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MAD TS
29-12-2006, 10:46 PM
hey all im looking at getting 1 or 2 capacitors i wanna know wat brands are good and prices would be awsome i looked at a few sites but non had prices so if any one could help would be great

bob_saget
29-12-2006, 11:21 PM
you do know theyre a complete waste of money yeh?? if your headlights and **** are dimming give your battery terminals a clean and upgrade your chassis to bettery earth, most sales people will tell you you need 1farrad for every 1000rms blah blah blah...... load of crap, spend the money on sound deadening, youl hear the difference....

science
30-12-2006, 10:36 AM
i bought a capacitor and found extra punch at the highest volumes, and more clarity from my bass.

im using an airpro 1 farad capacitor.

bob_saget
30-12-2006, 11:25 AM
placebo effect :P

MAD TS
30-12-2006, 12:13 PM
ok thanx bob just checking this crap out as i heard they are good but i guess not unless you have like a 100000wat setup

[TUFFTR]
30-12-2006, 03:57 PM
As science said he reckoned he noticed ALOT of difference.
Im pretty sure they store power and when there is a voltage drop (Bass note) the cap kicks in supplying the extra volatge needed.
I'd really be keen to install one to test it out.
But what you should do is run as many earths back to the battery as possible, either 2ga or 4ga and make sure all grounds are nice and clean.

Should help Mate :)

s_tim_ulate
30-12-2006, 04:31 PM
Waste of money, they do not produce more SPL, they have no effect on SQ. You are better off upgrading your battery/wiring/grounds.

All the DB drag and SQ competitors I know dont use them. We're talking 10000 w RMS cars here.

Audio jewellery.

All decent amps nowadays have this technology built into their power supply, caps will cause you more harm than good as wiring them up is dangerous.

Peace

Tim

MAD TS
30-12-2006, 04:35 PM
hey thanx for the info tuff im also using 6 gauge for the power and earth

s_tim_ulate
30-12-2006, 04:37 PM
What system? how much power draw (RMS?)
Do you have any problems now? headlight dimming? battery running flat? etc etc?

MAD TS
30-12-2006, 04:53 PM
at the moment a sony head unit sony fronts sony rears and 2 sony amps im not sure on the rms it puts out as im not a huge audio freak and nothing is wrond with batt or lights

s_tim_ulate
30-12-2006, 05:23 PM
What do you expect the cap to achieve? What more do you want out of your system? Louder? More clarity? Better frequency response? Higher/lower?

If the sound is not what you want, then you'd be better off upgrading your speakers/door prep/headunit.

Put your money where you'll hear it.

MAD TS
30-12-2006, 05:34 PM
the whole car as been sound deadened the speaks are only a month old i want better responce and better bass im running 2 poineer 15'' subs

Mr_Roberto
30-12-2006, 05:51 PM
add a second battery and put it in your boot to advoid voltage drop
upgrade your power wire 4ga minimum from the battery to the distrobution block then 8ga to the amps using 4ga for grounds
other option is to buy decent gear

MAD TS
30-12-2006, 05:52 PM
im already using 6 gauge and wat is better the sony mate

Mr_Roberto
30-12-2006, 06:00 PM
there alot of better stuff then sony out there mate
but it all depends on your budget too
sonys good for people who dont want to spend big on sound systems
but hey as long as they get the job done there ok
now the 6ga should be fine to run your amps but normally 4ga minimum is used when running 2 amps minimum

MAD TS
30-12-2006, 06:08 PM
yeah 6 guage for both amps

[TUFFTR]
30-12-2006, 06:50 PM
Didnt even know there was 6ga....

Got any actuall model numbers or anything MAD TS?

andrewd
30-12-2006, 10:51 PM
off topic here but i was down the local auto bogan today and they had a 40 farrad cap yes 40!! cost like $1200 lol..

soon as i get my car on the road im getting a killer battery and decent wiring, is 0g too hardcore for 1200wrms total?? soon to be 2000wrms in the near future as i slowly upgrade bits and pieces

my altenator is in good shape, and i have an ok battery but when the system is on and at night the lights dim big time (starts at about 1/4 vol), even when putting it into N and giving the engine a good rev... and the idiots who instaled it only used dual 8g wiring :(

i got a 4ch running splits front and 6x9s rear and mono running 4 12's... will a good (optima/odyssey) battery and decent wiring fix the dimming and give me more power at the speakers??

s_tim_ulate
30-12-2006, 11:02 PM
bigger is always better for wiring.

I'm running over 2kw rms now and use 0 ga to the boot. and 2 ga to the amps.

Upgrading wiring & grounds (short, fat and to a good point in the boot) and upgrading the ground at the engine bay should solve your problems.

Yellowtop will always help out but i used to get no dimming with my stock battery.

s_tim_ulate
30-12-2006, 11:06 PM
the whole car as been sound deadened the speaks are only a month old i want better responce and better bass im running 2 poineer 15'' subs
Better bass = upgrade your sub - Image Dynamics, Treo, Oz Audio, Digital Designs, Phoenix Gold, Diamond Audio, perhaps to 1x12" that can handle a lot of power. over 2 cheaper 15's.

Or design/build a better box. Depending on the specs of your sub, - Sealed boxes will play lower but are less efficient so wont play louder. Ported boxes are louder but dont play well under the tuning frequency, so dont get as low as sealed boxes can.

better response = Upgrade front splits - Morel, Dynaudio, Vifa, Oz Audio, etc etc.

Possibly upgrade headunit to Eclipse, Alpine etc.

Peace

Tim

bob_saget
30-12-2006, 11:39 PM
im pushing 2k rms aswell, i got 0awg to my mono and 4awg to my 2 channel... when i think of wiring, you can never have overkill.... unless you go buying 600 dollar rca's and **** like that, that imo is overkill... but yeh no such thing as overkill with power wiring... just head room :D

M4DDOG
31-12-2006, 04:36 AM
I have an 400wrms amp running my speakers using 8guage, and a 600wrms amp running my subs using 4guage, system goes alright with no dimming. Should i be looking into the single power wire route? Or does it not really matter?

As for capacitors, they only mask the real problem.

MYV64U
31-12-2006, 05:10 AM
Never had the urge to run capacitors myself (System now is no where like previous systems have been) but after speaking to someone here in Newcastle who has some serious knowledge and oversea's wins in sound off comps to his name I have found capacitors DO have a use.

With all the other current being drawn from your electrical system while driving the capacitor makes sure the amp isn't losing out into the equation. Capacitor supplies a smooth CONSTANT current to the amp during occasions where it wants more power but the car may not be able to supply it.

As this thread shows there are people for and against them. Come the end of the day it's your money mate and there is an application for them. Use your own choice. Put some research into the matter through with/without comparisons.

Or log into Newcastlemagna.org and speak to SJH350.

PUFF_DOGG
31-12-2006, 10:11 AM
off topic here but i was down the local auto bogan today and they had a 40 farrad cap yes 40!! cost like $1200 lol..

think your refering to this http://www.soundstream.com/capacitors-sc40ca.htm , i coulda had one of these for just shy of 700, but passed up on it due to lack of cash

stereo_god
31-12-2006, 03:10 PM
i get the dimming from the headlights but my batts shagged. i run 0 guage to dist block in boot and two 4 guage about a foot long to 2 amps. one 4x60wrms and 1x300wrms. i also have an 0 guage extra ground.

[TUFFTR]
31-12-2006, 03:14 PM
i get the dimming from the headlights but my batts shagged. i run 0 guage to dist block in boot and two 4 guage about a foot long to 2 amps. one 4x60wrms and 1x300wrms. i also have an 0 guage extra ground.

Id just keep adding more grounds.
Look on car audio australia on how to make a bushbar.
This will allow you to hook up more earths