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gremlin
02-02-2007, 09:03 AM
Found these on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170073972689&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:AU:1

the seller reckons they fit on a magna!
i emailed him and asked is he sure and what profile tyre he would use

this is his reply:

yes these will fit on your magna but it would be a very tight fit. there is the possibility that you would have to lip the guards to stop the tyres from rubbing.
the profile would vary from like 35/40/45/50 depending on what clearance you have on your magna.
thanks for asking
wheelman40

forget the design of them, thats not the issue.. im looking for comments on the fitment of 22s on a magna.. my 20s with 225/30s fit perfect with no rubbing.. how are 22s going to work? should i bother trying this or am i kidding myself even bothering?

manifesto
02-02-2007, 09:11 AM
man, 20's are way big enuff on a magna, but i cant see why u couldnt fit 22's if u raise the car slighly and pump the guards.

i rekon it would look silly tho - and throw ur speedo right outa whack

VRX
02-02-2007, 09:17 AM
yeh why would you even want to put 22's on a magna unless you want it to look like a 4WD, it would look stoopid. Don't bother.

Dee
02-02-2007, 09:20 AM
they can physically fit - and you wouldnt have much issues.

but legalities would suck.. but thats a personal thing :P


edit* i cant actually visit the ebay link, but as the person below said they were 9.5" wide then hahaha, no :( lol.

Damo_ooyar
02-02-2007, 09:28 AM
lol profile would vary from 15/20 maybe, sheesh I cant even believe hes even wrote 50 profile on there.... Just buy a few ronnie's n glue em to ya wheels cos thats about the profile you'll be needin....

But my personal opinion, stick with the ones you got they look sweeet :D

science
02-02-2007, 09:59 AM
Ive delt with 22's on 300c's and jeeps, and the rim is going to be larger than the rim and tyre you have on the magna now! adding tyres is going to be imposible without cutting out your gards. and a 9.5" rim will need a 265 tyre, so the profile needed would have to be what, 05? mabey 15? and we all know that a 235 20" just fits. how is a 265 going to fit?

hydro
02-02-2007, 10:25 AM
Why 22"s???.... :confused:









Get 24"s :bowrofl: :D

bob_saget
02-02-2007, 10:50 AM
i reckon they'd fit... would want a skinnier wheel though, i got 225/30/r20's on mine and with that prifile i reckon another inch larger wheel would fit no worries, 22's might require some rolling and maybe flaring of the gaurds, but yeh they'd fit

ps- i quite like the design of that rim, would look nuts on a black (your) car

KING EGO
02-02-2007, 10:55 AM
Do it chris.. Ill even help you make them fit..:P Ill bring the angle grinder around with me..:P

They will go on but driving the car would be a differant issue then you will have to raise it.. they def wont be legal..:P

mtn_goat
02-02-2007, 11:42 AM
yes these will fit on your magna but it would be a very tight fit. there is the possibility that you would have to lip the guards to stop the tyres from rubbing.
the profile would vary from like 35/40/45/50 depending on what clearance you have on your magna.



Whether or not you could make them fit, The guy obviously doesn't *know* that they'll fit, If he *knew* then he'd *know* whether you had to lip or not, and he'd be able to give you somewhat better advice on profile. Whatever you do, don't take the ebay guys word for it.

If you grab 'em, you might want to pick up some liquid latex to spray around 'em :)

22's would certainly give you bragging rights, and quite future proof if you wanted to replace the magna with, say, a H2 :)

andrewd
02-02-2007, 12:27 PM
i trial fitted a 22" rim to my car and it fits no problems but you will need to get the correct width and offset, there is a 235/30/22 tyre and its only a few mm taller than the current 20" setup which i have which is spot on in rolling diameter compared to the stock setup on mine....

problem is the shop ordered a 22x9.5" and it stuck out of the front guards by an inch or 2 lol, im sure that with a 22 x 8" in the correct offset the fronts will fit unmodified and the rears may require guard work, on a std height magna they will fit straight on, but not on mine as i'd say im pretty low, look at the pic in my profile..

i got quoted $3650 all up including tyres :badgrin: but i got a s/c on it now so that idea is out the door

TZABOY
02-02-2007, 01:11 PM
go down to the tyre shop and ask to throw a set on, if you can go lock to lock while moving then go for it. you're the right idiot to do it chris! :thumbsup:

Spackbace
02-02-2007, 02:24 PM
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=wheelCloseUp&wheelMake=Zinik&wheelModel=Z9+Sabini&wheelFinish=Black+w%2FChrome+Lip&GCID=C13674x032&code=yes

seems they come in 20s if u really want em? or did u just want 22s?

gremlin
02-02-2007, 03:11 PM
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=wheelCloseUp&wheelMake=Zinik&wheelModel=Z9+Sabini&wheelFinish=Black+w%2FChrome+Lip&GCID=C13674x032&code=yes

seems they come in 20s if u really want em? or did u just want 22s?

got 20s. wasnt really that i liked the style of rim.. in fact i probably wouldnt want those ones pictured.. was more the fact that i wanted 22s

tj02
02-02-2007, 04:14 PM
22's are a tad overboard dont you think, I sometimes think even 20's look too big on a magna haha...your wheels are sweet as they are!

GRDPuck
02-02-2007, 09:41 PM
My opinion...

gremlin,
Stick with your current 20's - they look sweet and don't need to be changed.
Save your $$$ or spend it on something else.

Oh, and couldn't help myself - just had to add the attached pic...
Better get that angle grinder warmed up.

MagnaByDesign
02-02-2007, 09:52 PM
JUst be aware that one of the reasons the Magna only had a rim size of 17 max from the factory was the suspension arms are only tested safely to that size. Hence why Ralliarts only got 17's. And why the AWD's came from the factory with 16's. The newer 17 compatible suspension are wouldn't fit the AWD. Personally I think you are pushing the limits with 20's, 22's would put a lot of torsional strain on the steering and suspension. Can anyone say stress fracture?

gremlin
03-02-2007, 07:16 AM
JUst be aware that one of the reasons the Magna only had a rim size of 17 max from the factory was the suspension arms are only tested safely to that size. Hence why Ralliarts only got 17's. And why the AWD's came from the factory with 16's. The newer 17 compatible suspension are wouldn't fit the AWD. Personally I think you are pushing the limits with 20's, 22's would put a lot of torsional strain on the steering and suspension. Can anyone say stress fracture?

yeah good point actually.. never thought about the stress it would be putting on the suspension and steering.. i wonder if the 20s are also asking a bit much in this regard to?

piv
03-02-2007, 09:20 AM
yeah good point actually.. never thought about the stress it would be putting on the suspension and steering.. i wonder if the 20s are also asking a bit much in this regard to?

Some people are pretty confident that 20's help break diffs, it'd make sense since the gearbox still puts out the same amount of torque in each gear, yet the larger rolling diameter means more strain on the diff under cornering. For every unit you increase the rolling diameter of the rim the force on the diff is multiplied by 3. Combine that with some engine mods and it's easy to see why diffs go bang.

Lucifer
03-02-2007, 09:30 AM
Some people are pretty confident that 20's help break diffs, it'd make sense since the gearbox still puts out the same amount of torque in each gear, yet the larger rolling diameter means more strain on the diff under cornering. For every unit you increase the rolling diameter of the rim the force on the diff is multiplied by 3. Combine that with some engine mods and it's easy to see why diffs go bang.
You mean unsprung weight in relation to the increased rolling diameter of the rim itself (not the rubber) right? Perhaps Ego should hear of this lol

Black Beard
03-02-2007, 09:33 AM
You mean unsprung weight in relation to the increased rolling diameter of the rim itself (not the rubber) right? Perhaps Ego should hear of this lol

Pretty sure Ego is familiar with this concept.

Bigs
03-02-2007, 11:13 PM
JUst be aware that one of the reasons the Magna only had a rim size of 17 max from the factory was the suspension arms are only tested safely to that size. Hence why Ralliarts only got 17's. And why the AWD's came from the factory with 16's. The newer 17 compatible suspension are wouldn't fit the AWD. Personally I think you are pushing the limits with 20's, 22's would put a lot of torsional strain on the steering and suspension. Can anyone say stress fracture?

I would be more worried about messing up the thousands of dollars spent by mitsu research getting your differential, wheel diameter and gear ratios perfectly working together, you may have mechanical problems down teh track.

andrewd
04-02-2007, 07:55 AM
I would be more worried about messing up the thousands of dollars spent by mitsu research getting your differential, wheel diameter and gear ratios perfectly working together



thousands lol, and in the case of other car makers its probably millions lol