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Redav
06-01-2004, 05:23 PM
Any one got them? If so, are you happy with them? What specs are they? What load rating are they?

bLAdEbLA
06-01-2004, 05:48 PM
Falkens are absoloutely unbelieveable. My wheels are huge width wise - 255's) so falkens were an obvious choice as the grip (rubber), traction and water/solid dispersing abilities(tread pattern) are incredible. I have falken Azenis St-115 on the front - they are incredible, they control torque steer and have unbelieveable wet ability.

On the back I have 451's (almost top of the line) and they are even better than the 115's so they keep the rear end in place. They may be some of the best performance tyres available (without going pro..) but they come at a price. They wear quite quickly (almost double any standard tyre) and at $300 bucks + per tyre they AREN'T cheap. But in my opinion if you really want to enjoy your driving, on the road or on the track you can't go past them.

Manual
07-01-2004, 08:39 AM
yeah - i have flakens fitted on my 18's - i didn't get the pleasure of the ST-115's or the IK-451's straight up - instead I have the Ziex 326s in 235/40 ZR18

They are brilliant - but then - compared to 205/65 H15 Pirelli P6000's there is no competition!!

I have only had them for 2 weeks so i can't say wear is an issue yet - and as for replacement costs - again only had them two weeks - though i would like to upgrade to the IK-451's when these where out!!

I like em - brilliant tyres!

Manual

Redav
07-01-2004, 09:05 AM
They are brilliant - but then - compared to 205/65 H15 Pirelli P6000's there is no competition!!

You're saying Pirelli are crap? They don't seem to go too well in the tyre tests in Wheels or Motor.

Manual
07-01-2004, 09:39 AM
no - i am saying 205/65 pirellis are crap compared to 235/40 falkens - i didn't say direct comparison - but yeah apples to oranges buddy - i meant i had nothing to comapre them directly against!!

I have never had anything in this size before

Manual

Bain
07-01-2004, 11:03 AM
I cant comment on the Falken range, but i can comment on some Eagles.

I got a set of 225/50 ZR17 Eagle F1 GS-D3 (http://www.goodyear.com.au/showtyregood.php?tyre=0000000161662) for a total of $1400

My 1400 include wheel alignment, warranty (allows me to get puncture repairs for free at any Beaurepairs) and some other crap. Worked out to be $319 for each tyre by itself without all the additional stuff they do.

Killer
07-01-2004, 11:33 AM
I have A 326 235/45/17 ZR
Dunno about the load rating, but it says 620 Kg max load. Enuff....?
I have had them before and they lasted as any other similar tyre in similar price range. I like them. To give u or anyone a 100% comparison I would have needed to drive all tyres in the same car on similar weather - so my statement is based on different/same tyres on different/same cars over some 20 yrs. They cost me some 200+ bux per tyre (package with ROH). I will contiunue buying them in future.
I know they are not the best on the market - but WAY better than similar PRICE range Dunlops or Bridges.
Hope this helps u Redav.
Oh, mileage? Previous car (4.1 Cortina) 35'000 km of hooning. BTW - I sold my Cortina to a guy up in GC a year ago. Seen a low, yellow -78 TE Cordy around?


Any one got them? If so, are you happy with them? What specs are they? What load rating are they?

Warps
07-01-2004, 11:39 AM
I have been running the ZEIX 326 on mine (225/50 x 17) and they are pretty ordinary as far as grip goes, but good as far as wear goes. (have fitted 6 new tyres in 130,000km)

When they wear, the grip goes away unbelievably. Last replacement, I put a pair of Dunlop LM702's on (about $50 per tyre dearer than the Falkens) and they are 100% better than the Falkens ever were.

The Falkens are now nothing more than a low budget tyre, competing with the likes of Nankang, so don't expect brilliant performance from them.

That's not to say that other Falkens are no good. The Azeni's are brilliant (from all accounts) and I've had a great run with Falken rally tyres over the years.

vlad
07-01-2004, 11:49 AM
Yep. I've got 225/50 ZR16 Goodyear F1 GS-D3 as well and they are very
good, especially in the wet.

Killer
07-01-2004, 01:36 PM
FAQ - did somebody mention FAQ?
Would be great if we had another FAQ post on things like tyres.
Rims are more for looks etc, but tyres are for real.
There is so many brands, types, prices etc. And preferences!
Why one likes as a good feature, the other one hates. How could we make this thing more as a fact-thing than opinions or "I just happened to buy them and they are ok" thing?
Heh - who would like to work on this issue?
The way I see it, is that if one has been using different tyres on same car/suspension it is valuable info. Cos different cars with same tyres perform differently due to weight, balance, suspension etc.
I don't think there is a real easy black-white solution here. Maybe budget is the most desiding matter when buying tyres?
Any ideas guys?
Does it sound like I'm passionate about tyres? U bet! 8)

And no smartass comments about rubbers now, guys..... :?

Redav
07-01-2004, 01:39 PM
And no smartass comments about rubbers now, guys..... :?

Eww... I have no use for those.

How about tyre noise?

Manual
07-01-2004, 01:49 PM
between the stereo, the zorst note, the wind noise from teh window down at 100km/h i can't hear the tyres!!

Manual

Warps
07-01-2004, 03:02 PM
The Falkens got very noisy as they wore out, to the point I thought I had a crook wheel bearing.

As for load ratings, be careful when buying 45 series tyres for your Magna. Most 45 series tyres don't have sufficient load rating (94 I think is the minimum load rating for a Magna). Make sure you check this properly before buying.

I'm well aware of the fact that lardarse commodores and Falcons fit 40 series rubber at the factory. That's a decision made by their Engineers, and they deem it ok. Mitsubishi Engineers have decided that Magnas need a tyre rated at 94 (I think - just check your tyre plackard), so we can't go fitting lesser rated tyres to the car.

The other thing I found is that most 235/45 x 17 tyres can't be fitted to a rim any narrower than 7.5". I've had arguments with tyre fitteres and tyre shop owners, and they all end up eating humble pie when they pull out their bible and check for themselves. "But we've been fitting 235/45's to 7" rims for years" they'd usually cry. even though these guys are supposed to take responsibility for these things, they can still get it wrong. Let the buyer beware.

I agree about the importance of tyres. Too many people don't give them enough consideration, and will often slap anything they can afford onto their 18" or 19" rims.

bLAdEbLA
07-01-2004, 03:24 PM
I agree about the importance of tyres. Too many people don't give them enough consideration, and will often slap anything they can afford onto their 18" or 19" rims.

Yup that'd be about right. Took me a few weeks to decide which tyre I wanted. I'll also agree with the noise - but with the width of the rims I'm using, I'm used to it already.

gremlin
07-01-2004, 04:41 PM
Ive got 225/50 on my TR

Good tyres for the price you pay i reckon.

PSI_GTSII
07-01-2004, 04:42 PM
I run 235/35/18 Falkens...............comments.........Noisy ;)

Redav
08-01-2004, 07:14 AM
As for load ratings, be careful when buying 45 series tyres for your Magna. Most 45 series tyres don't have sufficient load rating (94 I think is the minimum load rating for a Magna). Make sure you check this properly before buying.

I'm well aware of the fact that lardarse commodores and Falcons fit 40 series rubber at the factory. That's a decision made by their Engineers, and they deem it ok. Mitsubishi Engineers have decided that Magnas need a tyre rated at 94 (I think - just check your tyre plackard), so we can't go fitting lesser rated tyres to the car.

TF's have a load rating of 95 :(

I'm going to go R17/225/50's. Any idea if Falken have 95 rated stuff? Their website is useless.

vlad
08-01-2004, 09:15 AM
[quote:caf1f220b1="Warps"]As for load ratings, be careful when buying 45 series tyres for your Magna. Most 45 series tyres don't have sufficient load rating (94 I think is the minimum load rating for a Magna). Make sure you check this properly before buying.

I'm well aware of the fact that lardarse commodores and Falcons fit 40 series rubber at the factory. That's a decision made by their Engineers, and they deem it ok. Mitsubishi Engineers have decided that Magnas need a tyre rated at 94 (I think - just check your tyre plackard), so we can't go fitting lesser rated tyres to the car.

TF's have a load rating of 95 :(

I'm going to go R17/225/50's. Any idea if Falken have 95 rated stuff? Their website is useless.[/quote:caf1f220b1]

You can go to mitsu dealers and get it replated to 94 rating.

Killer
09-01-2004, 09:37 AM
Bit noisy yes, but not that much that it really bothers. I can always turn down the hearing aid....


How about tyre noise?

kewlsolara
09-01-2004, 07:03 PM
Had Ziex 512 (215/60/15) on my old TH solara

Falken tyres = noisey as hell , i mean you can simply feel the difference after switching from stocks.

Wet performance = of the line heaps of tyre spin even on the slow revs.

but no matter what their road grip while driving in wet is 2nd to none.

dry performance = wheel spin but again very good grip over all.

teK--
09-03-2004, 06:33 PM
That's because the Ziex are a budget tyre; I'd only use them as a burnout tyre.


Had Ziex 512 (215/60/15) on my old TH solara

Falken tyres = noisey as hell , i mean you can simply feel the difference after switching from stocks.

Wet performance = of the line heaps of tyre spin even on the slow revs.

but no matter what their road grip while driving in wet is 2nd to none.

dry performance = wheel spin but again very good grip over all.

sola|2a
09-03-2004, 07:50 PM
have ziex 326 235/45/r17 ... dont drive real hard so they r good enuf for me... would be interested to c what happens after suspension mods though

once i just decided to yank the accelerator a bit at the lights and just slight sqeak... overall i think they r fine but would like to try something else later

Altera98
10-03-2004, 11:55 AM
I have a full comparo of all the 235/45/17's done by Wheels in Nov 03, cant remember it all but the surprise performer was the Hancook for performance all round and very cheap, the Toyo Proxes F1 came out as crap. I Can check on the Falkens rating.
A very overhyped tyre is the Dunlop SP sport with silica, we have these on our new Camrys at work- (thrash em) :D these are just average.

In performance tyres I have had, Bridgestone G-grid i found excellent for lateral-cornering grip, and Goodyear Eagle GT4 in 235 unbelievable in longitudinal grip-braking. for wet weather cant beat a uni-directional pattern.

megatron
10-03-2004, 03:35 PM
i agree with WARPS on both accounts

HotVRX
11-03-2004, 06:30 PM
After 3 years of wear problems, and arguments with crap locally owned major tyre franchisees, i switched to a smaller company who recommended Falken, the car has never handled so well and now wear isnt an issue, from what ive experienced - BLOODY GREAT!!!

Jut
16-03-2004, 07:57 PM
Just checked the placard on my 3.5L TH it says load rating 94

Redav
17-03-2004, 10:54 AM
Sounds dodgy. What model TH is it? I'd query Mitsubishi before trusting the placard.

Jut
18-03-2004, 03:42 PM
it's a 99 TH 3.5L XS Tourer its legit dude...I've checked it out

blazian_princess
19-03-2004, 02:36 PM
i got 235/55/18 zr on mine n they r shyt in d wet...

SiNERGY
19-03-2004, 02:42 PM
I had Falken Ziex 205/40/17, they were good at first but they wore out really quick and fell apart!!

My friends use the ST115's they are a nice tyre. I have Bridgestone now, they have lasted a lot longer although the wet weather grip isn't as good.