This question may have been asked already and if it has can I be directed to the thread.

I was chasing some alternate lights for my TJ wagon, either clear or maybe the round ones on the newer magna sedans if at all possible. Does anyoen know if they are around......

thanks.

sorry mate i dont think they make them type of lights for wagons

I'm not to sure how the colour is put through the lens but if its applied to the top of the lens u may be able to strip the colour off with some high quality paint stripper...otherwise tinting them would be ya best bet, or even doing a sticker over them like mine.

The colour is all through the plastic - no way of removing it.

The wagon lights look great with the yellow indicator replaced with a chrome diadiem bulb though (these are silver/chrome when off, and yellow when on)

Cheers
Heath Young

I'm not to sure how the colour is put through the lens but if its applied to the top of the lens u may be able to strip the colour off with some high quality paint stripper...otherwise tinting them would be ya best bet, or even doing a sticker over them like mine.
I have the same problem. Stock tail lights on the TJ wagon are dull!

I tinted mine, but it just looks cheap. Can you show us a pic of your stickers? What's the light output like? (I like the brake lights to be seen, especially with the lack of even partially skilled drivers on Taree!).

Here's the link to a rear piccy of my car..
http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=taillights8gp.jpg
for legal wise u must have some part of all the lights visable and part of the reflection. (could differ from each state)

cheers
scott

The colour is all through the plastic - no way of removing it.

The wagon lights look great with the yellow indicator replaced with a chrome diadiem bulb though (these are silver/chrome when off, and yellow when on)

Cheers
Heath Young

Can you buy these from anywhere...autobarn, repco etc?

I think autobahn has them, the diadiems are a hella Bulb, completely legal and they have a good life and output. There are some that you can get from rice shops like Autojoy, but the problem is that they use a standard orange bulb with a mirror coating - as opposed to a true dichroic (interference layer) colour filter. Less output so if someone doesn't see your blinkers... Lifetime is also very sketchy.

See http://db.hella.com.au/cgi-bin/catalogue.pl?flcmd=preview&flmaint=2055

Cheers
Heath Young

Here's the link to a rear piccy of my car..
http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=taillights8gp.jpg
for legal wise u must have some part of all the lights visable and part of the reflection. (could differ from each state)

cheers
scott

Hrm. No comment on styling - each to their own I suppose.

The whole retroreflector must be visible. Its an adr requirement, which is federal, not state. There actually is a minimum size it can be though.

yeh i seen those diadem globes in the hella catalogue at work. they seem pretty good it you dont like the look of the amber globe in you tail lights but with the wagons i dont think it would make too much difference untill some clear lens come out.

I think autobahn has them, the diadiems are a hella Bulb, completely legal and they have a good life and output. There are some that you can get from rice shops like Autojoy, but the problem is that they use a standard orange bulb with a mirror coating - as opposed to a true dichroic (interference layer) colour filter. Less output so if someone doesn't see your blinkers... Lifetime is also very sketchy.

See http://db.hella.com.au/cgi-bin/catalogue.pl?flcmd=preview&flmaint=2055

Cheers
Heath Young

I'm not sure about the taillight flasher globes but the front flashers don't have offset pins on the globes so these ones won't fit i've tried.:rant:

Hrm. No comment on styling - each to their own I suppose.

Didn't ask for one, if you were going these 2 threads lying around somewhere, where u can.

She did go through a Qld RWC with these tailights.

No mention of size is mentioned in the ADR rules unless its a triangular reflector.


6.14. REAR RETRO-REFLECTOR, NON-TRIANGULAR
Federal Register of Legislative Instruments F2005L03991
Australian Design Rule 13/00 Installation of Lighting and Light Signalling Devices on
other than L-Group Vehicles
Appendix A – UNECE R48
49
6.14.1. Presence
Mandatory on motor vehicles.
Provided that they are grouped together with the other rear light-signalling
devices, optional on trailers.
6.14.2. Number
Two, the performances of which shall conform to the requirements
concerning Class IA or IB retro-reflectors in Regulation No. 3. Additional
retro-reflecting devices and materials are permitted provided they do not
impair the effectiveness of the mandatory lighting and light-signalling
devices.
6.14.3. Arrangement
No special requirement.
6.14.4. Position
6.14.4.1. In width: that point on the illuminating surface which is farthest from the
vehicle's median longitudinal plane shall not be more than 400mm from the
extreme outer edge of the vehicle. The distance between the inner edges of
the two apparent surfaces in the direction of the reference axes shall:
For M1 category vehicles: have no special requirement;
For all other categories of vehicles: be not less than 600mm.
This distance may be reduced to 400mm where the overall width of the
vehicle is less than 1,300mm. "
6.14.4.2. In height: above the ground, not less than 250mm nor more than 900mm
(1,500mm if the shape of the bodywork makes it impossible to keep within
900mm).
6.14.4.3. In length: at the rear of the vehicle.
6.14.5. Geometric visibility
Horizontal angle: 30 degrees inwards and outwards.
Vertical angle: 10 degrees above and below the horizontal. The vertical
angle below the horizontal may be reduced to 5 degrees in the case of a
retro-reflector less than 750mm above the ground.
6.14.6. Orientation
Rearwards.
6.14.7. Other requirements
The illuminating surface of the retro-reflector may have parts in common
with the apparent surface of any other lamp situated at the rear.

Can you buy these from anywhere...autobarn, repco etc?


If you are interested in those diadiem bulbs for a 2 pack they go for around $21.66 +.

another question about the lights...........can you remove the amber part of the lens in the front indicators and if you can, do they comply with the ADR once removed.

Here's the link to a rear piccy of my car..
http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=taillights8gp.jpg
for legal wise u must have some part of all the lights visable and part of the reflection. (could differ from each state)

cheers
scott

I actually don't mind this, it looks nice n clean, not too ricey.

I don't think it would work for a wagon though, I say look into the bulbs, that will be alot tidier than the stock ones. These are the same ones you can use for the front indicator that J-PAP posted up a lil while ago, looks alot nicer.

Speaking of ADR's, does anyone know what this might mean............3rd Edition ADR compliance applies only to category M1 passenger vehicles.

M i believe are motorcycles etc.. R is car or is it the otherway round

Speaking of ADR's, does anyone know what this might mean............3rd Edition ADR compliance applies only to category M1 passenger vehicles.

Search on google and yee shall find (http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/au/)it.... Its basically all passenger vehicles.

another question about the lights...........can you remove the amber part of the lens in the front indicators and if you can, do they comply with the ADR once removed.

No. While you physically can remove it, it is a fresnel lens that is part of the beam shaping equipment - remove it and you cange the telemetry (profile) of the beam.

The cheapie depo (repair part) knockoffs you could probably get away with (they have piss poor telemetry anyway) and they are still ADR compliant (supposedly).

The hella ones are a better make.

Cheers
Heath Young

So if I take the amber part out I can get a replacement which is clear that will fit in there???

??? No. I was saying that the depo ones are ordinary in their output telemetry and you could probably get away with just removing it - it seems to be just a filter rather than a fresnel lens (like on the Hella ones)

Still wouldn't be legal (as you have modified approved(? No E mark on DEPO ones)) equipment but probably would go unnoticed.

Cheers
Heath Young