wandered down to the workshop today to see how my blower install was going and to pay the remainder of the bill

long story short, if i am to run my unichip i am totally on my own in regards to anything taking a dump, and i mean anything at all. The guys said that sprintex are very anti modifying and the kit was designed as an OEM product that MMAL approved of blah blah blah we know the story. What they did suggest was waiting 3-6 months make sure everything runs in ok then go a haltech interceptor or their new miniceptor to get more power and their water/meth injection will plug straight into that ecu. it has more programable ports than the unichip.

so yeah, i wanted balls out performance from day one, but looks like i'll have to wait a few months and save a couple more grand :rant: :rant: :rant:

good times, still cant wait to drive it though :D

Did they hold a gun to your head and tell you that you had to wait 3-6 months??

If not - I don't see what the problem is. Get the tune you want and be done with it. If you don't trust that particular workshop to be able to put a safe tune into it (remembering - you are stuck with pretty modest boost), then tow it to somewhere you trust.

You had to have known all along that Sprintex would immediatly void any warranty on the kit as soon as you went outside their spec. But at the end of the day - it's your car, and I can understand you being cautious.

What they did suggest was waiting 3-6 months make sure everything runs in ok then go a haltech interceptor or their new miniceptor to get more power and their water/meth injection will plug straight into that ecu. it has more programable ports than the unichip.

When you say "their new miniceptor and water meth injection" do you mean Sprintex or Tweakit?

How come no one told you this before?


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that sucks balls dude....!!!

but in a way it'll be a good thing cos you can get a power figure pre and post custom tune!!

i'm getting the microtech fitted soon... and they are going to do a b4 and after run... so then we can see the benifits of the custom tune...

there is a growing list of ppl unhappy with the sprintex kit and its so called gains...
esp when they clam 225kw and 422nm... im lucky if im geting 160kw and 320nm!! no change really...

When you say "their new miniceptor and water meth injection" do you mean Sprintex or Tweakit?

How come no one told you this before?


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Tweakit andrew.
the new miniceptor is a bit cheaper than the interceptor as its not waterproof and has a slightly smaller motherboard so cheaper to manufactuor. it still retains all the same features as the interceptor. their water kit looks pretty bloody good i saw it in action today in a V8 commo with a yella terra blower on it. 40% gains they said

Did they hold a gun to your head and tell you that you had to wait 3-6 months??
just being cautious. if its gonna f*ck out, it'll f*ck out early on (i hope) so i can get some more frieght together and get some serious stick out of it. they're already checked the map on the car today and they said its pretty good :doubt: fingers crossed for wednesday


there is a growing list of ppl unhappy with the sprintex kit and its so called gains...
esp when they clam 225kw and 422nm... im lucky if im geting 160kw and 320nm!! no change really...
bit of a joke i know, but i'll get 200kw+ at the wheels soon enough

Hmmm... Doesn't really seem like a good mod does it. $8k for little to no gains then another $2k or so for some ok gains but limited at best with no cooling and no warranty anyway which is the main appeal of the sprintex kit. I'd just go a single turbo install with intercooler aswell. Would work out about the same price.

there is a growing list of ppl unhappy with the sprintex kit and its so called gains...
esp when they clam 225kw and 422nm... im lucky if im geting 160kw and 320nm!! no change really...

Those claims are at the flywheel - so pretty hard to disprove. Not many people are going to incur the extra cost of having their engine pulled out so it can be dyno'd just so they can measure up against the manufacturers claims.

And even if you did and your car only pulled 190kW at the flywheel - they'd just use the "every engine is different......blah blah blah.........condition.... blah blah blah" defence.

Anyway - good luck with getting to 200+kW at the treads Jase!! Will be one hell of a beast.

cheers BB

selling off my old intake manifold, front bar, struct brace, unichip etc will go to funding the next ecu plus meth spray. she'll be right :thumbsup: just rather be cautious for at least a couple of months

plenty of grunt for me (for now).

Paid just 24 grand cash for low mileage Verada GTvi AWD, 7 grand for sprintex and very satisfied with this bargain performance sedan.

cheers BB

selling off my old intake manifold, front bar, struct brace, unichip etc will go to funding the next ecu plus meth spray. she'll be right :thumbsup: just rather be cautious for at least a couple of months

Cool. Are you going to get a power run done before you pick up the car??? I'd be interested to see what the power at the wheels is for one of these things thru a manual gearbox? (did reallyart ever post a dyno result for his car???)

If you're willing to throw your strutbrace in the post - I'll take it off your hands. Been meaning to get one for ages.

Cool. Are you going to get a power run done before you pick up the car??? I'd be interested to see what the power at the wheels is for one of these things thru a manual gearbox? (did reallyart ever post a dyno result for his car???)

If you're willing to throw your strutbrace in the post - I'll take it off your hands. Been meaning to get one for ages.
getting a power run on the 27th of jan (toymods car club dyno day) so will post up a power run then

yeah you can have the strut brace. PM me your details and what you think its worth. dont rip me off lol

that sucks balls dude....!!!

but in a way it'll be a good thing cos you can get a power figure pre and post custom tune!!

i'm getting the microtech fitted soon... and they are going to do a b4 and after run... so then we can see the benifits of the custom tune...

there is a growing list of ppl unhappy with the sprintex kit and its so called gains...
esp when they clam 225kw and 422nm... im lucky if im geting 160kw and 320nm!! no change really...

In my short time on this forum I have noticed many anti sprintex posts and I have an idea which performance shop these sycophants are allied with. I am sure there is a section of the trade practices Act that could be invoked here.

From personal experience, on a low mileage engine, the sprintex kit certainly feels as though it gives at least the gains it purports to deliver.

At peak output, it feels stronger in performance than a standard LS1 chevrolet powered commodore.

In my short time on this forum I have noticed many anti sprintex posts and I have an idea which performance shop these sycophants are allied with. I am sure there is a section of the trade practices Act that could be invoked here.



I think you might be reading into it abit too much mate. I don't think there is a secret society of members who have a vested interest in a particular performance workshop. Infact I think you'll find that any workshop that specialises in performance products for Magnas have copped their fair share of flack over the years.

Thats why i didnt go with a Sprintex..:)

In my short time on this forum I have noticed many anti sprintex posts and I have an idea which performance shop these sycophants are allied with. I am sure there is a section of the trade practices Act that could be invoked here.

From personal experience, on a low mileage engine, the sprintex kit certainly feels as though it gives at least the gains it purports to deliver.

At peak output, it feels stronger in performance than a standard LS1 chevrolet powered commodore.


well i had tested my car when it was stock, and it was much healthier than your regular awd magna with the times i got at the track....

my issues are all due to the tune that i recieved, wich i dount doubt had sprinted personally installed the kit and tuned it i would be much happier... but in reality i can be stuffed travelling halfway around the plannet to keep going back to get more approximate tunes... where i will now be able to get it tuned at any performance place now.... not interested in the warranty....


just interested in the poor finnish of the kit, mine and another has a terrible throttle cable set up with mass amounts of slack... which i have had to modify it to be normal now.... and the other guys throttle cable was melting and not supplied with certain parts...

maybe not, but I don't see too many supercharged people sh##t canning the turbo people.

The sprintex demo magna has been thrashed by journalists and is a daily driver for their manager. It has more than 60,000 km since installation and they say it has not missed a beat.

Sprintex kits are routinely installed on Toyota 1HZ diesels - have driven these and pretty good- and when the engine expires (300,000 plus kms), they can unbolt the kit and whack it on the new engine, no degradation in the supercharger at all.

Don't know the total life expectancy of the hardware is but suspect at least two engines (600 to 800,000 km).

The 1HZ is a pretty unsophisticated donk though, compared to the electronic multivalve jobbies we all take for granted.

Thats why i didnt go with a Sprintex..:)
well if had the choice of loosing my car for 3 months, getting it back sounding like an astron 2 with no oil and un reliable, or 2 days in a workshop to get the same power . . . .well we all know the answer to that

well if had the choice of loosing my car for 3 months, getting it back sounding like an astron 2 with no oil and un reliable, or 2 days in a workshop to get the same power . . . .well we all know the answer to that

Not talking about NA to forced you fool.. i said sprintex..:P

Tzaboy, I think thats the way , go safe with warranty the first couple months
and if something comes up it gets looked after. (eg. like my little oil leak)

Beyond that you'll surely be able to get more kw's out of it with a seperate tune :)

I think you might be reading into it abit too much mate. I don't think there is a secret society of members who have a vested interest in a particular performance workshop. Infact I think you'll find that any workshop that specialises in performance products for Magnas have copped their fair share of flack over the years.

He already knows too much.. you know what must be done.. :shifty:

there is a growing list of ppl unhappy with the sprintex kit and its so called gains...
esp when they clam 225kw and 422nm... im lucky if im geting 160kw and 320nm!! no change really...
You wont get anything near what the other FWD people are getting in terms of KW ATW..

Youre running a 4wd system that has around 35 - 40% loss through to the axles, whereas the FWD ladies get maybe 20 - 25% loss.. You are also getting a generic tune from Sprintex.. Generic tunes are never a good thing. Like the Ford Edit.. Generic tunes net your 20 - 30rwkw gain whereas a custom tune nets you about 60rwkw's gain.



Everyone has a choice. Theres been plenty of for's and against for the Sprintex supercharger, so you people should have known by now what you were getting yourselves into..


TZABOY: Listen to your installer.. Wait it out and make sure the kit is ok and free of defects.. Then modify it.

If i had got my Edit in the first 6 months of my car, im pretty sure Ford would not have honoured the warranty on a replacement diff. Patience is key :)

Bain, sorry for my ignorance, but once a stock XR6T engine has run in with no other engine mods, why should there be any major differences in the tunes? Is the Edit a straight out the box conservative tune (obviously more aggressive than stock) which will give the said 30ish kw gain, as opposed to a custom tune where it's right on the limit of safety?

I didn't think the super fine tolerance differences in each engine would result in a 30kw difference, you'd think they sell a tune that is pretty close to the limits anyway?

The 40% gain from supercharging is really noticeable.

Would you really feel another 10 to 12 per cent (25 - 30kw) on top of this?

It would be intersting to hear from anyone who has done a further upgrade "tune" on the sprintex installation in terms of before and after driveability and whether this translates into measurable standing start acceleration gains.

Is the Edit a straight out the box conservative tune (obviously more aggressive than stock) which will give the said 30ish kw gain, as opposed to a custom tune where it's right on the limit of safety?

Spot on. Although its up to the individual and their tuner as to how close to the limits they want to take their engine..



I didn't think the super fine tolerance differences in each engine would result in a 30kw difference, you'd think they sell a tune that is pretty close to the limits anyway?

Spark plugs, Valvesprings, injectors, wastegate actuator are the big factors in how the XR6T engine can be tuned without changing them out...

eg: 2 cars go in for a custom tune, yet one has a firmer spring that allows the tuner to go that bit further when tuning the car - resulting in a better gain.

A general rule of thumb is never to use generic tunes.. (well in the Edit world)

Youre running a 4wd system that has around 35 - 40% loss through to the axles, whereas the FWD ladies get maybe 20 - 25% loss.. You are also getting a generic tune from Sprintex.. Generic tunes are never a good thing. Like the Ford Edit.. Generic tunes net your 20 - 30rwkw gain whereas a custom tune nets you about 60rwkw's gain.


the power figures i was quoting werent atw... my car had say 155kw and 310nm before the s/c not maybe 160kw 315nm at the fly....

mines all due to the tune floor it.... it launches no diff than before if anything its a little softer... hit 3k and it pulls hard but still being held back til 4.5k and dies in the top end over 5.5 is useless now... the a/f ratios are rich and there is no timing... hence why its sluggish.... i can feel the potential there...


thats why im going full custo tune, so when done i'll compare notes with before as its getting tested before and after

my dyno run will be this sunday at SAS, so i will be able to see the before and after affects of a fine tune. will be all too late as there will be no more kits avaliable soon

If i had got my Edit in the first 6 months of my car, im pretty sure Ford would not have honoured the warranty on a replacement diff. Patience is key :)

Unless you have a 1000hp diff snapping motor, ford, and holden for that fact, will always warrant the diff and transmission repairs (in warranty period) 'cos even they know they are junk!

that bit of information I KNOW IS FACT!

Unless you have a 1000hp diff snapping motor, ford, and holden for that fact, will always warrant the diff and transmission repairs (in warranty period) 'cos even they know they are junk!

that bit of information I KNOW IS FACT!

Best go get your facts looked at then.

Theres at least a dozen people on the ford forums that are Black Listed for any engine, drivetrain and suspension parts under warranty because of their Edit.

Believe it or not, but Ford arent going to replace parts that have been stressed beyond Fords set tolerance levels..

.. you know what must be done.. :shifty:

Did somebody call me? :cool:

Keen to see the result Jase.

Did somebody call me? :cool:

Nope no one did..:P

Nope no one did..:P

Ah, bugger. Boring - nothing to do then. I go back to playing Bingo. :doubt: