hi there,

i have a tr 2.6l carby engine and i want to pick up either a reco 'd efi engine
from the wreakers for $1200 or a good second hand (100,000kms) engine for
$600. A guy wants $800 for all the computer stuff to hook up to the efi.(i have to
do my self.)

Does Anyone know if i can get it cheaper for the computer stuff or if they have it themselves . also i've read the efi conversion doc which is great, but has anyone put a efi engine in the done the other conection parts after instead of taking out the carby.

Thanks heeps

You might be better off buying a complete car and swapping the engine and EFI from that. Sometimes you see them on ebay with a good engine but busted gearbox (especially autos) or with rust or body damage. Anything like that usually goes for $500 or less, especially if unregistered.

I'm wary of engines or gearboxes from wreckers. It is sometimes a complete gamble whether they are any better than your old one.
I got caught once with an exchange auto box for a Jag. The one they sold me was a pile of junk. Fortunately I was able to combine the good bits from it with my old one to make one working box. I then reassembled another with all the broken bits to give back as exchange. I bet they flogged it off to the next unsuspecting customer. Grrr! It still makes my blood boil.

I think $800 is too much for the EFI computer stuff. You could get a whole car for less than that - a beat-up one perhaps but sufficient to strip the bits from.

You might be better off buying a complete car and swapping the engine and EFI from that. Sometimes you see them on ebay with a good engine but busted gearbox (especially autos) or with rust or body damage. Anything like that usually goes for $500 or less, especially if unregistered.

I'm wary of engines or gearboxes from wreckers. It is sometimes a complete gamble whether they are any better than your old one.
I got caught once with an exchange auto box for a Jag. The one they sold me was a pile of junk. Fortunately I was able to combine the good bits from it with my old one to make one working box. I then reassembled another with all the broken bits to give back as exchange. I bet they flogged it off to the next unsuspecting customer. Grrr! It still makes my blood boil.

I think $800 is too much for the EFI computer stuff. You could get a whole car for less than that - a beat-up one perhaps but sufficient to strip the bits from.

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Could almost buy a whole car, in working condition, with road worthy, EFI for that price

there are other things to consider when switching from carb to efi... i have done this... on my tr. u need to change the fuel pump this is the worst job in the world and u also have to change ur engine mounts to move the engine forward in the engine bay... so that means g/box mount also.

This conversion is a fairly easy conversion to do.

If you are attached to your car, shich by your pics I would say you are, you have a few options.

Get a wrecked TR/s and convert the appropiate items, engine monts, fuel lines, pump and filters, wiring etc.

You could also go the next step and get a wrecked verada and do a v6 conversion. This is practically the same as above only you have also to change the lh mount on the body. This sounds like a daunting task but in reality is not. You then also get to use the v6 front end running gear which will also improve handling.

Really depends if it is worth it to you or if you want to pick up a neat car with blown motor and use your current block/head and drop this and your mods into the doner car.

OR you could buy KB's car and do the full conversion!

I'd upgrade to a V6 like Madmagna said, the Astron 2's are just gutless :( I'd upgrade my engine, but I'd rather buy a 3rd gen.

KB's DOHC Magna is sold too :P

astron autos are gutless not the manuals

i beg to differ. if all the running gear is maintained and serviced they have good torqure. my gf love the looks and other blokes face when she take off from the lights and they get left behing till 60kms cos there expecting it to be gutless. the lastest one was 2 guys in a vn commy pulled up beside her reving it to show off, the lights went green (she had the power button) and off she went foot to the floor 5000rpm up to 60kms and had half a lenght on them ( ofcourse after 60 she'd have no chance and she never goes over the seep llimt but loves to get there quick as possible) but when they reached the next lights the one in the passenger hung out the window to ask whats under the bonnet . nothing she says all stock here. sure there not rockets but the torqure is better than most realise:D

that is the main thing tho. the cars are so old now that the autos need reconditioning. if they havent they eat up to much power. a friends mums one a first gen elite would spin wheels of the lights in the dry. the astrons are good they just need a few mods to help them. wish they tried to get more vavles or twin cam. mmmmm

i beg to differ. if all the running gear is maintained and serviced they have good torqure. my gf love the looks and other blokes face when she take off from the lights and they get left behing till 60kms cos there expecting it to be gutless. the lastest one was 2 guys in a vn commy pulled up beside her reving it to show off, the lights went green (she had the power button) and off she went foot to the floor 5000rpm up to 60kms and had half a lenght on them ( ofcourse after 60 she'd have no chance and she never goes over the seep llimt but loves to get there quick as possible) but when they reached the next lights the one in the passenger hung out the window to ask whats under the bonnet . nothing she says all stock here. sure there not rockets but the torqure is better than most realise:D

lol it's better if you spin the wheels till 90 then chirp 3rd @ 110km/h... i rule

Along this line of thinking, if you're bothering to change engine mount's, you might as well go DOHC

Yeh guys i've done it... YES!!!!!

Over the weekend and monday as well, i decided to do the efi conversion.

i bought a donor car for $250 of a mate (Stuffed Piston) and absolutley stripped everything
i needed to do the conversion and more. stripping it took about 3.5days total.
The main reason i went ahead and did this was mainly becos i needed to do my timing chain.
When doing the timing chain u have to 'drop' the engine down to make it a whole lot easier.

Anyway not knowing exactly how to do it, i asked magna buff to help. He said yes to the big job. With the help of my dad Ziggy, stagma and Magna buff we started the job on sat the 3rd.
To start with we started stripping the carby gear off and anything in the way to get to the timing chain. As we found out There was no saftey pin on my cv's and my cv's were rooted. (Thankfully i took the two off the other car)
My Water Pump was so coroded that is broke into 3 or 4 peices as soon as well undid some nuts.

(more soon)

so where's the conversion pics hey:D and pics of the finished product.
bet u noticed a hell of a difference.

next thing was draining everything else Oil and gear box oil, Taking all the hoses and blets off.
Compresser was also taken off but not Disconected otherwise would of lost the gas. Sump was taken off(i needed a new gasket anyway.), After taking everything else off that was needed to come off, the engine was dropped.

After looking at the new head(m-7, Carby on was m-5) we found a bent valve. Buffy took a valve off my old head to find about 7mm of carbon build up on the top of my old valve.
Anyway after cleaning it he put it in the new head and 'lapped' it in the head.
I also found the reason my engine was blowing smoke was becos of the stem seals were fu**ed and Buffy replaced them.

After i cleaned off the gasket on the timing chain area, stagma and Buffy started on the chains while i took off the fuel pump and replaced it with the efi one. when that was done i started taking out the dash. when the Chains were done it was just about dark, so we called it a day and drove in my dads car back to the gold Coast.

The next day we Started putting the engine back together (Stagma anf Buffy Put the engine back up when we left) ie. After we degressered everything we took off we put the sump back on, compressor back, and the head. i learnt how to put the head back on with the torque wrench(thanks dad and Buffy). Then Stagma and i pulled the main part of the dash out...
and pulled the new engine loom through. put the ecu in its place(thanks ol fart for the right place) and conected everything to it.

Dad and buffy put the inlet manifold in (the Plenum) and put it together while stagma conected all the engine loom. After all the work we had done we relised that we had to go to the wreakers and get the engine management loom(next to the battery) becos on the tp-tm u dont need to replace it. on the tr-ts u need to becos of the efi runing the engine now. and we also needed a fuel pump from a tp. We didnt have the equipment to use the tr one

Only Problem was that it was a sunday and we thought that abc was closed so that 'Blew the wind out of us' even though the project was almost clomplete.
By this stage all we needed was the loom and the fuel pump. eveything was put bac in execpt the dash and that loom
So we called it a day. and drove home. Stagma and i had to have a 'sic' day to complete the job. on the monday.

good old stagma and buffy. now there true magna enthusiusts (bs). good to hear it went pretty smooth. top blokes don't know many other that would go out of the way too help so many ppl. i recon they should open a magna repairs shop. paint and panel buffy, electric stagma and the mechanic both:D

So its monday and we went to the wreakers to get the shiz and after 1and half hours we manage to strip off the main loom and take the fuel supply of a tp magna.

Drove back to Buffs and replaced the old loom in the car. after about 2 hours things were good all we had to do was put the dash back in and hook it all up. at about 8pm the dash was in the loom was in, headlights and drivers front guard was back in all was in cept the bonnet.

Stagma was sorting out the loom to put it in 'park' as i took off a auto loom and my car is a manual. He sort the revercing light as well. so it came down to it and we were staring the car but we found the at super cheep sold me carby fuel lines insted of efi line even though i was specific.. any way it would have been done on monday but the shops were closed so i couldnt buy it.

so anyway buff anf stagma sorted it for me and i picked it up on wed.

any way on the way back i noticed the car is so much better!!!!!!!!!!......

in the carby i would rev up to 3500rpm and no more power at all!!!!!!

now i acidently go up to 5000 easy. cos its got a reconditioned head, new cvs, fuel injection and ehaust. so much torque now

Once again thank you Stagma and Magna Buff, and my dad.

I'll post up some pics tonite or tomoro. But YEH its done!

sorry it's taken so long but here's some of the pics.

here's some work in progress, stagma, and my dad, and the water pump broke off into the block

1.Stagma, buff and me having a break
2.interia before taking it out
3.the engine droped down
4.the old timing chain.
5.absolutley fu**ed water pump, and corroded

1.Stagma, buff and me having a break
2.interia before taking it out
3.the engine droped down
4.the old timing chain.
5.absolutley fu**ed water pump, and corroded

sorry pic didnt load be for

i'll post more tomorrow

1.the pistions
2.the old valve out of the carby(crustations on it like 7mm!!!) and the new one
3.getting the gasget off the sump.
4.New timing chains on!!!
5.The complete dash out.

1.The new head on with the stem seals done.
2.head and plenum on (nearly finished)
3.Fuel pump replaced
4.Stagma and Buff (champs) lol
5.Me (filthy)lol

1. engine with most of it complete.
2.my dad
3.Finished product. EFI conversion

there's all the pics(theres more but yeh) any comments?

Next on to lowering ect.

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28847&stc=1&d=1172133592

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28848&stc=1&d=1172133592

good work!, hope its still going strong and yes lowering is a must... for any car :D

btw thos links don't work lol

Good read mate!
Good to see some of the 2nd gens having another life in them still
Congrats to all of ya's

Yeh Congrats on a job well done, she plays a better note now too? :badgrin:

I went through your carby and head from the original - set up off your car

not adding the CV joints , water pump ,and chains

the carby has not been working properly for sometime and would have needed a full rebuild including vaccume lines and vaccume pots secondary frozen and first stage only half working

the head was warped and all the valves were burnt out none of them were seating properly

if you had waited much longer to repair your car -- as a carby set up

It would have cost a whole lot more $$$$ than the conversion

and you would not have been a happy magna owner

you made the right decision :thumbsup:

nice pictures - ziggy looked happy (young bloke in orange overalls)

I went through your carby and head from the original - set up off your car

not adding the CV joints , water pump ,and chains

the carby has not been working properly for sometime and would have needed a full rebuild including vaccume lines and vaccume pots secondary frozen and first stage only half working

the head was warped and all the valves were burnt out none of them were seating properly

if you had waited much longer to repair your car -- as a carby set up

It would have cost a whole lot more $$$$ than the conversion

and you would not have been a happy magna owner

you made the right decision :thumbsup:

nice pictures - ziggy looked happy (young bloke in orange overalls)

Holy s**t, thanks buff. so it was a good idea:D . fuvvfth. lol
i always thought my car was running like sh*t, now it goes so much better!!!!!

Thanks once agian for all your help and chris's too.

the car runs really well. i'll be up there soon to say hi and pick up the parker conectors.

as for me i learnt a lot about cars. The funny this was that my radiator is a plastic top one and the top lip that connects to the hose broke off, so now i have bout 15mm lip, till i put the radiator on from the donor car. anywho.

thanks amc and everyone for helping me put a thought in my mind to fix my car.

Good to see members working together, good photos too. :)