Howdy all;
I was looking on Ebay earlier and i came across a set of 4 Ford Teritory steel rims and i have 2 questions for everyone
1. If i did purchase these what size tyres am i going to be looking for? (rims themselves are
17x7 or 7.5 cant remember off the top of my head)
2. what else will i have to get with them to make them fit my magna properly? Ive read something about spacers in other threads when i searched earlier
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Uncle Andy

there 7.5 inch wide. ive got 235's on them. mine dont have any plates on them and when i turn supa hard lift it scrubs a little on the plastic splash guard in the wheel well.

iv you want some pics taken feel free to ask

Howdy all,
so you don't need any spacers? as i said before i read people have needed them for these type of rims. out of curiosity what are the exact numbers on your tyres (235/??/r17)
thanks
uncle andy
p.s. pics would be great.

They use the exact same specifications as falcon rims, so you don't need spacers. He probably has 235/40r17 rubber on them, thats whats on my 17s.

there 7.5 inch wide. ive got 235's on them. mine dont have any plates on them and when i turn supa hard lift it scrubs a little on the plastic splash guard in the wheel well.

iv you want some pics taken feel free to ask

How do i stop that scrubbing? It really pi**es me off.

Howdy all,
so you don't need any spacers? as i said before i read people have needed them for these type of rims. out of curiosity what are the exact numbers on your tyres (235/??/r17)
thanks
uncle andy
p.s. pics would be great.
235/45/r17
and if you were in vic i would've sold you mine

since ive got the manual just turn full lock bout 2500 revs and dump clutch in wet. spins tyres and puts hole in plastic from tyres rubbing and then noise goes away. or you could just remove it. all it does sheild engine bay from water. since its plastic you could find where it scrubs and remove just a section of it so the tyres dont hit it.

p.s ill take a pic tomoz its too dark now

One of the FS threads has a post that says that magna wheels can't fit falcon cause the
spigot diameter (stub diameter) is too small which to me means that the spigot diameter of
the teritory/falcon rims are bigger which means you need spigot rings. Spacers are used to
change the offset.

Following what vlad said make sure you check the spigot size. The wheel studs are not designed to carry the weight of the car, the spigot is. Just my 5 cents. :D

Last I heard spacers are illegal...

Howdy all;
Ok spacers = BAD!!. What prices would i be looking at for a set of 4 spigot rings? Then to go and check the prices of tyres before making a decision on the rims. (student living on my own :rant: but thats a nother story in itself).
Thanks
Uncle Andy

Why go for heavy steel rims. You'll end up paying more in fuel.

Why not go to Bob Jane and get one of their 17" packages which would only be $1100
which includes tyres, wheels, balance,alignment, locknuts etc.

Unless, ofcourse you are getting the teritory rims for next to nothing and then you still
have to spend somthing like $600-$800 for a set of 17" tyres.

you wont need the spigot rings. they fit perfectly on the hubs

Howdy all;
I like the look of them on the TS magna. They give them a beefier look in my opinion. That and ive seen a set on ebay for next to nothing
Thanks
Uncle Andy

heres the pic as promised. havent washed it cause of water restrictions.

heres the pic as promised. havent washed it cause of water restrictions.

One way to test whether the ford rims are a tight fit is to jack the car up, loosen all the
nuts, hold the wheel flush with the axel and see if there is any movement.

Here (http://planetsoarer.com/offset/studs.htm)is a link to what can happen if the spigot does not take the load.

theres none. although they are really heavy cause there steel. they weigh bout 35 kg with tyres.

theres none. although they are really heavy cause there steel. they weigh bout 35 kg with tyres.

which means that you are carrying an extra male adult everytime you drive (diff in weight
of all 4 compared to alloys) which also means the car has crap acceleration, braking and
cornering abilities and puts extra stress on the suspension and drivetrain components.

so what if it does weigh more. hasnt done anything yet. havent noticed any difference in acceleration or handeling or fuel consumption.

which means that you are carrying an extra male adult everytime you drive (diff in weight
of all 4 compared to alloys) which also means the car has crap acceleration, braking and
cornering abilities and puts extra stress on the suspension and drivetrain components.
all valid points except the suspension... wheels are unsprung weight, which won't affect the suspension at all. in fact, when you think about it, he's lowering the centre of gravity too, which can be a good thing in cornering.

cheers,
.wook

all valid points except the suspension... wheels are unsprung weight, which won't affect the suspension at all. in fact, when you think about it, he's lowering the centre of gravity too, which can be a good thing in cornering.

cheers,
.wook

It may have lowered centre of gravity, but think of this. Hold a bike wheel in you hand,
spin it and then try to change direction. The heavier wheel has more momentum which also
puts more strain on the steering pump. Please read (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1328054&highlight=wheel+weight+dyno).

It may have lowered centre of gravity, but think of this. Hold a bike wheel in you hand,
spin it and then try to change direction. The heavier wheel has more momentum which also
puts more strain on the steering pump. Please read (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1328054&highlight=wheel+weight+dyno).

I'm aware of centrifugal forces. I wasn't challenging the fact that heavier wheels are harder to turn and stop than lighter wheels. the main point I wanted to make was that the suspension is not affected at all by the weight of the wheels, because they are unsprung weight.

I'm aware of centrifugal forces. I wasn't challenging the fact that heavier wheels are harder to turn and stop than lighter wheels. the main point I wanted to make was that the suspension is not affected at all by the weight of the wheels, because they are unsprung weight.

Please also read this (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=104526). heavier unsprung weight stresses the suspension becuase it makes it
more difficult for the suspension to control the wheels.

v-lad so don't take this wrong but the info is coming from someone who has done it (sterio god, jellmag), where as your going on here say. i can understand u being worried about another members saftey but he has been told that they will work. now was that thread u were talking about just for 3rd gens?? Or all gens, just curious cos i get alot of 3rd gen ppl giving out the wrong info for 1st and 2nd gens cos they saw a post somewhere instead actully knowing cos they've owned one before the 3rd gen. Not flaming u but it seems the thread is dragging out when the question was answered by a member who has done it.

Howdy all;
Sorry i didnt mean to start a riot here :redface: It was just a thought that had crossed my mind. Thank ou for everyones opinions and they have been taken well into account. However ive missed getting the teritory rims (damn closing bidders :rant: ) so now im looking into different avenues (second hand VRX rims :D )
Thanks
Uncle Andy

Please also read this (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=104526). heavier unsprung weight stresses the suspension becuase it makes it
more difficult for the suspension to control the wheels.
they're talking about going from 16"s to 22"s, not 14"s to 17"s... I doubt the Territory rims are much heavier than the stock 14"s or 15"s that came on the TS.

there about 5-10 kg heavier. than stock. because less air and more wheel. i always turn when moving and never full lock.

v-lad so don't take this wrong but the info is coming from someone who has done it (sterio god, jellmag), where as your going on here say. i can understand u being worried about another members saftey but he has been told that they will work. now was that thread u were talking about just for 3rd gens?? Or all gens, just curious cos i get alot of 3rd gen ppl giving out the wrong info for 1st and 2nd gens cos they saw a post somewhere instead actully knowing cos they've owned one before the 3rd gen. Not flaming u but it seems the thread is dragging out when the question was answered by a member who has done it.

Just because they did it does not mean its done to specification. I owned a 2nd gen before
and have fitted larger aftermarket wheels to it. Also from searching, I found that the
centre hub (spigot) diameter on the magnas are 67mm and 70.5mm on the Falcon/Territory
which means it will fit BUT it means that the weight of the car is supported by the bolts
and not the axel stub and if its not centred, could cause balancing issues (Hub-centric
as opposed to lug-centric).

And most importantly, a friend of mine had a tyre dealer fit wheels to his Mondeo and on
a trip from Melbourne to Adelaide, two bolts from each of the rear wheels sheared off.
Reason, they fitted falcon spec wheels to the mondeo (70.5mm as opposed to 67mm). See
my first post.

where do you get these spigot things from and ill check to see if i need them then

where do you get these spigot things from and ill check to see if i need them then

At any decent tyre retailer. The wheels I have at the moment has aspigot size bigger than
what my car has. Its manufactured with the biggest PCD to suit vehicles with the same PCD. Tyre fitters will then insert spigot rings as necessary.

ill check it out and see if i need it but prob wont as there only plastic and the strength to hold on the wheel is from the bolts.

ill check it out and see if i need it but prob wont as there only plastic and the strength to hold on the wheel is from the bolts.

Spigot rings are not all made from Plastic, and those that are are made from pretty strong
plastic. The Spigot is used to centre the wheel and also the carry the weight. The lug nuts
are only there to hold the wheels on. They are not designed to carry weight (unless its the
old type of cars which are lug centric but those have stronger lug nuts and not axel stub
for the wheels to sit on).

Trust me, the feeling of the car wobbling while travelling at 100km/hr is not feeling you
want to experience.