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outbackjack
02-12-2006, 01:13 PM
Ok Gals and Guys work this one out.

I get in my Car today. It stalls at the first intersection and doesnt seem to have the power it normally has. Infact it seems realy retarded,Any ways get to the shop where its still trying to stall just not all the time.
I get out and the key fob doesnt want to work although the central looking does. Key fob is about 6 months old. After the shops I go down to the pool, on the way car is running like its pulling a 100 ton trailer and threatens to stall at the lights. Idle is everywhere from 300 odd rpm to 1000 rpm. A/C does seem to hurt it more and A/C is not as cold as it normally is.
Finally get back in car from pool and notice that clock has reset it self to 1.00 am.
Drive home still with no power and the threat of stalling.
Now it sits in the garage, i have asked it to behave it self.

So any idea peoples??? Is the car possessed or all these problems related some how?

It starts no problems btw
Oh one final thing I pulled into a garage and replace interior ligh globe. it work for a second then no more after that and I cant get the three lights to work at all

Cheers

Ulciscor
02-12-2006, 01:18 PM
So any idea peoples??? Is the car possessed or all these problems related some how?


Cheers

Sounds like some sort of electrical problem, alternator, battery something along those lines.
try disconnecting the battery overnight and then reconnect and drive around the next day

it might act funny for about an 1hour of driving then it should settle down again.

TL-R
02-12-2006, 01:44 PM
Sounds like some sort of electrical problem, alternator, battery something along those lines.
try disconnecting the battery overnight and then reconnect and drive around the next day

Can you please explain why resetting the ECU will fix an electrical problem?

This could be a million different things. Could be dead alternator, could be a bung spark plug, could be a cat jammed in the radiator fan. You'd need to be at the car to diagnose something like this, otherwise we're all just guessing.

outbackjack
02-12-2006, 01:51 PM
I might add the car has had two major services since buying it.

It had new plugs, filters oil, o rings etc done at 113K kms, which is when I brought it about 6 months ago
Car then had another major service replacing more o rings brakes, oil and filters etc. infact since second service at around 119k kms ,it never seem to run right after that. never will be taking it back for mitsubishi service.

Car has done about 222K kms now

I am not sure how old the battery is but it still starts ok

xman333
02-12-2006, 01:53 PM
Can you please explain why resetting the ECU will fix an electrical problem?

This could be a million different things. Could be dead alternator, could be a bung spark plug, could be a cat jammed in the radiator fan. You'd need to be at the car to diagnose something like this, otherwise we're all just guessing.

I had an exhaust leak once. Sat her in the garage over night, disconected the battery, and in the morning, no exhaust leak!

Another time, when my grandmother started feeling lethargic, I disconnected her pacemaker, and in the morning, she felt like running around the block.

ok...... so the first story's true. The welding was done after the battery was disconnected.

The second story, I made up...... but it sounded good to me???

Ulciscor
02-12-2006, 01:57 PM
Can you please explain why resetting the ECU will fix an electrical problem?
No need to be a smart ass mate, i had a te magna about 6-months ago, it also had a similar problem, wouldn't idle properly and felt id say " lethargic " if that makes sense, i resetted the ECU and after about 100kms of driving it was running fine.

TL-R
02-12-2006, 01:59 PM
I had an exhaust leak once. Sat her in the garage over night, disconected the battery, and in the morning, no exhaust leak!

ROFL!


OUTBACKJACK:

If you have a multimeter, check what the battery is getting with the car running.

xman333
02-12-2006, 02:06 PM
No need to be a smart ass mate, i had a te magna about 6-months ago, it also had a similar problem, wouldn't idle properly and felt id say " lethargic " if that makes sense, i resetted the ECU and after about 100kms of driving it was running fine.

Take it easy bro. My wife and son have been living in Papua New Guinea for two years. I've been going up whenever I could to see them. Yesterday, my wife told me over the phone, that she doesn't want to be married any more.

I might be a smart ass, but I'm just having some fun mate. PLEASE, don't mind the xman!!

TL-R
02-12-2006, 02:09 PM
^^^

Ditto, apart from the wife leaving comment (DAMN BROTHER!)

If you think it through, resetting the ECU is extremely unlikely to do anything at all.

MicJaiy
02-12-2006, 02:18 PM
outbackjack,

i don't know what the **** the last couple of replies are on about so just ignore them :rant:

What year and model is your car?
Check your battery terminals (tighten & clean them with a steel brush and hot water), if your clock is reseting to 1:00AM that means your battery has been disconnected and reconnected.

TL-R
02-12-2006, 02:22 PM
Or it could more likely mean the battery isn't being charged, hence my suggestion of checking it with a multimeter.

If the battery is disconnected and reconnected, this in itself will not cause the car to run like ****.

tmichelsons
02-12-2006, 02:29 PM
well because TL-R seems to be a professional in the field of electrical engineering, and xman333 thinks this is a counceling session, i think that you should either try what Ulciscor has said, if it doesnt work, no harm no foul - but he seems to be the only one talking from prior experiences, otherwise goto a pro and get it checked out, and ignore any further comments by TL-R and xman333.

Citizen Insane
02-12-2006, 03:00 PM
Calm down people. As tmichaelsons said, there's no harm in trying it.

I've had this exact same problem, with all the same symptoms you're describing. It turned out to be the interior light fuse. Check this fuse, it's in the engine bay box.

It's worth noting also that when this fuse blew, the ECU lost all memory. Including how to keep the car at idle, which meant that every time I took my foot off the throttle, the car went to idle but just died.

So after replacing the fuse, start the car cold and just let it idle for about 15 min, this will allow the ECU to "re-learn" how to keep the engine at idle.

Edit: Just read the end of your original description, where you changed the light bulb. This is how I blew the fuse too, so I'd say the fuse is definitely your problem. The fuse is in the engine bay in the yellow cradle.

outbackjack
02-12-2006, 05:12 PM
Thanks for the replies. trying to change globe was in the middle of the trip, had problem before then. But I will check fuse in the morning.
Its still running like a mongrel. I am trying to track down multimeter.

freakinu
02-12-2006, 06:24 PM
Ok no claim of being an expert here but sounds similar to what happened with me a few months ago - changed globe for some reason it blew a fuse and then the car would not idle properly and it kept stalling etc. Ended up taking it to Mitsu who reprogrmmed the ECU and it is all running sweet again straight away - resetting the ECU just put it back to base factory settings and so that is why they needed to reprogram it. Cost me 80 bucks but they cleaned the throttle body for free whilte they were messing about so anway this is just an idea if the battery thing does not work...

outbackjack
03-12-2006, 07:43 AM
Ok guys and gals,

Fuse was blown, god knows why. Can now use the alarm and seems to idle a little better. I havent taken it for a run yet.

How Bizzare, blown a fuse for a interior lights causes all these dramas? How bizzare. Still Love the verada though

xman333
03-12-2006, 11:31 AM
Ok guys and gals,

Fuse was blown, god knows why. Can now use the alarm and seems to idle a little better. I havent taken it for a run yet.

How Bizzare, blown a fuse for a interior lights causes all these dramas? How bizzare. Still Love the verada though

So, does that mean that you won't be resetting the ECU?

I think you should reset the ECU..... just in case.

Neo
03-12-2006, 12:19 PM
My TP was acting like the above after I had cleaned out the sparkplugs once. One of the ignition leads wasn't seated correctly and it was running on 3 cylinders. My bad. :doubt:

My brother also had a problem much like this with his gen2 verada, the timing of the cylinders was off by a lot (firing order). Just throwing some ideas out there. :confused:

hypermagna
03-12-2006, 12:37 PM
I had the same prob with my TH when I started it up the idol speed when to 1500 then dropped and stalled, it ended up being the idol solenoid and I blew a fuse for the interior light which killed the control locking as well :bowrofl: so if your car still stalled when you stop, get the person who services your car to check the idol solenoid.

outbackjack
03-12-2006, 04:47 PM
Hi all,

No havent reset ecu yet. Its running ok now.

Playing around with some ideas now. You think getting close to 40 I would grow up a little.

I have come across a TH engine for 400 dollars with 60k kms, looking at maybe buying it and putting cams, head work etc , then do a engine swap.


MMMM

DO I need to spend money on a car that i payed 4k for. I would spend more than its worth.

Meeookat
03-12-2006, 08:29 PM
This has happened to a couple of Magnas I know of. In each case, they had been washed under the hood over time, and water had got into the electronics plugs and corrosion had occured. The offending item was the idle adjuster and something else similar (sorry, I forget. I've been working on a GTiR!!). Take off all the plugs, clean out, and put back. It's a good start, and besides, it's free!! If there's still a problem after that, then it's off to the shop I'm afraid.