a stationwagon 380.. i think theyd look pretty cool. what do you guys think?

The rears MAKE the station wagon.. so needs sum good rear detail IMO... sumn like..

http://www.tpaktopc.net/images/mitsubishi/Mitsubishi%20380-2%20with%20bucket.jpg

No one buys station wagons so they decided not to make them anymore. How many VE station wagons do you think they've made?

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No one buys station wagons so they decided not to make them anymore. How many VE station do you think they've made?

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Apparently VE Stationwagon will be funded for production once VE Commodore sedan and Statesman start to return some of their $1,000,000,000 investment.

As to the Original poster - have a look at the Endeavour SUV from Mitsubishi in the US.

As to whether MMAL would build one - no

If done right, a wagon can look sweet. I'ld hit this...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/Forrie/cars/300CTouring.jpg

It's a pity a lot of manufacturers are always putting the wagon variants in 2nd place. The major problem are fleet buyers who are now buying 1 tonne vehicles to replace wagons because of the greater tax offset, the stupid government don't see wagons as a potential commercial vehicle :(

For me I'd prefer a wagon over a ute because of its car-like capabilities and comforts whilst having the versatility of the cargo space. However these days it tends towards 80% personal and 20% work use, and when its at work, its at work with loads of equipment in the back.

I've considered having ute for work purposes and a sedan/small car for personal purposes but its just not financially viable having to pay twice the amount of rego and insurance and maintenance.

No one buys station wagons so they decided not to make them anymore. How many VE station wagons do you think they've made?

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That's a little close-minded. How many VE utes have they made? I'm sure nobody wants sport utilities anymore either.

That's a little close-minded. How many VE utes have they made? I'm sure nobody wants sport utilities anymore either.
I'm just saying, these days there's not as big a "big sedan" market even, letalone a market for wagons generally because of the SUV craze. There'll always be a need for utes for tradies and the such, but the main use for a wagon is to lug a bunch of crap around in aswell as your 2.4 children, and most of those families are buying SUVs instead.

those sport utes piss me off. utes shouldn't be sports car, but there not half has bad as **** ass sport 4wds:rant:

i got no problem with wagons, but if they don't sell whats the point in wasting money putting a wagon variant on the market

but the main use for a wagon is to lug a bunch of crap around in aswell as your 2.4 children, and most of those families are buying SUVs instead.Wagons are primarily used by fleets that require a lot of equipment (or high value equipment) to be hauled around with the added security of being able to lock the freight up in the car, or other flexibilities, such as an additional seat if required.

The days of families buying wagons has been dead since the mid 1990s. I think only 3 or 5% of Magna and Verada wagon buyers in 2004 were private purchases, the rest going to fleets.

thanks for all the information, has opened my eyes a little, but id definitely prefer a wagon over a sedan.. and to whoever posted the chrysler s/w, thats exactly right, if done right they look damn awesome. i definitely like the s/w c300 over the sedan

Wagons are primarily used by fleets that require a lot of equipment (or high value equipment) to be hauled around with the added security of being able to lock the freight up in the car, or other flexibilities, such as an additional seat if required.
Is that true? Why wouldn't they just use a van?

a stationwagon 380.. i think theyd look pretty cool. what do you guys think?I'd like to see one, but I probably wouldn't buy one :doubt: because...the lancer wagons look like boxes and the rear end of the 380 is too stunted for me.

If they made a 380 wagon it probably wouldn't have as much space as my TF does....but I'm drooling over a TJ Sportswagon that's out of my reach.:cry:

Is that true? Why wouldn't they just use a van?
Potentially LPG, additional seats, presentation, comfort for long distance driving, RESALE. Eg Danka were running a fleet of about 300 Magna and Camry wagons for photocopy repairs.

I'd like to see one, but I probably wouldn't buy one :doubt: because...the lancer wagons look like boxes and the rear end of the 380 is too stunted for me.

If they made a 380 wagon it probably wouldn't have as much space as my TF does....but I'm drooling over a TJ Sportswagon that's out of my reach.:cry:

i think if they made a 380 s/w, the back end would look a lot like bmw 5 series s/w.. the tj sportswagons are definitely pretty sexy though

as someone who owns a wagon i can safely say that there is definetly a market for wagons, cos everyone says "yeah i wish i had a wagon for the practicality, but they are just so boring looking so i bought a sedan instead"

ie - build a sexy station wagon and the sales for station wagons will return. Thats what the big pile of market research at holden is saying hence why they are developing a VE station wagon that will share very little in the way of syling with the VE commodore sedan, ie its styling will be designed from the outset as a station wagon. Kinda think of a low riding SUV with a bit of a more sporty style to it and your halfway there

Is that true? Why wouldn't they just use a van?

I use my wagon for work. I didn't go for a van or 1 tonne Ute because of the simple reason.... I only want ONE car!

Aussie wagons have always been ahead of the world, from the AP5 Valiants/FJ Holden's to the TM Magna that was designed by Tonsley Park. Look at the GN Sigma that was "modernised" to cater for the wagon market at a time when Mitsubishi was on it's knees in the 80's.

I'm sure if the people in Adelaide thought they could sell wagons in numbers we would have a wagon, either in 380 form or a "modernised" Magna, ala the GN.

I dont see any point to sports utes. My work has a vehicle lease program with holden, I swear to god there are at least 20 either storm,s or ss utes there, and not one owner would even think about putting anything at all in the back incase the car got scratched or dirty.
I saw a c300 station wagon the other day on 22's damn it looked good.

Wagons are good for those transporting things oviosuly, couriers, painters&tradies, bands etc all use them

I dont know how well a 380 Wagon would sell, but if they limited the number to a certain amount im sure they will sell without any problems

Another major wagon user it the police, I see alot of holden wagons being used by them, we have all seen the sedan 380s in police cars, why not a few wagons?

Also for holidays and surfing is where wagons come in handy aswell, I think one day ill have a wagon and a sedan.

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=366286&postcount=90

How good is that!

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=366286&postcount=90

How good is that!

Man thats sweet as ,shame it'll probably never happen.:nuts:

We'll see a 380 AWD long before any wagon variant.

Yeah I'd love to see a wagon, even better, an AWD wagon. Although back in reality I'd settle for some decent advertising and sales :(.

Also on a side note, I have it on very good authority(mech eng lecturer) that the chief engineer at MMAL has put in his resignation, so unless MMAL do something drastic I don't see any Mitsu production in Aus in 10 years:cry:.

Another example of a wagon done well. The Dodge Magnum.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/Forrie/cars/dodgemagnum.jpg

Another example of a wagon done well. The Dodge Magnum.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/Forrie/cars/dodgemagnum.jpg
Yeah thats just the 300C with a better looking front.

Also on a side note, I have it on very good authority(mech eng lecturer) that the chief engineer at MMAL has put in his resignation, so unless MMAL do something drastic I don't see any Mitsu production in Aus in 10 years:cry:.

Well looking at MMA's current position it maybe a good thing.

Somethings not right at MMA, a few changes might just shake the place up enough to start them dealing with the issues of why are the public walking away. Boring cars is equaling boring sales. We were all disappointed when the 380 came out, great car pity about the sheet metal. Lets face it MMA haven't shaken the Australian Motor scene since the TM replaced the old GJ Sigma.

Don't mourn any changes at MMA, they need some people in their that can get some serious excitement back into Mitsubishi cars built in Australia.

Well looking at MMA's current position it maybe a good thing.

Somethings not right at MMA, a few changes might just shake the place up enough to start them dealing with the issues of why are the public walking away. Boring cars is equaling boring sales. We were all disappointed when the 380 came out, great car pity about the sheet metal. Lets face it MMA haven't shaken the Australian Motor scene since the TM replaced the old GJ Sigma.

Don't mourn any changes at MMA, they need some people in their that can get some serious excitement back into Mitsubishi cars built in Australia.
Yep agreed completely. I read an article which stated pretty much this exact scenario but it was within the Toyota organisation. The articled basically said that the Australian part of the Toyota firm were all fired or moved to make way for a bunch of new people who are hungry to take things forward instead of being stagnant, hence why we have a TRD onslaught coming.

that doesn't look bad at all, yeap i pay that one as with the 300c wagon

I too use my wagon for work. I'm sure there is still a good business market for wagons....my company has just bought 25 hilux duel cab 2wd's V6 with canopys...we had corolla wagon's but they were just too small. I wonder how many wagons Ford are selling at the moment, they are the only company selling a large wagon at the moment. (unless you want to buy an out of date VY wagon).
I'd buy a 380 wagon tomorrow if they brought one out.

Potentially LPG, additional seats, presentation, comfort for long distance driving, RESALE. Eg Danka were running a fleet of about 300 Magna and Camry wagons for photocopy repairs.

Canon are still running a large fleet of magna's in Melbourne mainly for photocopier servicing.

Somethings not right at MMA, a few changes might just shake the place up enough to start them dealing with the issues of why are the public walking away. Boring cars is equaling boring sales. We were all disappointed when the 380 came out, great car pity about the sheet metal. Lets face it MMA haven't shaken the Australian Motor scene since the TM replaced the old GJ Sigma.

Don't mourn any changes at MMA, they need some people in their that can get some serious excitement back into Mitsubishi cars built in Australia.

True about the boring cars, all the good sellers currently aren't conservatively designed theyre aggressive.

The TE was wheels car of the year and there are billions of 2nd gens on the roads... but a shake up in the australian motor scene was the new rwd v8 coming out, not to get off topic but notice the VE ad, "the new rwd commo".

The cheif engineer seems to be doing the best job though mechanically these cars are brilliant. Stylists though... dunno they're doing well on the other models.

And also thank you for showing me the 2nd ugliest car i've ever seen, it's 2nd to the 300C wagon.

for many many years mitsubishi has been the provider of magna wagons for canon australia, recently they lost the contract as they can no longer provide garanteed 5 years from now that they will continue to have wagons. my step father is somewhat upset about this as he has been driving a magna wagon since 1998 and now is forced to own some dual cab ute, no luxuries there....

Well looking at MMA's current position it maybe a good thing.

Somethings not right at MMA, a few changes might just shake the place up enough to start them dealing with the issues of why are the public walking away. Boring cars is equaling boring sales. We were all disappointed when the 380 came out, great car pity about the sheet metal. Lets face it MMA haven't shaken the Australian Motor scene since the TM replaced the old GJ Sigma.

Don't mourn any changes at MMA, they need some people in their that can get some serious excitement back into Mitsubishi cars built in Australia.
Yeah I agree with you there, but I don't think it's the engineer's that's the problem. A lot of the reviews have said that this car has a 'fresh and young feel'.

I think it's more whoever is running the marketing side of things that is letting the team down. One way of getting cheap advertising would be to run a competition through the uni's and Tafe's to see who can come up with the best ad.lol

Yeah I agree with you there, but I don't think it's the engineer's that's the problem. A lot of the reviews have said that this car has a 'fresh and young feel'.


Engineering has very little to do with the giving the car a 'fresh and young feel'. It's the overpaid designers who usually make tracks after projects are finished that are responsible for the aesthetics of the car. Engineers get given a set of requirements and constraints and are told just to make it work regardless if they don't agree with what they are doing. Typically it's the poor bloody engineer that get crucified when things go pear shaped. Tom Phillips knew the right time to get out I tell ya.

no need to read this, same garbage thrown up

Congratulations valaxy, you get the redundant post of the year award!

Heard it all before.

Congratulations valaxy, you get the redundant post of the year award!

Heard it all before.

lol so true, why are there so many magna's on the roads?, they're fwd!

It can't be that the stereotypical bogan who likes to take the family car drifting doesn't represent much of the market can it?? With a car that heavy it easily handles 175kw through the front wheels.

Only the performance variants need to be awd nowadays.

Congratulations valaxy, you get the redundant post of the year award!

Heard it all before.

hahaha yea yea i relised that straight after i hit the button to post it

:bowrofl:

yeap its the same old garbage

I actually quite like this...

http://www.cgiautomotive.com/images/Mitsubishi/380wagon.jpg

I actually quite like this...

http://www.cgiautomotive.com/images/...i/380wagon.jpg

I reckon that looks fantastic. btw... who did these pictures?

They're all pretty good!

isnt that a lancer wagon with a 380 number plate wacked on?

isnt that a lancer wagon with a 380 number plate wacked on?
Actually i think that it is a chop of a Lancer and a Outlander... I was at a Mitsu dealer today and the rear door window line on the chop and the Outlander are very similar.

Nah that's a genuine 380 wagon photoshop, taken from an original promo pick when 380 was first released. Looks pretty good, but needs roof rails to finish the look.

I actually quite like this...

http://www.cgiautomotive.com/images/Mitsubishi/380wagon.jpg
That wagon looks hot! Make it black, big chrome grille (i think lx?) lowered on some 19's/20's and it'd be a hot wagon for sure.