well im looking at investing in either 19's or 20's (hopefully 20's)

in around january.

ive been looking all over the place and found many sets of wheels that i like and now im gettin into the more technical side, and before you write back with your smart assed comments, i HAVE used the search feature but it doesnt make sence to me.

what i want to know is if a load rating changes depending how wide it is. i.e is it possible to have 19's and still be legal ( i know in qld there isnt any way i can legally have 20's )

also.....what risk do i run with having a tyre that has a load rating of like 93 on my car, is it a much of a muchness or is it actually very dangerous.

some help would be great as ive got NO idea what to do

Load rating usually decreases as the tyre's profile (sidewall) reduces. That is, the lower profile you want your tyre, the harder it is to find one with a high load rating and the more expensive such a tyre will be.

Having a tyre fitted to a road car with a load rating lower than that specified on the tyre placcard is illegal, full stop, and you run the risk of having your insurance company leaving you high and dry in the event of a claim.

As for how safe it is to have a lower profile.. that depends on how much lower and what kind of driving you end up doing on it. A LR of 94 seems to be way over spec when you consider the weight of the magna, even with people in it, but the LR on a tyre isn't there just to accomodate the static weight of the vehicle.. consider that you're hammering into a corner at speed, straight away you've got a weight transfer to the outside tyres.. then imagine you have to hit the brakes - all of a sudden your outside front tyre is getting a significant portion of the car's weight loaded on to it, and this is where a tyre with a lower LR is going to hurt you.

it would be a long shot but do you hear of many people having problems with the wrong load rating??...in terms of tyres popping or anything.

im looking at a set of advanti VAPOUR wheels, that are 20x7.5

is there any way i could fit a legal rubber to that?....there are other wheels as well that are 20x8 also.

whats my best shot for filling my guards nicely.....i also want to lower it...but unsure how low to go with 20's or possibly 19's. i dont have a body kit i jus want it to sit nicely and not scrub out.

thanks :)

at the risk of being shot down in flames, the magna's are horribly over-specced in terms of load rating. my TJ (~1500kg) has a load rating of 94H, whereas my mates BA XR8 (~1700kg) has a load rating of 93H.

even though the ratings are high, it's still illegal (defectable and your insurance have every right not to cover you in an accident) to run tyres with lower load ratings.

in the long run, you're better off getting the right load rating.

cheers,
.wook

U seem to be caught between 2 different issues. Legality and physical fitment/looks and so forth.
I dunno about the laws in QLD, but I think they are similar to NSW here.
Basically u may go one size up from widest optional rim widht on the tyre placard. And note, just swapping any placard in to your door frame is not legal either.
So, if your car has std rim say 6" and widest optional same, u can go up to 7" rim max.
Tyre width can be up to 25 mm wider than std, so from 205 to 230. Well, there is no such width, so u would need to stick to 225. Note, u may not install a 235 to 7" rim either.
Overall diameter of the wheel has to be + - 15 mm from original size.
Web site to assist http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
Do your maths there.:)

at the risk of being shot down in flames, the magna's are horribly over-specced in terms of load rating. my TJ (~1500kg) has a load rating of 94H, whereas my mates BA XR8 (~1700kg) has a load rating of 93H.

even though the ratings are high, it's still illegal (defectable and your insurance have every right not to cover you in an accident) to run tyres with lower load ratings.

in the long run, you're better off getting the right load rating.

cheers,
.wook
:stoopid:
Practicly a 93 will be fine, legally it wont be.
Insurance company will only void your insurance if they had any reason to believe your tyres caused the accident.

Eg. they can't knock back your claim if someone torches your car.

at the risk of being shot down in flames, the magna's are horribly over-specced in terms of load rating. my TJ (~1500kg) has a load rating of 94H, whereas my mates BA XR8 (~1700kg) has a load rating of 93H.
cheers,
.wook

Yeap! Way over. And this also reduces the correct, legal (non std, like 17") tyre selection from dozens to - a handful...:cry:

U seem to be caught between 2 different issues. Legality and physical fitment/looks and so forth.
I dunno about the laws in QLD, but I think they are similar to NSW here.
Basically u may go one size up from widest optional rim widht on the tyre placard. And note, just swapping any placard in to your door frame is not legal either.
So, if your car has std rim say 6" and widest optional same, u can go up to 7" rim max.
Tyre width can be up to 25 mm wider than std, so from 205 to 230. Well, there is no such width, so u would need to stick to 225. Note, u may not install a 235 to 7" rim either.
Overall diameter of the wheel has to be + - 15 mm from original size.
Web site to assist http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
Do your maths there.:)
I agree with you 95%, the 5% is just me being picky, and that's the rule doesn't mention anything about the tyre placard, it's just what the widest optional wheel of that series is.
Even if your tyre placard says 6inch on a TJ, you can legally go 8 inch because of the sports pack or the vr-x/ralliart pack.

I agree with you 95%, the 5% is just me being picky, and that's the rule doesn't mention anything about the tyre placard, it's just what the widest optional wheel of that series is.
Even if your tyre placard says 6inch on a TJ, you can legally go 8 inch because of the sports pack or the vr-x/ralliart pack.

Placard usually states the std size and then optional if that particular model comes with VRX etc version. And those ones can increase up to 8", cos VRX has 7" as std - I assume. But, one needs to stick to the placard info, unfortunately.

Placard usually states the std size and then optional if that particular model comes with VRX etc version. And those ones can increase up to 8", cos VRX has 7" as std - I assume. But, one needs to stick to the placard info, unfortunately.
My placard doesn't, and my car is a TJII. In the official ADR's and state rules, it doesn't specify the tyre placard needs to be followed in regards to rim width. Load rating yes, but not rim width. You only need to follow the factory options offered with that series.

All good info here.. it seems the general consensus is that mitsubishi goes a bit over the top with all their precautions.. eg tyre load ratings and the size of the front wheel arch.

I think most people running 19/20s are doing so with illegal tyres in terms of load rating. It's highly unlikely that you'll roll a tyre off a rim or have a blowout. Also more than half of people running 17*7" rims are running 235 tyres which are too wide, but we still do it.

At the end of the day you've got to decide whether you want to cover your bases and satisfy the legalities or just be realistic and take the tiny risk.

My placard doesn't, and my car is a TJII. In the official ADR's and state rules, it doesn't specify the tyre placard needs to be followed in regards to rim width. Load rating yes, but not rim width. You only need to follow the factory options offered with that series.

It doesn't? Ok then. Vic rules might be different to NSW, as I stated that my ref was of NSW RTA only.

It doesn't? Ok then. Vic rules might be different to NSW, as I stated that my ref was of NSW RTA only.
Last time i checked the NSW RTA had the same stance, i'll see if i can find it.

*EDIT*

Look here: http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi09_rev4.pdf
It only states that "we recommend you follow the tyre placard for safety".
It then says a few paragraphs down that:
Wheels up to 26mm wider than the largest optional wheel recommended by the vehicle manufacturer for the
vehicle can be fitted without the need to notify the RTA.

QLD used to have a rule about rim width but it's gone. Insurers however will probably still maintain either a 1 inch permissible increase or a nominal maximum allowable width based on model.

The process is find out the roadworthy limits then find out what you're insurable for.

QLD used to have a rule about rim width but it's gone. Insurers however will probably still maintain either a 1 inch permissible increase or a nominal maximum allowable width based on model.

The process is find out the roadworthy limits then find out what you're insurable for.
Yeh some insurance companies still have the 2" bigger rims rule :nuts:, but most are updating their policies to say "As long as they're legal, they're all good". That's what mine (RACV) are saying now.

****kkkk now i got no idea what to get :( lol

****kkkk now i got no idea what to get :( lol

Get some 19s if you're keen on the idea, dont make them fugly make them tasteful, put some tyres with a close enough load rating on and be polite to cops if you're pulled over. Probably more like to die from choking on your tongue than not gettin insurance or getting defected.

My placard doesn't, and my car is a TJII. In the official ADR's and state rules, it doesn't specify the tyre placard needs to be followed in regards to rim width. Load rating yes, but not rim width. You only need to follow the factory options offered with that series.

iirc, its not model as in th-tj all that, its specific as in ecex vrx n that, thats why old commo drivers find the sle badges and such, saying that, you stick a vrx badge on your car, put the placard on there fine, if you stick a vrx placard on and leave exec badges on then it may end badly.

thats the way understand from what i was taught when i was working with tyres.

iirc, its not model as in th-tj all that, its specific as in ecex vrx n that, thats why old commo drivers find the sle badges and such, saying that, you stick a vrx badge on your car, put the placard on there fine, if you stick a vrx placard on and leave exec badges on then it may end badly.

thats the way understand from what i was taught when i was working with tyres.
What i'm saying is the VR-X and sports (i think moreso sports) were offered as "packs". So they are an exec with a "sports" pack. A "pack" is a factory option. That factory option had 7" wide wheels.
That's where i'm coming from :).

iirc, its not model as in th-tj all that, its specific as in ecex vrx n that, thats why old commo drivers find the sle badges and such, saying that, you stick a vrx badge on your car, put the placard on there fine, if you stick a vrx placard on and leave exec badges on then it may end badly.

thats the way understand from what i was taught when i was working with tyres.


That's pretty old fashioned if you asked me. I could easily grab your VIN and tell you whether you really have a VRX or not.




What i'm saying is the VR-X and sports (i think moreso sports) were offered as "packs". So they are an exec with a "sports" pack. A "pack" is a factory option. That factory option had 7" wide wheels.


Unfortunately Mitsubishi don't see Sports and VR-X's as 'packs' on top of a base model, it certainly wasn't classified as a 'factory option'. Once again, this is backed by the major identification code in the VIN describing the vehicle's actual class lineup.

Unfortunately Mitsubishi don't see Sports and VR-X's as 'packs' on top of a base model, it certainly wasn't classified as a 'factory option'. Once again, this is backed by the major identification code in the VIN describing the vehicle's actual class lineup.
Yep. You can't say "But the VRX version has 7" wide rims so I can have 9" wide rims" It doesn't work like that.

For the OP; Just get legal rims and tyres.