Hi guys,

Just looking around for a better way to integrate an iPod into my 380 VRX with no luck. Currently using a Belkin FM adapter but want something better. The US Mitsubishi cars have an interface (see info pics) which plugs directly into the 13 pin DIN connector on the back of the head unit but I can't get any confirmation that the version of the head unit in Oz supports the connection of this interface. Anyone out there know if this is the case?

Head unit number in my VRX is MN141332. Enquiries in the US list unit numbers around this but not this specific series. The interface is cheap enough at around US$150 (AU$200) but if the software in the head unit won't drive the interface then it's money wasted. If anybody has any info they can share I would appreciate it. Anyone know of plans to release a compatible version in Oz? Cheers...

Zarbs

to be honest mate, if its possible.....buy a better HU with ipod input supported....that way you can install it however you like with no hassles :D

Yeah, I was considering this but the matching head unit is around US$750. The install notes I have seen refer to the 13 pin DIN port as the sattelite navigation connection port. As this is an option in Oz I am guessing that our installed head units will match those in the US. I'm supposing that the install of the navigatiion option in Oz sees the stock head unit used though.

I can always buy the adapater and then add the compatible head unit in future if the Oz version does not work. Thanks for the feedback...

Zarbs

It would be a much better idea just to get a completely new head unit than to bother with the current 380/what ever they call them in the US.

yeah, i have been recommended Alpine as they have the best/fasted integration and only need a cable, whereas some need a box under the passenger seat as connected between ipod and stereo and they're only around $500 or so (in NZ at least)

but i can understand wanting to keep the factory stereo since it is better integrated than an aftermarket one (which is why i have not upgraded yet)

I'd rather keep the factory head unit as it sits under the facia for the climate control unit and it would be much harder to replace as a whole...

Zarbs

Would be great for MMAL if they got these parts working in not just the 380 but their entire range. Not many, if any manufacturers support iPod in Australia do they? Certainly not like in the US anyway.

Not to mention a bit of cross brand marketing with Apple... make a big deal of it.. give away 20 iPods and a car :)

But what am I thinking.. I don't even like the iPod :(

you can afford a 380 vrx but not a $750 head unit?

get that on credit too :D

I'd rather keep the factory head unit as it sits under the facia for the climate control unit and it would be much harder to replace as a whole...

Hard? I'd say next to impossible. The factory head unit (VRX has the 6 CD changer version) is totally integrated with the centre console air conditioner controls. You'd have to start by getting a whole new centre console from a 380 ES and fitting the new deck in the slot where the single CD player sits.

I have purchased the interface from the USA and it is being shipped via my US mailbox (they won't ship outside the USA). Will have in the new year. I will see what functionality is available on the head unit I currently have installed, which is the integrated CD changer model.

The interface is compatible with US head units all the way back to 2004 when the Galant first appeared in the new shape. It also works in all other US Mitsubishi vehicles from 2004 to 2006. This includes the whole US range, incl the Evo with it's external 6 disc changer, though an auxiliary cable is also required to patch the external changer to the iPod interface.

Other head units in Australia may support the unit. It connects via the 13 pin DIN plug (see photo below) which is used for the satellite navigation system on the 380 and other Mitsubishi cars both here and in the USA. Strange that Mitsubishi Australia have not made this available. They may be waiting for the next model update.

The high end head unit in the US which supports the interface is from the GTS and has an external amplifier which comes with the unit. RRP is US$1085 but the site has it for US$750 or thereabouts. They also have the units from the lower models which are for sale at around US$500. I have no qualms with buying the head unit but will wait and see whether the current unit supports it.

I'll keep this thread updated with my progress, install photos and the outcome. Cheers...

Zarbs

Theres a good chance it will work. I was told it was going to be an option on the 380's a long time ago, before the name was even announced.

LONG POST - SORRY...

The iPod adapter arrived from the US and it took around 15 minutes to install for testing. The very small adapter box (see pic) has four DIP switches which need to be set for the particular head unit. A cable with a 13 pin DIN connector goes to the head unit and a cable with an iPod dock connector goes to the glove box.

The default DIP settings are all ON but this did not work. I turned them all OFF and then the system started working straight away. The only change I had to make was to turn DIP’s 3 and 4 back ON as these affect how the iPod plays and how the SCAN function of the CD controls behaves.

Once the adapter is installed, you have your normal FM and AM radio bands and two CD decks. The in-dash stacker is CD1 and the iPod is seen as a 10 disk stacker on CD2. All of the controls work on both the dash and the steering wheel. You stick the iPod in the glove box and forget about it. The car charges the iPod when the ignition is on or in ACC.

The first 10 playlists on the iPod are seen as the CD’s. You just set up your playlists in iTunes and then upload them to the iPod. I have mine numbered as 0. Faves, 1. Ambient, 2. XXX, 3. XXX and so on. This ensures the playlists selected are the ones you want. The system plays from 1 to 10 and then plays from 1 again. Buttons 5 and 6 on the dash of the player select the next and previous CD/playlist. The buttons on the steering wheel act the same.

You can change the behaviour by setting DIP 3 to OFF. In this mode the system sees the iPod as a continuous playlist and starts from the first song through to the last, 100 songs at a time. Using button 5 and 6 selects the next and previous 100 songs.

In both modes, the SCAN button on the fascia will scan all songs in a playlist or on the iPod, playing for a few seconds until you find the song/playlist you want. Likewise, the RANDOM and REPEAT buttons work as you would expect. If you have a Bluetooth car kit, then the iPod pauses when making or receiving a call on the phone when it is paired with the car.

The only thing to watch is the mounting point. The US install document lists a mounting point behind the glove box which does not exist in the 380. The Galant bracket is bolted to the main cross brace of the dash subframe, where you mount the adapter with supplied double sided tape. Without this mount I fitted the small adapter behind the wiring loom against the padding of the firewall (see pic) just near my after market Bluetooth car kit speaker. I had been running the unit for some time in hot weather to test the temperature of the unit but it never got hot at all so the location I have installed the unit will ensure it does not overheat nor cause undue vibration.

There is an incoming air vent just below the point where cool air comes in to cool the head unit. Any points where I thought there would be rubbing were padded with adhesive backed rubber tape on both the wiring loom and the adapter case (see pic) so there are no chances of the adapter rubbing through insulation. I’ll check it regularly just to be on the safe side.

The cables are long enough to run all the way to the console compartment but you would need to cut out the base to allow entry. The glove box (see pic) is close and easy to lock when you leave the car. The controls on the face of the iPod are disabled when connected to the car anyway so there is no need to see the iPod. The excess iPod cable was lashed to the air duct for the left passenger vent (see pic) with a tie cable and the rubber tape was used again to prevent rubbing of the tie against the cable itself.

The LCD display (see pic) of the car is able to show the CD, disk number, song number and the time, in minutes and seconds, into the currently playing song. All in all I am happy with the way it works and it is as I expected it to be. I purchased the adapter on eBay from the USA though they only ship to a US mailing address, which I have. US MSRP (RRP to us) is $200 but it was $154 on eBay plus shipping. All up it was about AU$230 landed here. Not bad considering the 3rd party options, if they are available for you car, are $280 and up. I can recommend this option to anyone wanting to integrate their iPod. The install doco lists all US models so the Oz equivalent should work similarly. PM me if you want more info. Cheers…

Zarbs

nice work mate.. i am hoping to buy a 380 VRX this year. And i was wondering what to do about ipod intergration seeing as thats all i use in my car now. so hopefully when i get it, i can do the same as you..

This post should be stickied in the 380 forum :)

do you think it would be possible using this interface to trick the headunit into playing from a pc. could we get pc software to imitate the ipod perhaps?
idea is forming:D
(sorry for thread mine btw)

Hi guys,

Just looking around for a better way to integrate an iPod into my 380 VRX with no luck. Currently using a Belkin FM adapter but want something better. The US Mitsubishi cars have an interface (see info pics) which plugs directly into the 13 pin DIN connector on the back of the head unit but I can't get any confirmation that the version of the head unit in Oz supports the connection of this interface. Anyone out there know if this is the case?

Head unit number in my VRX is MN141332. Enquiries in the US list unit numbers around this but not this specific series. The interface is cheap enough at around US$150 (AU$200) but if the software in the head unit won't drive the interface then it's money wasted. If anybody has any info they can share I would appreciate it. Anyone know of plans to release a compatible version in Oz? Cheers...

Zarbs

hi zarbs
the ipod unit you are talking about works great in the 380 head units but they will only work in the ones that have the 6 cd stacker in them as there units are the same as ours i have imported 8 of these for people and fitted 6 of them and they work great as for doing an oz release no they aren't going to bother as for price on these it all depends on the currency conversion at the time cheers liam

Huh?

Sorry but your reply is to a question from two years ago. The answer was posted in my "Success" post above which mentions the fact that it works with the CD stacker version. Old news this thread, I've had the iPod interface in for that long. I now use this interface with my iPhone 3G with no problems other than needing the Firewire to USB power adapter plug in the cable connection chain so the phone charges correctly...

Zarbs

Old thread but will add to it given the great information it contains.

Purchased Ipod Adapter from the US which arrived on Friday $250 delivered.

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=214331

Following instructions supplied and found here very simple install.

Also plays music from wifes Iphone.

Thanks to Zarbs, Liam and others who posted their experiences.

Cheers

I installed mine a few days ago with help from zarb (via PM) as well. Great piece of kit. Some annoying things it does but overall works as promised.

I actually got mine a tad cheaper from ebay motors US.

I mounted mine under the actual stereo I had a place to double tape it down, directly behind the fan/AC controls

Would this work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/MITSUBISHI-Mirage-GALANT-Evolution-Diamante-iPOD-MODULE_W0QQitemZ270494433075QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_ DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3efab97f33#ht_2656wt_1167

I would personally go for a replacement dash facia - 50bux
PAC-SWI Steering wheel interface 80bux
Cheap CD Tuner/Head unit with iPod integration - 250

Food for thought.

I like the look of the stock 6 CD stacker, the use of the radio controls on the rear of the steering wheel, the factory bluetooth and the fact it is all integrated into the screen. No thanks :)

If I can find the pinouts for the DIN I'll make my own, does anyone know where I can find them?

I like the look of the stock 6 CD stacker, the use of the radio controls on the rear of the steering wheel, the factory bluetooth and the fact it is all integrated into the screen. No thanks :)
+1 :eeek:

Would this work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/MITSUBISHI-Mirage-GALANT-Evolution-Diamante-iPOD-MODULE_W0QQitemZ270494433075QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_ DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3efab97f33#ht_2656wt_1167

This link lists a 10-pin DIN but the actual factory interface has a 13-pin DIN plug on the genuine part we are using. There are a number of different units available in the US as they have a large number of head units across the model range. Check this URL for the install doco for the factory unit:

http://www.mitsubishiparts.net/catalog/mitsubishi/ipodadapter-install.pdf

Disregard the reference to the external 6-stacker unit as this was used for the previous (and maybe current) Lancer model. Cheers...

Zarbs

Thanks Zarbs.

While we're on Ipods here, I'm planning to get one very soon (as soon as prices drop more), but don't want to touch the standard intergrated sound system. As an alternative option to upgrading the head unit, what are the FM transmitters like? What's a good one to get?

so, to ask possibly a silly question in an old thread - does anyone have a wiring diagram of what's inside this little box? My partner has a great idea of making one themself (even tho im not sure it would be that easy, but you never know)

Hey guys

Havent posted here in, god knows how long, but the wife is now pestering for a better IPOD control for the 380 (she's sick of dodgy FM).

So, has anyone found any new suppliers/better prices for this?

Cheers

Jimmy

Nope I aint seen any

Nope I aint seen any there's one on ebay at the moment... http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mitsubishi-380-ipod-adapter-/150573132783?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item230edbabef

I fitted one of these to my wifes 2005 380 GT 2 weeks ago and she loves it. Very simple to install.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ipod-Adapter-Galant-Eclipse-Endeavor-Montero-/200520163585?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item2eafeee101#ht_565wt_905

I have purchased the interface from the USA and it is being shipped via my US mailbox (they won't ship outside the USA). Will have in the new year. I will see what functionality is available on the head unit I currently have installed, which is the integrated CD changer model.

The interface is compatible with US head units all the way back to 2004 when the Galant first appeared in the new shape. It also works in all other US Mitsubishi vehicles from 2004 to 2006. This includes the whole US range, incl the Evo with it's external 6 disc changer, though an auxiliary cable is also required to patch the external changer to the iPod interface.

Other head units in Australia may support the unit. It connects via the 13 pin DIN plug (see photo below) which is used for the satellite navigation system on the 380 and other Mitsubishi cars both here and in the USA. Strange that Mitsubishi Australia have not made this available. They may be waiting for the next model update.

The high end head unit in the US which supports the interface is from the GTS and has an external amplifier which comes with the unit. RRP is US$1085 but the site has it for US$750 or thereabouts. They also have the units from the lower models which are for sale at around US$500. I have no qualms with buying the head unit but will wait and see whether the current unit supports it.

I'll keep this thread updated with my progress, install photos and the outcome. Cheers...

Zarbs

hi Zarbs
i used to import the ipod adapter units in to here they are still about the same price as they are selling on ebay but have since found an other ipod cable that is used on other models of mit's
mmcs units like the one in your pic the 380 came out in basic audio unit and the 6cd stacker unit if you have the 6cd one then this cable will work on it if any one wont's one i will post up
the part number for it and the price tomorrow
cheers liam

hi so true takes about 5 mins to install

l want for my car just cant afford it at the moment

I've read on AMC several times that people don't think the ipod adapter works on the single CD player head unit on the 380, but has anyone actually confirmed this (ie pulled one out, checked what connectors it has and tried plugging it in?)
I've never come across someone who has said "I've tried it, doesn't work", and just wanting to know for sure.

I've read on AMC several times that people don't think the ipod adapter works on the single CD player head unit on the 380, but has anyone actually confirmed this (ie pulled one out, checked what connectors it has and tried plugging it in?)
I've never come across someone who has said "I've tried it, doesn't work", and just wanting to know for sure.

Hi i can tell you that it will only work with the one with the 6cd stacker in it if you take the head unit out and look on the back and if you see a small round din plug spot then it will work for you
if it does not have that then it wont but there is a ipod cable that mit's have that should do the same as the adapter i will get one from work and test it out on a 380 at work and see if it will do the same as the ipod adapter from the usa and if it does then i will post on here with price for one
cheers liam

hi Zarbs
i used to import the ipod adapter units in to here they are still about the same price as they are selling on ebay but have since found an other ipod cable that is used on other models of mit's
mmcs units like the one in your pic the 380 came out in basic audio unit and the 6cd stacker unit if you have the 6cd one then this cable will work on it if any one wont's one i will post up
the part number for it and the price tomorrow
cheers liam

Hi Liam, can you please post the part number and cost of the cable. Also does it allow full control of the iPod / iPhone such as next track control from the head unit, or is it simply basic audio pass through only?

If its basic control only, I will purchase the more complex unit from the US.

Hi Liam, can you please post the part number and cost of the cable. Also does it allow full control of the iPod / iPhone such as next track control from the head unit, or is it simply basic audio pass through only?

If its basic control only, I will purchase the more complex unit from the US.
hi the one from usa is not that much difference you can use the scan control on the audio fascia and on the steering wheel controls that is the usa one i am going to test one tomorrow and the price for it is about $90.00 retail if it does the same thing i will let you guys know i can get the unit for $80 trade price will also put up the part number once it is tested first . But i am pretty sure that it should do the same as it works well on the outlander and lancer that have the mmcs units in them as i have installed these at my work which happens to be mit's
cheers liam

hi all sorry to say the ipod cable i was looking at does not work on the 380 audio unit tried it out today at work but kept getting an error code so it was telling me it wont work
cheers liam

I got the adapter from US Ebay, can't wait to get it. Gotta set up some playlists.

I fitted one of these to my wifes 2005 380 GT 2 weeks ago and she loves it. Very simple to install.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ipod-Adapter-Galant-Eclipse-Endeavor-Montero-/200520163585?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item2eafeee101#ht_565wt_905

Hi

Do you know if it works with iPhone 3gs?

Terry

Hi

Do you know if it works with iPhone 3gs?

Terry
Yep I used to have one & it works with the 4 as well.

Adapter installed. I placed mine above the Parrot BT unit underneath the stacker. I had some foam I stuck to it which wedged it in there nicely.

I need to get cracking on those playlists!

I took a friend from work home tonight and he plugged his Iphone 4 into the adaptor. It played the playlist fine but gave an error about being unsupported for charging. Has anyone with an Iphone 4 found this problem?

I took a friend from work home tonight and he plugged his Iphone 4 into the adaptor. It played the playlist fine but gave an error about being unsupported for charging. Has anyone with an Iphone 4 found this problem?

My iphone 4 is fine, what iphone/ipod are you running? I did install an adaptor thingo inline with mine a couple of years back when they bought out the latest ipod/iphones with the different charge setup.

My Ipod classic is fine, his is an Iphone 4 which I figured I'd test as I am thinking about getting an Iphone 5. I'll see if he knows about the adaptor for charging, I didn't know about it. That's probably why yours works?

Yeah the last series of ipods they changed the usb charge voltage or something so you will probably find if you pluged your classic charger into the iphone 4 it wouldnt charge.

Cool, my friend did say he knew about the different charging rates. Where did you get your adaptor?

I got mine from the US can't remember now .... long time ago. I'm sure a quick google search would make it all clear for you.

So, something like this?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/iPod-iPhone-3GS-4-Charge-Adapter-Converter-12V-5V-/260689134210?pt=AU_Electronics_Portable_Audio_Acce ssories&hash=item3cb2488282

Yep mine looks similar

Cool, thanks.

So, if I buy one of these...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ipod-Adapter-Galant-Eclipse-Endeavor-Montero-/200520163585?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item2eafeee101

I'll be sweet to plug my iPod into it and have it run through the stock 380 sound system? Or would I be better off getting a Parrot system installed and have bluetooth aswell?

Yep that one plugs in the rear of the headunit & comes up as CD2 on the display. I just sold & posted mine off , could've saved you some good $$$'s ...... oh well.

As long as you have the 6 stack cd player, yes.

How has everyone else s Iphones been working with these? Mine has been behaving erratically.

Once while playing a play list it started out of but then began playing songs not from the list at all, sort of random tracks. I think this may have happened to my Ipod once when I used it on a trip, so perhaps a quirk.

The weirder thing is sometimes it doesn't seem to work, even though it connects. It was then I discovered that in these times I can actually use the Iphone itself to play songs directly through the stereo, all the controls on the phone worked it played nicely through the stereo.

It pretty much did this all of today, and I've been using my Iphone 4S since getting my mounting kit, so it sits in the holder and connects.

The other weird thing is it no longer seems to be charging, though it did do it when I first got the phone and charged it on a trip, though with the inline voltage adapter it was a fine line to keep it connected due to my case, so I didn't do much else with it then.

Now though when it connects the battery picture comes up but the charging symbol is not there, it's the finished charging symbol, like its at 100%, and it will actually lose a percent or two while driving around and playing music.

I have an extension cable coming so I can plug the voltage adapter in behind the console somewhere and have just a regular 30pin cable plugging into the mount, for neatness.

It was then I discovered that in these times I can actually use the Iphone itself to play songs directly through the stereo, all the controls on the phone worked it played nicely through the stereo.

This makes me happy. I've just ordered one of the adapters, but was planning on modifying it myself so that it was only utilizing the pin-outs for audio in the dock connector. I'm not so fond of having an adapter that just lets me play my playlists (might as well burn those playlists as a MP3 disk... I am however a fan of having complete control of my iPhone's Music app and controlling my music directly from there.
If you discover WHY your adapter is doing this, please let me know so I can replicate in a permanent fashion! :D

It seems to be doing it all the time now, as that's how it functioned this morning. I'm not too bothered, if it stays like this I too will be happy, but a bit of consistancy would be nice!

Ok, not sure why it's not charging and just showing the power cord symbol but it seems that if I insert the Iphone into the holder and connect it up it will let me control the device and play whatever I want. If I insert it after I've turned on the car it goes into "connected" mode and only plays the playlists like normal.

Funny thing is, I watched it go into "connected" mode initially when I inserted it prior to switching on and then it backed out of it to let me play from the unit.

Even with the car off it seems to get some sort of power and lights up, is this how everyone else's behaves with an Iphone?

Ie, if you have the car off and plug it in is there a power connection? Does it behave differently depending on when you plug it in?

This makes me happy. I've just ordered one of the adapters, but was planning on modifying it myself so that it was only utilizing the pin-outs for audio in the dock connector. I'm not so fond of having an adapter that just lets me play my playlists (might as well burn those playlists as a MP3 disk... I am however a fan of having complete control of my iPhone's Music app and controlling my music directly from there.
If you discover WHY your adapter is doing this, please let me know so I can replicate in a permanent fashion! :D

Do you have any instructions for doing this pin out mod? I'm getting a couple of 30pin extensions so might give it a go on one of those rather than the special cable.

I haven't actually done it yet, have just been researching it and am waiting for my adapter to arrive. Basically the 30-pin dock connector has 30 pins (believe it or not) that all have a different function. Two of those functions are line-out L and line-out R.
Those two pins are used in the adapter for the 380. What is also used are some of the 'data' pins. When a device is plugged into a dock that has the data pins activated (ie - connected with the 380 stereo) they then hand over control of the device to the stereo.
What I will be doing is testing to see if I can only connect the line-in L+R wires to the 380 and leave the data ones. That way the device will line out the audio, but won't give control of itself to the stereo. Once i perfect this, I will then consider just adapting a stereo cable (3mm jacks on either end) to plug into the 380s stereo at the back (at the same place the adapter plugs in).
My end game plan is this:
Have a 3mm socket in the glove box where the cutout for the second 12v is (only the GTs have them, my VRX has a rubber filler). This socket will have cables that run underneath the shifter, to the back of the stereo and plug in where the adapter plugs in. I can then use any stereo cable with any MP3 device (including my iPhone) and have full control of what I listen to - not just playlists.

Whether or not this works in reality remains to be seen :p

I haven't actually done it yet, have just been researching it and am waiting for my adapter to arrive. Basically the 30-pin dock connector has 30 pins (believe it or not) that all have a different function. Two of those functions are line-out L and line-out R.
Those two pins are used in the adapter for the 380. What is also used are some of the 'data' pins. When a device is plugged into a dock that has the data pins activated (ie - connected with the 380 stereo) they then hand over control of the device to the stereo.
What I will be doing is testing to see if I can only connect the line-in L+R wires to the 380 and leave the data ones. That way the device will line out the audio, but won't give control of itself to the stereo. Once i perfect this, I will then consider just adapting a stereo cable (3mm jacks on either end) to plug into the 380s stereo at the back (at the same place the adapter plugs in).
My end game plan is this:
Have a 3mm socket in the glove box where the cutout for the second 12v is (only the GTs have them, my VRX has a rubber filler). This socket will have cables that run underneath the shifter, to the back of the stereo and plug in where the adapter plugs in. I can then use any stereo cable with any MP3 device (including my iPhone) and have full control of what I listen to - not just playlists.

Whether or not this works in reality remains to be seen :p
Nope, all series three have them. optional on all series one, (though ive never seen a series1 where the scond ciggie was fitted.) not sure about the twos.

Learn something new every day :D
Well all that matters is I don't have one so I can utilize that hole for an AUX :)

Ive been trying to track down this connector for the stock 6cd stacker but the seller isn't selling it anymore. Does anyone have a link where I can find a working cable either iPod or aux cable would do.

If you search "Mitsubishi Galant iPod adapter" in eBay you should find one.
380 stereo doesn't have an aux input my default, im hoping to create my own in the next few days.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Factory-Radio-IPhone-IPod-Aux-Input-Adapter-Cable-Plug-/330582868632?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AMitsubishi|Model%3AGalant&vxp=mtr&hash=item4cf8464298

How about this? i doubt it would work but you guys know more then i do

That one doesn't work. You need the special cable with the 13 DIN plug.

Why won't it work?
I bought that one as part of my "I'm determined to get AUX for the 380" campaign and it arrived the other day.

I would be interested in trying to get some auxiliary input going. does the head unit support input from just an audio source and if so I can see this working by selecting the radio mode and either insuring that there is no other signal going to the head unit or by removing one of the other input sources.

They're all questions I'm looking to find the answers to in the next couple of weeks. Just have to find the time to actually pull the stereo out and have a play with the different inputs.

I see, I thought you were going to muck around with the 13Din Ipod cable to separate the control and sound, which is the cable I have and which behaves differently depending on when the Iphone is plugged in.

I have ordered a new 12v-5v step down converter to see if that fixes my non charging issue. It was charging the Iphone the very first weekend I got it but somewhere in between it stopped and only shows the "charged" symbol.

Here's a link to the pinouts of the Apple cable for you.

http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml

It may help.

I have the new 12v-5v converter, just need time to pull it all apart and see what's going on now.

How is everyone else's Ipod cable going? Mine is not so good. If I use the cable direct I can play through the stereo but no charging occurs and I get the error message. This is normal. However I used to be able to charge and play using a 12v-5v converter. Then it would only play with the converter. Then I bought an extension cable to neaten up the interior by putting the converter behind the dash and it used to play through that but not charge.

Now it won't play through the extension cable and I tested with two of them, same for the converters with the extension cable and I bought a second converter.

Can everyone else with this cable charge an Iphone 4 or 4s? I'm possibly going to give up and either just use it to play through the stereo but charging would be super handy for long trips, without removing it and charging direct to power using my other plug. Or I might just get a new stereo and replace the factory 6 stacker.

It also won't charge my Ipod Classic, which I think is a 12v device, so something is going on with my system.

Although I don't have mine anymore, mine used to work fine with my iPhone 4 & also charge with the converter & extension cable in line.

Mine charges both ipod nano and Iphone 4s through the converter and plays music as intended.

When you say 'play through the stereo' is the adapter still giving your headunit control of your playlists and disallowing selection of music straight from your iPod?

If I only use the original cable it will work as intended but not charge of course.

I didn't double check that functionality but I think it would work either way still, depending on how I plugged it in.

Maybe my cable has gone faulty? I checked it was plugged in securely, can't find a reason for the strange behavior.

They're all questions I'm looking to find the answers to in the next couple of weeks. Just have to find the time to actually pull the stereo out and have a play with the different inputs.

Have you had any success with this? I am looking to do something similar, using the 13 DIN plug to create AUX input into the standard 6 CD factory unit.

I recently received my adapter from the USA. It works exactly as it says, but it doesn't support iPhone 4

Really? I have an iPhone 4 and it works fine.

But does it charge the iPhone and not give errors, it took about 3 tries just unplugging it for it to play nice.

I wish there was a way to mod the head unit to output 5v via the cable.

Is the US still the place people are sourcing this MZ607411EX ipod adaptor from? Or are there now suppliers in Australia?

As far as I am aware there are no Aussie suppliers simply because our models didn't have that as an option. So most people with the adaptor are sourcing them from the states.

Hey check out this ebay listing - not for the listing but for what the guy has done to the factory deck. He has added an mp3 headphone socket input.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mitsubishi-Galant-Eclipse-MP3-CD-Radio-Ipod-SAT-AUX-/150630529501?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item23124779dd#ht_3767wt_698

I've sent an email asking about the mod so we will see

Very interesting!!!

I saw that a few months ago. Emailed the guy, but he said I either had to buy the deck, or ship him mine... Despite the fact that I live in Australia.
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Hey check out this ebay listing - not for the listing but for what the guy has done to the factory deck. He has added an mp3 headphone socket input.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mitsubishi-Galant-Eclipse-MP3-CD-Radio-Ipod-SAT-AUX-/150630529501?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item23124779dd#ht_3767wt_698

I've sent an email asking about the mod so we will see

Fantastic info if he has a way to do it via the existing auto connect plug so there is no hard wiring to prevent complete removal of the fascia panel

Also noted his panel doesn't have auto air !

Maybe that is the lever to use to get him to tell us the needed pinouts (or should I say pin_ins ?) given we all have auto air and can't use his panel?


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That would be handy - lets hope he spills the secrets!

That would be handy - lets hope he spills the secrets!

I have emailed him asking how much for a custum self mount cable - he mentions this possibility in his description small print, and also asked him into which receptacle he connects it

Meanwhile I have found an online service manual (*.pdf) ($10) for the radio with pinouts etc

Will try post rear view below

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/radiorears.jpg

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The pinouts for the 13P are interesting. I'm curious as to how many pins the adapter actually uses. Definitely Lch + Rch (der), M-Data and perhaps M-Busy and M-Sck. Probably ground as well if it is charging. Would be good if you could convince the head-unit to go into AUX mode, but not have control taken away from the iPhone itself. So only connect perhaps Lch, Rch and maybe M-Data/M-Busy... I don't see the point in getting an adapter that only let's me control my playlists. I might as well just burn CDs, which is what I've been doing.

Agree - can fit a lot of songs on 6 MP3 cd's :)

Both the service manual and car book talk about holding CD button down 1.5 to 2 secs, but as far as I can gather this just allows toggling between CD audio and mp3 songs when both are present on same CD

Given it is 6 stacker I wonder why they even bothered with the 13P for an external stacker

Has anyone here cpnnected an additioanal stacker? if so what brand, pinouts etc?

I think I found it ..

http://www.oemautosound.com/pc-590-242-auxiliary-input-for-mitsubishi-vehicles-2003-2007.aspx

The aux option would be good to just plug in your ipod for a quick tune.

better info here
http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piemitrca.html

I think I found it ..

http://www.oemautosound.com/pc-590-242-auxiliary-input-for-mitsubishi-vehicles-2003-2007.aspx

The aux option would be good to just plug in your ipod for a quick tune.

better info here
http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piemitrca.html

So far no-one (I think) has reported being able to get their Aus radio into the AUX mode. Pinout diagram (post 90 this thread) shows pin 12 spare or ground (Not sure from --- symbol) and 13 and 14 as the -ve for Rear L and Rear R speakers

Both of these plugs are different to ours, I have both of the cables here that are available as a 3 pin connection and neither has a listing for the same plug

I haven't actually done it yet, have just been researching it and am waiting for my adapter to arrive. Basically the 30-pin dock connector has 30 pins (believe it or not) that all have a different function. Two of those functions are line-out L and line-out R.
Those two pins are used in the adapter for the 380. What is also used are some of the 'data' pins. When a device is plugged into a dock that has the data pins activated (ie - connected with the 380 stereo) they then hand over control of the device to the stereo.
What I will be doing is testing to see if I can only connect the line-in L+R wires to the 380 and leave the data ones. That way the device will line out the audio, but won't give control of itself to the stereo. Once i perfect this, I will then consider just adapting a stereo cable (3mm jacks on either end) to plug into the 380s stereo at the back (at the same place the adapter plugs in).
My end game plan is this:
Have a 3mm socket in the glove box where the cutout for the second 12v is (only the GTs have them, my VRX has a rubber filler). This socket will have cables that run underneath the shifter, to the back of the stereo and plug in where the adapter plugs in. I can then use any stereo cable with any MP3 device (including my iPhone) and have full control of what I listen to - not just playlists.

Whether or not this works in reality remains to be seen :p

At the risk of digging up something old - any luck? im about to order one from the US too. Sic, of buring CD's

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2006-2009-MITSUBISHI-GALANT-ECLIPSE-MP3-IPOD-ADAPTER-INTERFACE-CABLE-MZ360135EX-/390374357821?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item5ae41ffb3d

may have been shown before. Looks a little more then the normal cable. Could this be the one?

No thats not it, bought one myself 2 months ago from US Ebay, will dig up the link for you

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2004-2012-GENUINE-MITSUBISHI-GALANT-MP3-IPOD-ADAPTER-INTERFACE-KIT-MZ607411EX-/370610063858?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item564a14c9f2#ht_1269wt_689

Thats the one you need, they definetley fit, i've owned 2 380's and have fitted it to both of them, only thing you will need is an adaptor so your apple device will charge as well

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2004-2012-GENUINE-MITSUBISHI-GALANT-MP3-IPOD-ADAPTER-INTERFACE-KIT-MZ607411EX-/370610063858?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item564a14c9f2#ht_1269wt_689

Thats the one you need, they definetley fit, i've owned 2 380's and have fitted it to both of them, only thing you will need is an adaptor so your apple device will charge as well

Thanks!

Has anyone with the ipod adapter ever thought of hacking it to create an auxillary line in that would trick the unit into thinking that it was connected to an ipod and allow the headunit to work like normal

Has anyone with the ipod adapter ever thought of hacking it to create an auxillary line in that would trick the unit into thinking that it was connected to an ipod and allow the headunit to work like normal

Do you mean just wiring an iPod to input into the headunit, but controlling it with the actual iPod? If so, I looked into this.

Essentially there must be this capability - I will explain.

The stock bluetooth system does not output through the headunit - it simply mutes, and then the bluetooth module feeds the front left speaker.

However, a patch cable was designed to allow headunit adjustment, so that when on a call, the head unit volume could be changed and affect the bluetooth volume. So essentially, the new patch cable is feeding the bluetooth audio into the headunit and amplifying it (rather than muting the headunit and connecting direct to the front left speaker).

What this all means, is that even the base line head unit, when forced into phone mode with the 12v yellow wire, you can input a signal to the headunit, amplify it, and send to the speakers.

The only problem is I have no idea whether it is a stereo input - and haven't got a Mitsubishi patch cable to write up a wiring diagram. It is quite likely that the headunit would only have a mono input for phone, which would mean an iPod would sound terrible.

If it were a stereo input, then a simple cable like this would work a treat.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/P-I-E-MIT-POD-2003-2007-Mitsubishi-6-ft-Factory-Radio-iPod-Cable-Harness-/360479460137?pt=US_Wire_Harnesses&hash=item53ee400b29

It would just display "Phone" when an iPod was connected, and obviously you couldn't control the iPod with the headunit.

If you wanted to achieve the same without sacrificing your bluetooth phone connection, I could set up a simple relay to switch the input from iPod to phone when you receive/make calls.

the link you put up of the iPod patch cable. What use is it, and can it be connected to the connector on the back of the headunit? The method you have explained of using the bluetooth handsfree as a way of getting a signal into the headunit is good, but like you said it all depends on whether it is a stereo output.

What I was thinking was using, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2004-2012-GENUINE-MITSUBISHI-GALANT-MP3-IPOD-ADAPTER-INTERFACE-KIT-MZ607411EX-/370610063858?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item564a14c9f2 , and hacking into the audio inputs somehow. That way why you connect it to the ipod lead the headunit doesn't take control of the ipod and you still control the music from the ipod itself and not the factory headunit controlling the ipod

What use is it

Well if you are wanting iPod played through your headunit, but not headunit controlled (control with the iPod itself), it is of quite a lot of use!


Can it be connected to the connector on the back of the headunit?

There are three plugs on your headunit: Steering wheel control & MFD (10 pin), the main one (speakers/power/phone mute, 14 pin) and the aux input one 13 pin (round plug). The one you are thinking of using goes in the round aux input, the one I am thinking of would need to be connected into the main (14 pin) or 10 pin plug.


it all depends on whether it is a stereo output.

Actually depends on whether it is a stereo INPUT on the headunit. Given that it is designed for a phone, I'm guessing not - having said that, have been unable (after a huge hunt online) to find wiring diagram for the headunits so this is where I got stuck. Have nutted out the majority of the wiring here in this thread

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87721&highlight=


What I was thinking was using, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2004-2012...item564a14c9f2 , and hacking into the audio inputs somehow. That way why you connect it to the ipod lead the headunit doesn't take control of the ipod and you still control the music from the ipod itself and not the factory headunit controlling the ipod

I remember reading that the ipod system is a digital input, and the 13 pin plug only works with a digital input. If you go cutting wires in the loom to disable the headunit control, you are most likely to kill the whole input.

I might resume my search for pin info and see if I can find if it's a stereo input.

Actually depends on whether it is a stereo INPUT on the headunit. Given that it is designed for a phone, I'm guessing not - having said that, have been unable (after a huge hunt online) to find wiring diagram for the headunits so this is where I got stuck.

See my post at #90 in this thread for the pin out diagrams of the head unit

Well, it seems you did better than me, telpat 16! Well done :)

It looks like the phone definitely has a mono input (ie phone mute, phone ground, phone signal) on the diagram (unless of course pin 2 on the 10 pin is also a phone signal).


Has anyone with the ipod adapter ever thought of hacking it to create an auxillary line in that would trick the unit into thinking that it was connected to an ipod and allow the headunit to work like normal

Looks entirely possible. The 13 pin cable could be spliced into, certainly seems to be what the ebay seller is doing to create the aux input. Only problem would be the 13 pin cable would have very, very thin wires based on the size of the cable. Would be hard work splicing into reliably.

Looks entirely possible. The 13 pin cable could be spliced into, certainly seems to be what the ebay seller is doing to create the aux input. Only problem would be the 13 pin cable would have very, very thin wires based on the size of the cable. Would be hard work splicing into reliably.

Thanks

I don't know that the head unit can be made to recognise the presence of a 13 pin connected device - as no-one (I think) has been able to get the Aussie unit to go into Aux mode

I have the manual for the MN141332 radio. I can get L+R in to work - effectively AUX in - so I can come out of my iPod headphone plug and into the 13-pin DIN port. Trouble is when I do that I have no control at the radio head over volume, balance, fade, bass, treble etc. Volume control from the iPod works. It's as though the L+R input through the 13-pin DIN port uses the amp and speakers only but bypasses all controls.

I suspect I just have to tell the radio there is a device plugged in. All I'm connecting at the moment is GND, L + R in, and I think I need to put a voltage on the ACC pin, but I'm not an electronics buff (just a hacker). I can't do much more for the moment - I blew a fuse (silly mistake) and I don't have the security code for the radio (I bought the car 2nd-hand and didn't think at the time about the radio code).

I have to say that even if I can't get the radio head controls working, that is still preferable (to me anyway) to the way the Mitsubishi iPod adapter works - I bought one and I'm not happy with the way it takes complete control from the iPod and I can't easily navigate through my music library on the iPod.

If anyone wants the radio manual - complete with schematics and wiring diagrams - let me know. If I knew how to post a pdf here I'd post it.

I have the manual for the MN141332 radio. I can get L+R in to work - effectively AUX in - so I can come out of my iPod headphone plug and into the 13-pin DIN port. Trouble is when I do that I have no control at the radio head over volume, balance, fade, bass, treble etc. Volume control from the iPod works. It's as though the L+R input through the 13-pin DIN port uses the amp and speakers only but bypasses all controls.

I suspect I just have to tell the radio there is a device plugged in. All I'm connecting at the moment is GND, L + R in, and I think I need to put a voltage on the ACC pin, but I'm not an electronics buff (just a hacker). I can't do much more for the moment - I blew a fuse (silly mistake) and I don't have the security code for the radio (I bought the car 2nd-hand and didn't think at the time about the radio code).

I have to say that even if I can't get the radio head controls working, that is still preferable (to me anyway) to the way the Mitsubishi iPod adapter works - I bought one and I'm not happy with the way it takes complete control from the iPod and I can't easily navigate through my music library on the iPod.

If anyone wants the radio manual - complete with schematics and wiring diagrams - let me know. If I knew how to post a pdf here I'd post it.

Do you mind sending me the PDF

Do you mind sending me the PDF

Happy to. How do I get your email address? Is there no way I can just post it here for everyone?

Nevermind. I posted the radio manual and the datasheet for the codec chip at:

http://www.evol-art.com/drop/

If you go to that URL you should see two PDF files. The radio manual is fairly hefty - about 13MB (I think it was created from a scanner). The codec datasheet is relatively small.

Have fun. I connected pins 1, 2 & 4 on the 13-pin DIN - 1 = signal ground, 2 = L from iPod headphone jack, 4 = R from iPod headphone jack. That got me sound through the car sound system, but no control at the radiohead. I could control volume from the iPod, and I have complete navigation control over my music at the iPod.

If you figure out how to get control of volume, balance etc. at the radiohead I'd appreciate it if you could post your results so that I can reproduce it.

Sounds like just about everyone's lost interest in this thread... Oh well - I'll just keep playing.

I have the manual for the MN141332 radio. I can get L+R in to work - effectively AUX in - so I can come out of my iPod headphone plug and into the 13-pin DIN port. Trouble is when I do that I have no control at the radio head over volume, balance, fade, bass, treble etc. Volume control from the iPod works. It's as though the L+R input through the 13-pin DIN port uses the amp and speakers only but bypasses all controls.

I suspect I just have to tell the radio there is a device plugged in. All I'm connecting at the moment is GND, L + R in, and I think I need to put a voltage on the ACC pin, but I'm not an electronics buff (just a hacker). I can't do much more for the moment - I blew a fuse (silly mistake) and I don't have the security code for the radio (I bought the car 2nd-hand and didn't think at the time about the radio code).

I have to say that even if I can't get the radio head controls working, that is still preferable (to me anyway) to the way the Mitsubishi iPod adapter works - I bought one and I'm not happy with the way it takes complete control from the iPod and I can't easily navigate through my music library on the iPod.

If anyone wants the radio manual - complete with schematics and wiring diagrams - let me know. If I knew how to post a pdf here I'd post it.

From what you are posting I gather yo have the single disk unit, not the 6 stacker?

The unit you got from Mits, what does this look like, I have several here but have never had one working

From what you are posting I gather yo have the single disk unit, not the 6 stacker?

No, the stacker. The control panel has "6 Disc Changer" printed on it, and I've successfully loaded, played, and ejected 6 discs.



The unit you got from Mits, what does this look like, I have several here but have never had one working

It's a metal box 85mm x 65mm x 25mm, has a coax cable coming out the back with the 13pin DIN on the end, and a long cable with an iPod plug on the end. Also has a short cable for power connection if required. Model # is V-9001P-U.

The Mitsubishi unit works as advertised - I just don't like the way it works because it pretends the iPod is a CD stacker and each playlist on the iPod is a disc. That'd be ok if I could see at least the playlist name, but only the disc (playlist) number and track number are displayed (and the iPod display is disabled)- not really all that helpful.

One thing I forgot to mention - I couldn't get the Mitsubishi unit working with my iPod Classic 120GB, but it does work with my iPod Touch 4th Gen. Maybe I could get the Classic working if I fiddle with the dip switches on the unit, but I haven't bothered yet.

I've been a little distracted the past few days, but as I posted earlier, I have been able to get the headphone out of the iPod to play through the car radio by using the 13-pin DIN - now I just need to play around so I have volume/balance etc. control at the car radio. I'll spend some time next week playing to see what I can come up with.

My cable worked fine with my Classic 160gb Ipod, I used to use it and set up the playlists. Not sure what you'd need to change on the dip switches. My cable is spare now, I changed my head unit.

Have fun. I connected pins 1, 2 & 4 on the 13-pin DIN - 1 = signal ground, 2 = L from iPod headphone jack, 4 = R from iPod headphone jack. That got me sound through the car sound system, but no control at the radiohead. I could control volume from the iPod, and I have complete navigation control over my music at the iPod.

If you figure out how to get control of volume, balance etc. at the radiohead I'd appreciate it if you could post your results so that I can reproduce it.

I have found (via a post from "Stayer" our o/s member, on another forum) how to get radio into AUX mode

Power off, hold button 1 or 6, power on and AUX mode displayed and volume control appears to work

I made up a headphone out cable with a 13 pin connector to pins 1,2 4 but could not get any sound from my iPhone 4

http://imageshack.com/a/img689/3278/10v4.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img689/3278/10v4.jpg

Anybody worked out what else is needed to get the 6 Stacker to accept audio from the 13 pin plug?