hey guys, i really wanna get a single 12" and re do the install in my boot, with the sub being the centre piece, also im leaning to a more sq oriented set up, but with the ability to turn up the bass when im out cruising, versatile SQ i like to call it :D also thinking of entering a few caasq events when my systems up to scratch, also i want a half showy boot install, so i want the sub to be aesthetically pleasing, and be able to pack a punch, this has lead me to an alpine type-X, looks good, goes hard, yet still refined and balanced enough to call an SQ setup its home, now my little problem, ive got a kicker kx 1200.1 monoblock, its got the juice on tap being able to produce just over 1400w rms, but it makes its magic at 1ohm, but as far as i can tell the type-X comes in dual 4ohm configuration only? can any one confirm this? the only person i know of with a type-X on here is asylum, but any help would be appreciated,
cheers,
tom

yeah they do come only in dual 4ohm
but you can wire them up as 2ohms

yeh but my amp only makes 650rms at 2ohm...... not very efficent:doubt: plus the amp goes hard a 1ohm, makin over 1400rms with out even braking a sweat..... you could chill a beer on this baby its that cool after a belting :D

yeah only 4+4 unfortunately

although 650RMS would probably be fine for what your describing tho, SQ isn't all about power

yeh, but that would be running the amp at full pace, if i it was 2+2, wire it for 1 ohm, the amp would be producing just over 1400rms, then i could give the type x a good clean, un-clipped 1000rms, might have to sell my kicker amp and get the alpine mono block..... or get different sub :cry: type-x's are so sexy though:doubt: dammit

What wattage is the sub?

sub is 1000RMS

Sorry to interrupt and take this off topic, but whats the advantage of a 4ohm sub over a lower ohm sub?

nothing really, it all comes down to what amp you have and wiring configurations, me personally, if i went for 2 subs id get dual 4's cos i can wire them to present 1ohm, getting the most out of my amp, if i got 1 sub, id get a dual 2, cos once again, it can be wired for a 1ohm load, but this is only cos my amp is stable at 1ohm, but any ways, scrap this thread, type x isnt on the cards any more, i dont have the power to run it, and id have to get another amp which is more dicking around, that and ive decided on either a focal 33kx 13" woofer, or a jl 12w6v2, gotta go audition them on friday as i havnt heard a 33kx before and theyre installing one into a commodore at the moment which means i can get a listen to one in a more realistic envirinment as opposed to a showroom sound board, on that note, i highly reccomend westside car audio in cannignton for all you w.a folks, great bunch of guys and extremely helpful :D

peace,
tom

The Type X will probably bore you. Depends on how loud you like your bass I suppose, you will need about 1kw to make that thing even move.

It great that you are listening to a few though. Remember though for SQ that you might not be best off running a sub @ 1 ohm...

you should ask ynot_69 about alpine type x subs, his lasted a week before the voice coils unwound, and since apine are so nice no warranty, he has since changed to a Hertz 12" spl and is more happy with the hertz than the alpine,


another thing i find interesting is that not a single car that enters sound off's at my work runs alpine subs,

^^^ There is just reason for that.

Good gear but with the options available, not something I would personally put in my car.

That Hertz HXS is quite a nasty sub, sounds great as well as loud, still doesn't play sub sonic Hz very well so stuck with the G5 :D

In my personal opinion and from someone that has worked at an audio shop before and seen and done several installation and compared a lot of equipment... even tho Alpine are an excellent brand and of top quality when it comes to hardware (head units and amps) i'm not a fun of their speakers or subs.

If you're after sound quality and don't mind spending your cash.. I would really be looking at MB Quarts, Boston, Focal or Eclipse in speakers. If you want clear deep tight bass then Boston or Rockford Fosgate would be my choice!... Even tho i would only ever choose or look at alpine head units and amps i would take a rockford amp over an alpine amp anyday

if i wanted a system with high SPL in mind i would consider Sounstream - the tarantula series or the Davinci amps and subs (rockford could also be a a good brand of choice on these set ups)

I plan on running a 12" Type-X powered by a PDX-1.1000

Depending on the discount I can get at Alberts in Perth by offering cash, along with my CAA membership, I may consider 2 x PDX-1.1000's powering my Type-X.

I am keen to go into bunnings and get the materials for my box and start making it - give me something to do.

Probably go for a 32mm MDF Sealed box and carpet cover it. Still not 100% sure on box dimensions and volume, cant get onto the CAA website to ask the folks. :cry:

Has anyone here heard a 12" Type-X running from 2000W-2200W RMS?

Has anyone here heard a 12" Type-X running from 2000W-2200W RMS?

probably wouldnt last long. they're rated at 1000WRMS, and the PDX puts out exactly that... so a single one would be fine :D

although if u got 2 amps, you could get 2 subs! :thumbsup:

probably wouldnt last long. they're rated at 1000WRMS, and the PDX puts out exactly that... so a single one would be fine :D

although if u got 2 amps, you could get 2 subs! :thumbsup:

Type-X's can handle 3000W, so 2000W for daily listening isnt bad.

PDX-1.1000's are rated at 1000W, but most birthsheets are along the lines of 1100-1150

If I had LOTS of cash, I would get the 2nd sub, but don't.

I'll prob stick with the single sub/amp combo unless I can get some cheap in Perth or some nice 2nd hand stuff :D

peak power and RMS are completely different. you will only need one amp

Yeah I know lol

But what I am saying, has anyone ever ran 2000W into a single Type-X before?

Would it be alright for daily listening? Or would 1000W be plenty?

I know 1000W starts making it move, but I want it to kick hard.

i managed to get around 135dB with the single 12 running off the 1 MRD-M1001 (similar specs to the PDX) then i realised the gains were set to 3/4 so could have gotten louder again! not that i'm complaing coz it still sounds fine the way it is

Yeah I know lol

But what I am saying, has anyone ever ran 2000W into a single Type-X before?

Would it be alright for daily listening? Or would 1000W be plenty?

I know 1000W starts making it move, but I want it to kick hard.

sorry mate but from the sounds of it you dont know much... 500rms will get the thing moving and making alot of noise, 1000rms is its optimal running power and what its designed to handle day in day out, give one of these 1000rms and youl be laughing... that and if your after something thats gonna kick hard look into some kicker solobarics os digital designs, the X is predominatly a sq woofer

Type-X's can handle 3000W, so 2000W for daily listening isnt bad.

PDX-1.1000's are rated at 1000W, but most birthsheets are along the lines of 1100-1150

If I had LOTS of cash, I would get the 2nd sub, but don't.

I'll prob stick with the single sub/amp combo unless I can get some cheap in Perth or some nice 2nd hand stuff :D

and theres a guy on silviawa.com selling type X's for 375 a pop. head over there and check it out

I know I don't know much - I do some reading here and there.

I was just asking about the 2000W thing.

Not everyone puts 500W into a 500W sub, or 200 into a 200.

I just want an answer, can it handle 2000W for daily driving and the occasional loud burst to show some mates.

edit; ty for silvia heads up :D

yeh it can, just set the gains appropriatly and it should be fine... you can run any sub off any amount of power (within reason ofcourse) just aslong as everythings set accordingly you shouldnt have any worries, but once again, i wouldnt bother running a type x off 2000rms, 1000 will be more than plenty for daily listening and wowing your friends... ive got 1500rms running 2 L7's in my car, set for daily listening they are stupidly loud, but its got a remote bass control unit with it, it very rarely gets turned up past 1/3rd of the way, that said, you want to buy them? lol... no really

Nah im right lol! :D

I guess i'll get the Type-X/PDX-1.1000 Alpine special for $1,499

Might get a further discount at Alberts if they still discount CAA members. :cool:

or you could by my kicker l7's and kicker kx1200 mono block for 900 :D would totally sh*t all over the type x, then 600 left over.... stinger 0 gauge wiring kit and dyna mat bulk pack (youd need it haha) theres a system good for 142's DO IT lol

Sorry mate, i'll let my other friend know.

Can you PM me some pics :)

Your in Perth righT?

see pics here http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43575 if you want some others let me know, yeh, in perth