so far on the magna ......mate a nice set of cross drilled would look sweet on the front of that like mine i got the crossed drilled on mine mate ...... mine is coming along heaps as now more work i just got the front lower skirt the other day for the front bumper look's good as when i put it on .... i wanna make the wagon lower like it sit's nice but just i think it could go lower.....i got the 17x7 on mine ......just got my hand's on the se or elite interiour ie rear seats with head rest's and the better front seats ..... i am slowely in the process on converting the interiour i got a 15 inch flip down monitior going in next week for the dvd player and looking at another 2 12inch sub's for the rear that will make 4 12's in the boot............. i think you and me wil have the best 2 first gen wagon's ever lol

LeGiOnAiR
23-12-2007, 05:45 PM
I miss my first gen now lol


Neo you prick, stop having such a nice car :P

robbieins2
23-12-2007, 07:55 PM
Man! Just took it out for a proper drive after doing a little airbox mod with the angle grinder this morning.

I bought a second airbox from upi and took the top of it off cause I thought it might = less restriction.

Turned the stereo off for a change and put the window down, opened the throttle up past 2000 revs in 1st gear, and MY GODS THE WAIL from the engine is EMENSE!! Climbing up to 100 was quicker than normal, and combined with the induction roar, if felt asif the front of the car was going to come off, felt like the wheels were trying to spin even when the car was going!!!

Best $90 I've spent on the car. Seriously.


http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/airbox.jpg

k&n oval filter + airbox top chopped off


hey mate would you be able to go through in detail how you were able to do this? I can sorta see what you have done but would have no chance attempting it without help. thanks man

Madmagna
23-12-2007, 08:25 PM
where can I get this done?

Come and see me when you are ready mate, have done more first and second gens than I care to remember lol

Neo
24-12-2007, 12:37 PM
O BTW the car looks hott as you sorta inspireing me to work on mine again.

great job mate

Excellent, great to hear that I'm making people wonna mod their 1st gens.


are you going to paint he A pillars? I like how you've left some black trims through the car as it splits it up very nicely but the pillars need to be done.

great looking car mate!

Heh, thanks. In due time I'll get it all done, just putting some money into the engine at the moment. :)


heya neo nice work so far on the magna ......mate a nice set of cross drilled would look sweet on the front of that like mine i got the crossed drilled on mine mate ...... mine is coming along heaps as now more work i just got the front lower skirt the other day for the front bumper look's good as when i put it on .... i wanna make the wagon lower like it sit's nice but just i think it could go lower.....i got the 17x7 on mine ......just got my hand's on the se or elite interiour ie rear seats with head rest's and the better front seats ..... i am slowely in the process on converting the interiour i got a 15 inch flip down monitior going in next week for the dvd player and looking at another 2 12inch sub's for the rear that will make 4 12's in the boot............. i think you and me wil have the best 2 first gen wagon's ever lol

Cheers mate, yeah I wonna upgrade the brakes after I've done the next stage of engine mods. But I dont think I'll go cross drilled as they're more prone to cracking, prolly go slotted front and rear for a bit of extra stopping power.

Actually I got to test them out the other week on a cruise, there was a pill up on a blind corner, good to see the grip from the mags/tyres and brakes all work to pull up damn fast as they are.


I miss my first gen now lol


Neo you prick, stop having such a nice car :P

lmao, it's only going to get a lot nicer, sorry :P





As for the car.

I have sigma rocker gear ready to go in and another TP cam that I'll be getting reground, just need to deside on specs.

Have done a port and polish on throttle body to intake chamber, and intake chamber to runners, also flowed the throttle body. All I can say on these mods is wow, I was surprised at how much lower down power and response off the line it gave. Was driving around shortly after when it was warmed up and I remember where I was going down a small hill area when all the weight was on the front wheels and I planted it from 20km and the wheels just spun. :|

Also thinking about taking the balance shafts out, heard from a guy that it dynoed an extra 15hp at the wheels just by taking them out of a TR magna, more when combined with other mods. Anyone that's done the mod please leave some feedback for me.

Neo
25-12-2007, 10:18 AM
http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/flowedthrottle.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/plenumported.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/resprayed.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/rockers+cam.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/magna/lowered.jpg

Neo
05-02-2008, 01:20 PM
Not much as happened lately to the car, new wind screen and a few other little things, only things that have made the car better (so none mods) :P

Was wondering if anyone has ever removed the middle resonator from their 1st gen exhaust system before, I'm thinking about it, just wondering how much louder it will get? :)

Aströn Boy
05-02-2008, 01:53 PM
Not much as happened lately to the car, new wind screen and a few other little things, only things that have made the car better (so none mods) :P

Was wondering if anyone has ever removed the middle resonator from their 1st gen exhaust system before, I'm thinking about it, just wondering how much louder it will get? :)
not much if you have the stock rear muffler.
when i had all my exhaust redone on the wagon, went extracotrs, 2.25" mandrel, HFC, then 5" Canon, hated the loud ass sound and kinda of turbine whiz when i backed off the throttle, so added a hotdog, did the trick.
Depending on how you wanna go I wouldnt advise to hot a cam or exhaust system, my car acts like my fto mivec, nothing down low, and hello up high, i start band at 3krpm and wind up to just over 6700 which i then force to next gear, don;t dare go above that, even though the car will keep going :redface:

And thats on stock carb. with only an intake mod, hot ass cam, sigma gear and the zorst as mentioned above.

BCX7
05-02-2008, 09:02 PM
And thats on stock carb. with only an intake mod, hot ass cam, sigma gear and the zorst as mentioned above.

cam did that to mine as well with the stock carby.

wait till i get that weber tricked with the TPS for ya, then its party time down low and up high.

Aströn Boy
06-02-2008, 08:50 AM
cam did that to mine as well with the stock carby.

wait till i get that weber tricked with the TPS for ya, then its party time down low and up high.
YES, so hurry up :P lol

Neo
09-02-2008, 09:58 AM
not much if you have the stock rear muffler.
when i had all my exhaust redone on the wagon, went extracotrs, 2.25" mandrel, HFC, then 5" Canon, hated the loud ass sound and kinda of turbine whiz when i backed off the throttle, so added a hotdog, did the trick.
Depending on how you wanna go I wouldnt advise to hot a cam or exhaust system, my car acts like my fto mivec, nothing down low, and hello up high, i start band at 3krpm and wind up to just over 6700 which i then force to next gear, don;t dare go above that, even though the car will keep going :redface:

And thats on stock carb. with only an intake mod, hot ass cam, sigma gear and the zorst as mentioned above.

Hmmm, turbine wizz, I like the sound of that :P

I've had first hand experience with the cam stuff as I've been in BCX7's car, pretty much nearly took off when it got up high in the rev range.

I'm saving for a 2nd car, daily driver, then I'll be able to do the nuts mods to the TP, and just drive it on weekends and to cruises etc.

Hmmm, and what are you two talking about now? :P

BiG 4 CyL
09-02-2008, 11:27 AM
lookin vrey nice mate, top effort! what exactly did u do to the throttle body? PM me if u can coz im pullin everything apart soon and have been lookin into porting for higher flow, thanx mate!

Neo
14-02-2008, 09:57 PM
lookin vrey nice mate, top effort! what exactly did u do to the throttle body? PM me if u can coz im pullin everything apart soon and have been lookin into porting for higher flow, thanx mate!

There's some pics a few posts back, and read your pm :)