hey guys how are we all.. well im on a high atm coz i just finished my custom cold air induction. i just took her for a spin and all i have to say is HOLY CRAP. she accelerates so much faster and goes 500rpm higher and i love it. gives alot more high end power... it rox. heres some pix, let me know what you think... any questoins just ask.. cheers boys and girls. jess rox

tim

I'm gonna get flamed - but what you experienced is called 'the placebo affect'.

I'm gonna get flamed - but what you experienced is called 'the placebo affect'.

well considering it topped out at 6300 instead of 5800, i dont think i was imagining it. plus i had a passenger who timed it so im pretty sure it made a difference...
ur gonna get flamed???? :nuts: im lost at that bit lol

You would be making peak power WELL before 5800 anyway, so the extra 500rpm you apparently gained means SFA.

With all those 90 deg bends in the pipe, you would most likely be getting less airflow to the throttle.

The only advantage of the pipe is that it may be a few degrees cooler - but one again would make SFA change to power output.

hmmm nice work mate but did u actually cut a piece outta ur bumper???
thats the only bit i wouldnt do (if ya did it). just be careful revving it up that high i took my standard engine up to 6500 rpm and blew the head gasket clean between combustion chambers 2&3. not fun started backfiring and ****. there is a difference between what your car can rev to and where it actually makes power to if ya get me... ie. no point revving to 8000rpm if it starts dropping power output at 6500rpm etc.

but anyways good work and nice to see ppl making new gear!!

You would be making peak power WELL before 5800 anyway, so the extra 500rpm you apparently gained means SFA.

With all those 90 deg bends in the pipe, you would most likely be getting less airflow to the throttle.

The only advantage of the pipe is that it may be a few degrees cooler - but one again would make SFA change to power output.

yeh well whatever it means... im feeling and seeing more power so im happy :D
theres easily more airflow, simply because its 90mm wide instead of 30. the bends would restrict the airflow minimally, not enough to change the volume gettin to the throttle, plus the air is flowing right into the pipe so its being forced in as well as sucked in. like i said... im happy
keep em coming

actually the 90 bends are mandrel in that type of pvc and its probably 90mm pipe so it cant be restrictive but agreed only gettin a few degrees cooler air

hmmm nice work mate but did u actually cut a piece outta ur bumper???
thats the only bit i wouldnt do (if ya did it). just be careful revving it up that high i took my standard engine up to 6500 rpm and blew the head gasket clean between combustion chambers 2&3. not fun started backfiring and ****. there is a difference between what your car can rev to and where it actually makes power to if ya get me... ie. no point revving to 8000rpm if it starts dropping power output at 6500rpm etc.

but anyways good work and nice to see ppl making new gear!!

yeh thats the only bit i regret :doubt: . i proly shouldve put the pipe under the bumper...
yeh i know what u mean. it peaks alot higher, theres more power and i aint gonna rev it that high anyways. but otherwise its great

nice work tim :D good to see it finished, u did a lot today since i saw ya last nite, oh btw a lil off topic i put one of the new gt gas struts in (ran out of time) and it works amazing, bumping a lot more :doubt: nfi why, anyways took out the inner guard and low and behold that grinding sound is gone from the wheel, but still vibration so i take it, new tire, wheel alignment and balance and things should be sweet.
seeya tomorrow maybe

nice work tim :D good to see it finished, u did a lot today since i saw ya last nite, oh btw a lil off topic i put one of the new gt gas struts in (ran out of time) and it works amazing, bumping a lot more :doubt: nfi why, anyways took out the inner guard and low and behold that grinding sound is gone from the wheel, but still vibration so i take it, new tire, wheel alignment and balance and things should be sweet.
seeya tomorrow maybe

nice work ay.. thanx. so is the vibration gone?

actually the 90 bends are mandrel in that type of pvc and its probably 90mm pipe so it cant be restrictive but agreed only gettin a few degrees cooler air

im a lil lost. r u sayin it is or isnt restrictive?:confused:

im feeling and seeing more power so im happy :D


I think the "I'm feeling" more power is exactly right.

Big ups on doing such a neat and tidy job (the piping), but i am willing to bet my left testicle that if you stuck it on a dyno - there would be no power difference.

definitely isnt restrictive its bigger piping and the bends u got are like mandrel bends (keep full internal area throughout the bend)

definitely no overall power difference but for sure the pick up etc would be better hence making the car faster ie 0-100 or 1/4 mile even if only a bit

definitely isnt restrictive its bigger piping and the bends u got are like mandrel bends (keep full internal area throughout the bend)

yeh thought so

TL-R: well it revved out alot higher... i said i saw and felt more power... anyways lets not get too heated up about something so small.. especially betting ut nuts.
cheers for the comment on the tidy work, i finished it off with silver heat and oil proof spray. looks good

if u dont mind me askin wot exactly did ur mate time???

if u dont mind me askin wot exactly did ur mate time???

when i timed it b4 the cai i got 4.23 to 60 and 9.72 to 100. on a flat road.
this time i only went to 60 coz it was only in my street but i got 4.09sec so i reckon its a decent improvement. u?

when i timed it b4 the cai i got 4.23 to 60 and 9.72 to 100. on a flat road.
this time i only went to 60 coz it was only in my street but i got 4.09sec so i reckon its a decent improvement. u?

only doing 1 run proves nuthing man!...should of done 3-5 to get a rough idea, cause you probably just drove better?

but i agree with ya, when i got my 100MM Cai in it felt SO much better!

You would be making peak power WELL before 5800 anyway, so the extra 500rpm you apparently gained means SFA.

With all those 90 deg bends in the pipe, you would most likely be getting less airflow to the throttle.

The only advantage of the pipe is that it may be a few degrees cooler - but one again would make SFA change to power output.


take a piece of pipe like what he has used and do 60kmh and hold it out the window and have the other end near ya face see how much air is there...i bet at 100 you will have trubble holding it out the window ...

the idea is good but on a hot day you will be sucking hot air off the road but other than that looks like it would work well

']only doing 1 run proves nuthing man!...should of done 3-5 to get a rough idea, cause you probably just drove better?

but i agree with ya, when i got my 100MM Cai in it felt SO much better!

ohh sorry mate. 4.09 average. i did 5 runs. never cracked got into 3 seconds tho :cry:
yehits good ay, i love it

take a piece of pipe like what he has used and do 60kmh and hold it out the window and have the other end near ya face see how much air is there...i bet at 100 you will have trubble holding it out the window ...

the idea is good but on a hot day you will be sucking hot air off the road but other than that looks like it would work well

tru, but better hot air off the road than even hotter air from the engine bay.

tru, but better hot air off the road than even hotter air from the engine bay.
I really want to do what u just did man, great idea, cept ill try to go for bigger pipe + keeping my front bar in one piece lol

:thumbsup: for having an idea and going ahead with it

take a piece of pipe like what he has used and do 60kmh and hold it out the window and have the other end near ya face see how much air is there...i bet at 100 you will have trubble holding it out the window

That's all fine - except he has 3 bends in it. As i mentioned before, i bet my left testicle it makes SFA difference.

']I really want to do what u just did man, great idea, cept ill try to go for bigger pipe + keeping my front bar in one piece lol

:thmubsup: for having an idea and going ahead with it

haha thanx man, yeh i was thinking 100mm but decided to stay with the 90.
haha yeh like i said, i regretted it immediately after cutting it
cheers! :D

That's all fine - except he has 3 bends in it. As i mentioned before, i bet my left testicle it makes SFA difference.

dood, in our cars it DOES make a difference, when i installed mine it had so much better repsonse....

That's all fine - except he has 3 bends in it. As i mentioned before, i bet my left testicle it makes SFA difference.

well for me and the rest of us here its made a difference. but still i strongly adivce u to keep ur balls, could b messy

I'll reserve my decision for after you post before and after dyno runs.

But as i said - very neat and tidy job. Much better than most i've seen.

I'll reserve my decision for after you post before and after dyno runs.

But as i said - very neat and tidy job. Much better than most i've seen.

sounds much better, i will let you all know my times and or sheets, whichever comes first. should be going to willowbank in a fortnight hopefully and will test it there. keep the comments coming tho :D

sounds much better, i will let you all know my times and or sheets, whichever comes first. should be going to willowbank in a fortnight hopefully and will test it there. keep the comments coming tho :D
I can tell you from experience it won't make any difference to your 1/4 mile times. Do one run with it and one without. They'll both be exactly the same providing your driving is consistant.

Might make a diff on a 4cyl. I remember when I put a pod on my old TR I thought it went heaps harder, but looking back now it was just the extra induction noise making me think it was faster. lol

I think the "I'm feeling" more power is exactly right.

Big ups on doing such a neat and tidy job (the piping), but i am willing to bet my left testicle that if you stuck it on a dyno - there would be no power difference.

Thats probably true because on a dyno the car isnt moving anywhere... on the street, the car is under the ram effect, hence a slight increase in responsiveness.

The 2nd gens do seem to get an increase more than any other car i've seen with a cai for some reason... i think its more the fact of the stock duct being a bit too restrictive though...

Nice job mate, congrats :thumbsup:

It always feels good to do things yaself, especially when it comes to engine mods, although most are right in saying it wont make much difference when it comes to Qmile times, and probs wont add to many KW's maybe 1KW if ya lucky, but the point of the CAI is not to get massive power gains its to feed the engine with cold air which is what you have done, it may feel a tad faster but its more in the head than anything else, but with a CAI the car will definitly feel more responsive and should Rev a lot easier!!

Once again good job mate!

I'll reserve my decision for after you post before and after dyno runs.

But as i said - very neat and tidy job. Much better than most i've seen.

bahahah you're old mate who reckons a 100*c engine bay is hotter than a road on a 30*c day while moving @ speed.

Like stated dynos aren't moving therefore it's irrelevent. On a dyno a pod filter will have more power but under a closed bonnet it won't... When i fitted my pod it sounded better but was definately slower.

Stock 2nd gens have a very gay intake to keep it quiet and you might notice on the 3rd gen the intake was altered to fit a snorkel type feed from the grill into the filter.

my 2 cents worth here

3 bends or not its gotta be better cold air from outside engine bay summer or not its colder than whats under the hood.

I got a V6 and it has 3 bends in the stock intake b4 the filter little plastic thing thats oval shapped and sits behind the blinker.

So bigups 2 u m8 good work.

Oh and if you like the sound and the pickup is better for you thats all that matters its not a race car after all

Thats probably true because on a dyno the car isnt moving anywhere... on the street, the car is under the ram effect, hence a slight increase in responsiveness.

All the dyno's i've been on have a big-ass fan in front of them to simulate moving air.

All the dyno's i've been on have a big-ass fan in front of them to simulate moving air.

Yes but the air they move is normally just warm air from around the workshop... the only real benefit of the fan is to flow air through the radiator.

All the dyno's i've been on have a big-ass fan in front of them to simulate moving air.

that big ass fan is to keep the radiator cooler

and is ment to point to the radiator not an intake

it is also no ware near the same pressure of air at 100kmh

dont know where you guys are from but in qld on a hot day the tar on the road melts and sticks to ya shoes..

the only other problem with a low intake is hitting water when its raining, so be carfull:thumbsup:

that big ass fan is to keep the radiator cooler

and is ment to point to the radiator not an intake

it is also no ware near the same pressure of air at 100kmh

dont know where you guys are from but in qld on a hot day the tar on the road melts and sticks to ya shoes..

the only other problem with a low intake is hitting water when its raining, so be carfull:thumbsup:

thanx for ur ideas and opinons... good 2 hear. im realy liking the responsiveness im getting and being able to rev higher feels good even tho i dont do it much. all thats left to do now is dyno, drag, and go on a cruise with yall...

id be putting some kind of a/f meter on it because of where it picks up or atleast check it on a dyno, at speed say 100kph what is the air presure going into your motor if you plant it? are you going to lean your motor out? think of the old hand out the window at 100kph feel the air presure thats whats getting pushed into your motor. as for water as long as u dont do any river crossings you will be fine, as far as cold air from the bar or bay it will only be as cool as your intake runners anyways.

now the good :) great to see you have a go how did you get it down through the inner guard?

with luck next weekend my 1st gen will be picking up from the front and not behind the headlight :)

neat finish looks good

id be putting some kind of a/f meter on it because of where it picks up or atleast check it on a dyno, at speed say 100kph what is the air presure going into your motor if you plant it? are you going to lean your motor out? think of the old hand out the window at 100kph feel the air presure thats whats getting pushed into your motor. as for water as long as u dont do any river crossings you will be fine, as far as cold air from the bar or bay it will only be as cool as your intake runners anyways.

now the good :) great to see you have a go how did you get it down through the inner guard?

with luck next weekend my 1st gen will be picking up from the front and not behind the headlight :)

neat finish looks good

Nah the maf looks after that as long as it's not a huge change in massed air ie forced induction or similar.

My throttle body was alot cooler and my intake manifold too after driving, i could never even touch my t/b after driving.

id be putting some kind of a/f meter on it because of where it picks up or atleast check it on a dyno, at speed say 100kph what is the air presure going into your motor if you plant it? are you going to lean your motor out? think of the old hand out the window at 100kph feel the air presure thats whats getting pushed into your motor. as for water as long as u dont do any river crossings you will be fine, as far as cold air from the bar or bay it will only be as cool as your intake runners anyways.

now the good :) great to see you have a go how did you get it down through the inner guard?

with luck next weekend my 1st gen will be picking up from the front and not behind the headlight :)

neat finish looks good

hey mate, cheers. i drilled down beside the battery :confused: about 4 inches wide ( i measurd it this time) then jst went straight behind the bumper. pretty easy stuff. i reckon the PVC stuff is the way to go, its smoother, wider, stronger and has no ripples that hinder the airflow. wether it increases power or not does not matter to me. ive found that i accelerate a hell of alot faster, all the cai has done is allowed me to use more of the potential power the car has

I think you need one of those electric superchargers for the pipe... give it a bit more suction. Just an idea :)

I think you need one of those electric superchargers for the pipe... give it a bit more suction. Just an idea :)



these only gives a couple of kw at d paw i did this to my ralliart b4

Has anyone tried a 2ng gen cai mod that works in a similar way to the 3rd gen stock air intake. 3rd gen's must have better intake then 2nd's and plus, it's a little higher up so on hotter days the air will be a little cooler (im on the gold coast so this is an issue).

Just an idea, probably has plenty of negatives and positives to it, but if it isnt a bad idea i wouldnt mind giving it a go...

Cool CAI :cool:

How much did you pay for the pipes ? I wanna do something like this for my 1st gen instead of using a flexy hose from supercheap. It worked really well on my old car, but stuffing it in that hole infront of the battery was no easy task. Couldnt move my fingers for 2 days lol

Cool CAI :cool:

How much did you pay for the pipes ? I wanna do something like this for my 1st gen instead of using a flexy hose from supercheap. It worked really well on my old car, but stuffing it in that hole infront of the battery was no easy task. Couldnt move my fingers for 2 days lol

Last time i paid $9 for a meter of PVC (100mm) From bunnings, The bends may be a litle more dearer
There was one member off AMC who actually extended the MAF Wires and ran his pod to the front bumper like the 3rd gens, so instead of going around the battery he didnt have it curved at all, just straight from the T/B down to the bumper, great idea IMO, but a LOT of work

Cool CAI :cool:

How much did you pay for the pipes ? I wanna do something like this for my 1st gen instead of using a flexy hose from supercheap. It worked really well on my old car, but stuffing it in that hole infront of the battery was no easy task. Couldnt move my fingers for 2 days lol

hey mate, um same as tufftr $9 per metre for the 90mm stuff and $1.50 for the 90 degree bends. i bought some engine enamel and sprayed the piping with it for extra protection. all up it cost me $25 im pretty sure. so yeh, alot better quality than supercheap stuff, easy to make and put together.
yeh i made my own hole as you can see :D :bowrofl:

completely off topic but where do you live dude?

yeh thats the only bit i regret :doubt: . i proly shouldve put the pipe under the bumper...
yeh i know what u mean. it peaks alot higher, theres more power and i aint gonna rev it that high anyways. but otherwise its great

You should have cut it a bit higher like what I did to my old ks (Skotty's car). Although I
had it professionally done and had a matching hole on the other side as well which is just
feeding cold air into the engine bay.

oh vlad, you sure miss that old car of yours dont ya, not that i can blame you of course, although there is nothing with a nice trade up

oh vlad, you sure miss that old car of yours dont ya, not that i can blame you of course, although there is nothing with a nice trade up

Yes, I did spend a lot of time and money on it. It went from a top speed of 180/190 km/hr
to approx 230km/hr (the needle was 10 degrees beyond the 220 mark).

hey guys iv done pretty much the same thing with my tj....your air filter will get dirty quicker...i really couldnt notice the differnce...i now have it off and i done a better time down the strip then before....thats just me guys. maybe is would be differnt with the older magna's? looks good tho dude

completely off topic but where do you live dude?

ALbany Creek.. y u ask?