found a shell servo today selling this new shell fuel,this is in adelaide as well. i was just about out of lpg so decided why not so put $30 worth in this gave me 3/4 of a tank. you can definitely feel the diff especially over lpg. however the car was running like a bag of s--t, missing rough idle ,bogging down under load, swithed back to lpg no probs what so ever runs like a dream.
so switched coil leads as my usual one has a spark improver on it. thats better still a little bit of amiss there but not as bad as b4 . the old tr elite goes like i couldn't believe, she really got up and went even with 17x8 fairlane ghia mags on running 235's. still bogged down a little under load tho. i am running a pipercross pod filter so i am wondering if this is the problem or something electrical, runs excellent on gas tho. economy well hard to tell have done 100klm's since filling one needle width above 3/4 mark now 1/2 a needle width under 3/4 of a tank. so will see how it goes

alan

It's nothing new, its just a different name for shell optimax.

TRUE but according to djr and a couple of other v8 teams on the dyno it made more power over optimax.

According to shell it's different than Optimax but I don't know what is

The fact that at my local shell it was just a sticker placed over the "optimax" signage over night suggests that it is just a new naming scheme.

According to shell it's different than Optimax but I don't know what is



http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=au-en&FC2=/au-en/html/iwgen/shell_for_motorists/fuels/zzz_lhn.html&FC3=/au-en/tailored/shell_for_motorists/fuels/vpower_p/vpower_p_about_ga_1602.html



"is designed to give you better responsiveness and improved performance in comparison with Shell Optimax, the fuel that it replaces."

It's the same bloody thing. Just like BP Ultimate is the same as Mobil 8000 and Caltex Vortex. It's just a play on words to make you believe crap so you buy their product.

It's the same bloody thing. Just like BP Ultimate is the same as Mobil 8000 and Caltex Vortex. It's just a play on words to make you believe crap so you buy their product.

i use v power.

i dont fork extra for 98RON, but only use 95RON.

not sure why alan's TR is missing. maybe you should stick to 91RON.........

I'm sure its been stated before but a car may run rough if it runs on lpg for some amount of time when on normal fuel due to blockages in the fuel injectors. Has something to do with the lpg being a much finer liquid being injected.

i use v power.

i dont fork extra for 98RON, but only use 95RON.

not sure why alan's TR is missing. maybe you should stick to 91RON.........


Correct me if Im wrong but isnt V-POWER a 98 fuel anyways ???... So therefore you would using a 98 instead of 95??... Anyone know of a station thats selling the V-POWER Racing... Wouldnt mind throwing some 100 thru her lol (My car that is)

Correct me if Im wrong but isnt V-POWER a 98 fuel anyways ???... So therefore you would using a 98 instead of 95??... Anyone know of a station thats selling the V-POWER Racing... Wouldnt mind throwing some 100 thru her lol (My car that is)

is it?

i thought v power is 95 and 98 is still optimax

New Shell V-Power has been developed by the scientists who develop Ferrari’s Formula 1 fuels. New Shell V-Power has been thoroughly tested both in the laboratory and on-road. The final formulation is a result of data gathered over several years of testing.

I thought all Formula 1 teams were required to use the same fuel :nuts:. Otherwise teams could use higher octane fuels and what not, I think that proves that there just having a beat over it.

Anyone know of a station thats selling the V-POWER Racing... Wouldnt mind throwing some 100 thru her lol (My car that is)
Hmm... ethenol lol

is it?

i thought v power is 95 and 98 is still optimax

Shell Still have the fuel called, Unleaded 95, of which is your 95RON... The V-Power would be the 98RON, same as the Optimax... They prob tell ya its a different fuel but seriously I would doubt very much you would see any difference... Keep using the 98 (V-power) your car will love u for it in the long run... Hope I have helped you out :D

Shell Still have the fuel called, Unleaded 95, of which is your 95RON... The V-Power would be the 98RON, same as the Optimax... They prob tell ya its a different fuel but seriously I would doubt very much you would see any difference... Keep using the 98 (V-power) your car will love u for it in the long run... Hope I have helped you out :D

oh ok. see, i dont think 'we' are supposed to notice a difference. we just aren't supposed to.
my ralliart deserves the best food.

V Power racing is Ron 100. its thes best stuff out atm. i thuoght it was a naming scheme as well but it actually is what it says. my dad is the aussie manager for caltex and deals with shell and BP and whatnot investigating all their products. it really is what it says.
I use it all the time now, makes a hell of a difference. i switchd bak to ron95 and felt like i was drivin my lawn mower... bogging, lagging, it was jsut crap. V Power Racing all the way!

oh ok. see, i dont think 'we' are supposed to notice a difference. we just aren't supposed to.
my ralliart deserves the best food.

You have a sweet **** looking ride there, look after her insides and she will make sure u keep turning heads down the street :D

You have a sweet **** looking ride there, look after her insides and she will make sure u keep turning heads down the street :D

thanks man.

V Power racing is Ron 100. its thes best stuff out atm. i thuoght it was a naming scheme as well but it actually is what it says. my dad is the aussie manager for caltex and deals with shell and BP and whatnot investigating all their products. it really is what it says.
I use it all the time now, makes a hell of a difference. i switchd bak to ron95 and felt like i was drivin my lawn mower... bogging, lagging, it was jsut crap. V Power Racing all the way!

tell me. do you get cheap petrol? you must.

or if not, your dad gets a lot of money?

tell me. do you get cheap petrol? you must.

or if not, your dad gets a lot of money?


I have been running BP Ultimate / Optimax from day one in mine, but work pays for all me fuel...butttt shhhhhh ;)... Yeah I'd hate to have someone in the Fuel business ey, hopefully are hear the sarcasism there lol

I'm sure its been stated before but a car may run rough if it runs on lpg for some amount of time when on normal fuel due to blockages in the fuel injectors. Has something to do with the lpg being a much finer liquid being injected.


LPG isn't fed in through the injectors so the blockages are probably because when you use LPG for a while, your injectors aren't being used. Hence the recommendation to alternate betwen the two fuels.

tell me. do you get cheap petrol? you must.

or if not, your dad gets a lot of money?

both actually lol
i dont get any cheap petrol, mum n dad get 50% off grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. plus dad gets paids a crap load. discount doesnt apply to me so i use shell. he can testify shell has the best stuff out otherwise id be using caltex.

I have been running BP Ultimate / Optimax from day one in mine, but work pays for all me fuel...butttt shhhhhh ;)... Yeah I'd hate to have someone in the Fuel business ey, hopefully are hear the sarcasism there lol

hahah what sarcasm???? jks. yeah its ok. be better if i actually got a flippin discount card.

First of all, yes Shell's 100 octane is the real deal, but in a 3rd gen Magna won't make any difference to power or economy and at 14c/L more expensive than regular unleaded it is a freakin rip off. Secondly, even if you put 100 ron in a second gen, the gain in power might be like 2kW ATW, nothing noticeable at all. There are only 2 fuel refineries in australia guys, one is for Shell's fuel and the other is for everyone elses fuel basically. It gets so redundant telling people about fuel on here... It doesn't matter that different rons do nothing for 3rd gens, people will still waste their money, sigh. :nuts:

First of all, yes Shell's 100 octane is the real deal, but in a 3rd gen Magna won't make any difference to power or economy and at 14c/L more expensive than regular unleaded it is a freakin rip off. Correct. Here's why 3rd Gen magna's have no Knock Sensor, therefore, the ecu doesn't have the capability to advance the ignition timing to take advantage of the higher resistance to pre ignition. Therefore, no increase in performance.

There are only 2 fuel refineries in australia guys, one is for Shell's fuel and the other is for everyone elses fuel basically. Yeah at most two refineries per state - off the top of my head there are eight refineries from 4 brands BP, Mobil/Exxon, Shell, Caltex - however there are only at most two refineries per state - and it's uneconomical to transport the fuel that far when you can arrange agreements with other suppliers.

It gets so redundant telling people about fuel on here... It doesn't matter that different rons do nothing for 3rd gens, people will still waste their money, sigh. :nuts:Yeah there is already 4 pages on this topic.

Wow wasnt there a whole thread only a week or two ago about 3rd gens and how this fuel has an effect or doesnt have an effect on there car in regards to performance and economy?
just seems like this thread is heading the same way with everyones forced opinions on the 3rd gens..

im not worried or concerned with how much more kW i get. or how many more metres i may get out of a tank.

i use premium because its supposed to be more refined, cleaner, and has added detergents and stuff.

i use 95RON because its a good compromise.

my thoughts.

My Simple thoughts...you spend Thousands on a car and in my case thousands fixing a car only to feed it crap? for an Extra $4 or so a tank i know im getting top grade stuff, weather or not it gets me further or gives me more power, its just peace of mind for my sake knowing *hopefully* whats going into my tank is only the best.
I run 98 all the time and cant really tell anything different from normal, my driving is mixed so i cant get a really accurate figure on what i get, but so far its around the 11L/100K's combined

im not worried or concerned with how much more kW i get. or how many more metres i may get out of a tank.

i use premium because its supposed to be more refined, cleaner, and has added detergents and stuff.

i use 95RON because its a good compromise.

my thoughts.

Couldnt agree more, the cleaner the food the better the intestines... Althou I use 98ron I couldnt be stuffed at the difference in power, I have just used that since day one and will continue to use it. You start to worry too much when ur talking bout freakin knock sensors and refineries... Its fuel....its very similar to taxes n death...its apart of life grrrrrr

92 RON isn't a crap fuel, it's just the standard fuel. Afterall you should have a high quality fuel filter to remove the crap from your fuel. It's a moot point. The different RONs come from the same refinery with the same quality control processes.

I will however say that I do use 95ron - just on the basis that yes it is cleaner burning, better for the enviroment etc.

As with most purchases, I think the premium fuel issue is really pushed signficantly surrounding the marketing of the particular brand.

I can remember a number of examples that the Ford Falcon owners have had major issues for instance with the Optimax brands due to the additives in that particular fuel.

In fact, looking at the 277 threads that include the word Optimax on Fordforums, there seem to have been many issues experienced by the AU and E series members in regards to pre-ignition/pre-detonation casued by high octane fuels

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

Remember 91 ron fuel is still well above what the americans get which is 86 ron. Having said that, for the extra money you spend on higher octane fuels, you could save that money over say a 3-6 month period, then spend the money saved on injector cleaner and probably have enough left over to buy yourself some lunch.

Yeah i thought Shell's V-power was 100 RON.

Tried it in the wifes KJ AWD last week. Couldnt pick a difference at all. There was only 5 litres left when i filled it with 100 so was a full tank of the stuff.

I can usually feel it a tiny bit in my 4 speed KH wagon and even then its only very minimal but couldnt feel the slightest difference in the KJ AWD not even with economy.

Yeah i thought Shell's V-power was 100 RON.

Tried it in the wifes KJ AWD last week. Couldnt pick a difference at all. There was only 5 litres left when i filled it with 100 so was a full tank of the stuff.

I can usually feel it a tiny bit in my 4 speed KH wagon and even then its only very minimal but couldnt feel the slightest difference in the KJ AWD not even with economy.
V-Power is 98 ron aka Optimax. V-Power Racing is the 100 ron 5% ethanol blend.

My girl works at Shell ... and after reading the first few pages of this I just ignored some of the comments.

Shell could not always guarantee that Optimax was 98RON. Hence why there were times when the servo's were out of it. V Power is the answer to that reliability problem.

I have tried it in my 01 TJ which HATED Optimax, and V power makes a difference in running and economy.

Shell's range now has 91RON Unleaded, 95RON Unleaded and 98RON V power. At the moment the 100RON stuff (V Power Racing) is only available in select Sydney/Brisbane stores.

Hope this clears up the illusion that Optimax is the same as V Power. Longer refining, and completely different additives.

This threads almost a zombie by now. But regardless.

When I used to ride my baby-blade all over the place I discovered something about Shell fuel the hard way.

the CBR250RR is possibly the most sensitive thing out there in terms of fuel quality. It revs to 20,000 and extracts a simply huge amount of power from very little capacity (It used almost as much fuel as the Lancer I owned at the time did), and to top it off I got it 'no-compromises' tuned from a mechanic who specialises in the little beaties (post-service, each gear accelerated like the one below it used to.)

Anyway, back to the point.

Optimax is highly variable stuff. My bike never went quicker than when it had a tank of good optimax in it. A mediochre tank would cause a lack of power and I had afew tanks where it would clog right up, one tank so badly it stopped the bike. I've get very little to back this up, except for lots of messing around trying optimax and other fuels, and other motorcyclists saying exactly the same things. Great fuel, but been known to stop bikes dead (temporarily)

I've never had a problem putting in cars, but for anyone running a hot engine with advanced timing. If you're outside a capital city, think about putting BP or something in the tank.

For gods sake. All 98 ron fuel is basically the same. None are any different to the next in quality.

I put V-Power in my car the other day, and I still have a 1/4 of a tank of it left, and honestly I can't see a difference aside from maybe a little more mileage. Definitely no power increase, but when I first put it in it did smooth out my rough idle, although that is back with avengeance now.

Hated the guy who started this thread no offence, when there is a thread sticky about high octane fuel post it there.

I dont see the point of people keep saying I pump this and that. The car moves. End of story. Discuss it in the sticky, close the thread.