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MagTech
02-02-2007, 10:00 AM
3 Part Project

1. DIY HEAT SHIELD/SCOOPS - DONE
2. DIY SHORT RAM COLD AIR INTAKE-DONE
3. DIY INSTALLATION OF SCOOPS

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1. DIY HEAT SHIELD NOT USED IN THIS PROJECT
Hi guys it's me again, this time is a diy cai for 3rd gen magna. This is a 3 part series for my project and I already finished the 1st part, an Injen style heat shield.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/DSC00070-1.jpg

This is made from aluminum so it can be mirror polished (mine not yet) so the heat will reflects back, and less heat absorption unlike stainless steel. I also painted the inside with black hi-temp paint to eliminate the reflection of heat energy.

Don't mind the blue spaghetti, I will arrange that latter.

As I've said, this is only the 1st part so you don't really know what's up for the 2nd and 3rd part of these series, so negative comments...maybe latter.lol

NACA SCOOPS-DONE
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00069.jpg

BUMPER SCOOP-DONE
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00081-1.jpg
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2. DIY SHORT RAM COLD AIR INTAKE-DONE
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00144.jpg
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3. DIY INSTALLATION OF SCOOPS- ON-GOING

Lucifer
02-02-2007, 11:29 AM
Where is the CAI?

GoTRICE
02-02-2007, 11:47 AM
good but on an enclosed space i believe it'll only hold off the higher temps for a longer amount of time.

what i really wanted to ask, hows that grounding kits perform??

James0
02-02-2007, 11:48 AM
More like HAI? hot air induction, but yeah keen to see the next 2 stages, hurry up if i was you, unless ur engine likes hot air?

Scorpion
02-02-2007, 01:03 PM
Sorry, but I have to ask ... is this expected to be a legal setup ?

My understanding is that the box covering the intake (in this case the heat shield) should be enclosed to isolate it in the engine bay and presumably having a non-enclosing heat shield there means you are not intending to have a CAI to extend the inlet from the filter to outside the engine bay.

What is Part 3 going to involve ?
:confused:

MagTech
02-02-2007, 04:16 PM
More like HAI? hot air induction, but yeah keen to see the next 2 stages, hurry up if i was you, unless ur engine likes hot air?

Ha ha, that was just a test fitted. Not yet using it until it was all finished. Thanks

MagTech
02-02-2007, 04:24 PM
Where is the CAI?
Be patient mate, that will be on 2nd part.
2 of this naca air scoop will installed on the bonnet.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/naca.jpg

M4DDOG
02-02-2007, 08:41 PM
wat are all those blue cables and wat do they do??
:confused:
It's a grounding kit.
You attach multiple high low guage wires to the ground terminal on the battery and then lead these to various parts of the car body. It's to help the car ground through the battery better improving how all the electronics in your car work.

Zep
02-02-2007, 09:15 PM
Lookin' good so far, can't wait to see the rest :D

bob_saget
02-02-2007, 11:14 PM
Be patient mate, that will be on 2nd part.
2 of this naca air scoop will installed on the bonnet.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/naca.jpg

can any one else picture whats going to happen when it rains? put a little measuring cup under it and you can give us all the average rainfall for your area next time lol

E-D-E
03-02-2007, 08:36 AM
can any one else picture whats going to happen when it rains? put a little measuring cup under it and you can give us all the average rainfall for your area next time lol


ooooooh that cant be good at all.

Lucifer
03-02-2007, 08:53 AM
Be patient mate, that will be on 2nd part.
2 of this naca air scoop will installed on the bonnet.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/naca.jpg
As much as I can appreciate the functionality of a hood scoop, those wouldn't match the form of your magna, which has nice sharp lines all over it. You can pick up similar styled ones that are squarish that would look a lot better. I'd have stuck with your stock over-radiator-stock-CAI-snorkel if I were you, and whacked a K&N panel into it.

Party boy
03-02-2007, 09:34 AM
More like HAI? hot air induction, but yeah keen to see the next 2 stages, hurry up if i was you, unless ur engine likes hot air?

:stoopid: yer what he sed... pod filters are always gunner suck in hot air cause of where they are...putting a cover on it wont do nuffin.but will be interested to see it when its done.looks like you've made it look neat anyway:P

Party boy
03-02-2007, 09:37 AM
i bet you wont see any differnce on the dyno. however put a K&N panel filter in and you'll see the differnce. guess some pple like the sucking noise the pod filter makes ( wannabe turbo noise):bowrofl:

MagTech
03-02-2007, 11:35 AM
As much as I can appreciate the functionality of a hood scoop, those wouldn't match the form of your magna, which has nice sharp lines all over it. You can pick up similar styled ones that are squarish that would look a lot better. I'd have stuck with your stock over-radiator-stock-CAI-snorkel if I were you, and whacked a K&N panel into it.
Not bad at all.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/2rivalsMitsM_m.jpg

smooth2
03-02-2007, 11:41 AM
holly re-size batman:bowrofl: :badgrin: :bowrofl:

Party boy
03-02-2007, 02:37 PM
but thats a 380..not a magna. i believe there is a difference. but anyway even if it does look good..ull still have alot of hot air comeing in

Lucifer
03-02-2007, 03:28 PM
Not bad at all.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/2rivalsMitsM_m.jpg
Dude, notice the shape of the scoop on that 380? It's square, yours are round. Those on the 380 are the style I referred to in my previous post, they would look better on your car as opposed to those tin metal things you had before.

smooth2
03-02-2007, 03:35 PM
Dude, notice the shape of the scoop on that 380? It's square, yours are round. Those on the 380 are the style I referred to in my previous post, they would look better on your car as opposed to those tin metal things you had before.


square where?? they don't look square at all. they look like xb ford vents. well atleast he's doing something which is more than most magna ower can say. how many mods have u fabricated:D talk about shooting him down. not flaming u but i recon we should wait for the final product before telling what he should have used seeing as we're all experts on style and fabrication here.

Lucifer
03-02-2007, 03:40 PM
square where?? they don't look square at all. they look like xb ford vents. well atleast he's doing something which is more than most magna ower can say. how many mods have u fabricated:D talk about shooting him down. not flaming u but i recon we should wait for the final product before telling what he should have used seeing as we're all experts on style and fabrication here.
I'm only advising him on what scoop would actually suit his car, can nobody see that the one he has photographed vs the TMR380's are different in shape? (Please note the circular hole and rounded shape of the bare one, and the 380's rectangular shape)

I'm no expert in fabrication by any means, I know how to do some things, letterbox grille etc. I'll wait for the final product, like I said, I'm just advising.

BiG 4 CyL
03-02-2007, 03:59 PM
Ha ha, that was just a test fitted. Not yet using it until it was all finished. Thanks

position the pod behind the front bar or something, then youve got yourself a cai.
thats what i did

MagTech
05-02-2007, 04:08 PM
This is just an update, I already finished one of the scoops and hopefully another one tomorrow. Everything is getting slow especially when you're running out of $$$.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00065.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00064.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00066.jpg

Fritz
05-02-2007, 04:13 PM
Im not really up to date with all the technical stuff, but i thought that hood-scoops/vent werent mean to let the cool air in but to let the hot air out????

MagTech
05-02-2007, 04:14 PM
Not really, it is usually use to scoop air but some use it to flush hot air
http://www.revlimiter.net/mods/pix/sc_intake6.jpg

Fritz
05-02-2007, 04:19 PM
Not really, it is usually use to scoop air but some use it to flush hot air


as i said im not up to date :P

2000advanced
05-02-2007, 04:27 PM
One of my mates drives a Mirage, modified a bit. His tilted his bonnet down so the hot air comes out easyer from the back?? not sure if this actually works.

MagTech
05-02-2007, 04:28 PM
as i said im not up to date :P
yup, and maybe I will use mine for both.

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
05-02-2007, 05:06 PM
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00065.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00064.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00066.jpg

Cricket box with toilet access? :confused:

Cant wait to see it all set up mate. :D

2000advanced
05-02-2007, 05:08 PM
I think this will turn up nicely, good on ya mate.

MagTech
05-02-2007, 07:13 PM
Cricket box with toilet access? :confused:

Cant wait to see it all set up mate. :D

Yeah, coz I molded it from my toilet bowl. lol lol lol

MagTech
07-02-2007, 07:23 PM
Just updating my project log...
2 naca scoops finished.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00069.jpg

Grill scoop on-going
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00070.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00067.jpg

smooth2
07-02-2007, 07:39 PM
did u mold it out of fibre glass ur self. nice job if thats the case. im liking ur work so far keep it going:D

Twunka
07-02-2007, 08:04 PM
i like what ya doin man its something different to the usualy rims, dump, kit that everyone does

MagTech
07-02-2007, 08:30 PM
labor of love

Lenny
08-02-2007, 07:30 AM
will you consider mass producing the cai intake hole for the lower grill?

Magtone
08-02-2007, 08:07 AM
great work mate....not that I can use it like that with foggies but you may get a bit more call for making these

MagTech
08-02-2007, 03:14 PM
Grill scoop finished and fitted.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00080.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00081-1.jpg

smooth2
08-02-2007, 03:21 PM
that pretty clean looking,have u thought about doing it the same car as your car?. now as to my above question did u make it out of fiber glass urself or did u buy them?

MagTech
08-02-2007, 03:31 PM
will you consider mass producing the cai intake hole for the lower grill?
Yeah I thought of that. But I'm concern with the quality, I might not provide you the quality that you are all expecting for a product. I'll think about it.

MagTech
08-02-2007, 03:32 PM
that pretty clean looking,have u thought about doing it the same car as your car?. now as to my above question did u make it out of fiber glass urself or did u buy them?

Yep, I made it myself.

2000advanced
08-02-2007, 07:03 PM
So now you are going to run you pod down to the scoop??

[TUFFTR]
08-02-2007, 07:16 PM
Thats a good idea mate!

given me an "idea" aswell.

also...where can i get a HEATPROOF flexible pipe for my CAI from?

Preacher Man
08-02-2007, 08:41 PM
Yep, I made it myself.

I'd just like to say
"You've done a fantastic job."

Thanks.
That's all I have to say apart from, damn I wish I could fiberglass like that. In fact I wish I could fiberglass altogether.

Looking forward to seeing the final result.

MagTech
08-02-2007, 08:53 PM
So now you are going to run you pod down to the scoop??
No, just an inlet to engine bay

MagTech
08-02-2007, 08:53 PM
I'd just like to say
"You've done a fantastic job."

Thanks.
That's all I have to say apart from, damn I wish I could fiberglass like that. In fact I wish I could fiberglass altogether.

Looking forward to seeing the final result.

Thanks:)

turbo_charade
09-02-2007, 01:23 PM
Great work and fiberglassing quality.

But where is the PVC drain pipe like all the other users here :bowrofl:

Matty_J
09-02-2007, 03:13 PM
Great work and fiberglassing quality.

But where is the PVC drain pipe like all the other users here :bowrofl:


hey PVC pipe = vtec, i thought you knew that!!

Good job on the setup mate, not that you will gain anymore power but very tidy, should look sweet when its finished

MagTech
10-02-2007, 08:22 PM
OK, the future of my project will be something like this:
1. Short ram intake.
2. Battery will be move a bit to give way for my K&N pod filter
3. Yeah, PVC pipe will be connected to the grill scoop to provide some more cool air in the intake.
4. 2 naca scoops will be fitted on the bonnet flush-out heat from the engine bay.
Little change of plan I guess.

ATM, I'm waiting for my 3" pipe to get started.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/aem-v6shortfront.jpg

Preacher Man
10-02-2007, 09:19 PM
You've moved your battery and there's a black rail across the front of the plennum.
Are you going to let us know your secrets?



Out of embarressment I had to look at the picture a few times to figure out which angle it was taken from until I figured that stuff had been moved.
And where did you get your strut brace from? I prefer the look of that one to the whiteline product. The black powder coating looks less bling and more functional (not that there's anything wrong with whiteline ... very happy with mine).

Nick
10-02-2007, 09:37 PM
You've moved your battery and there's a black rail across the front of the plennum.
Are you going to let us know your secrets?



Out of embarressment I had to look at the picture a few times to figure out which angle it was taken from until I figured that stuff had been moved.
And where did you get your strut brace from? I prefer the look of that one to the whiteline product. The black powder coating looks less bling and more functional (not that there's anything wrong with whiteline ... very happy with mine).

Dude, that aint his or else he'd say that his short ram intake would be comlpeted. That picture is there just for illustration purposes when someone asks what a short ram intake IS. That's not even a magna, I think its a yank mitsu.

greenmatt
10-02-2007, 11:37 PM
Dude, that aint his or else he'd say that his short ram intake would be comlpeted. That picture is there just for illustration purposes when someone asks what a short ram intake IS. That's not even a magna, I think its a yank mitsu.

Its off an eclipse with a 6g72 I think.

Preacher Man
11-02-2007, 04:45 PM
Can I go and hide now? :redface:

MagTech
19-02-2007, 05:16 PM
Just an Update:

My short ram now ready for installation
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00104.jpg

Test
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00099.jpg

Cost for this short ram:
S/S Pipe FREE
3" 90deg silicone hose $31.00
3" 45deg silicone hose 2.25
4"-3" reducer silicone hose 24.00
postage (ebay) 25.50
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$82.75
Hose clamps 15.00
K&N Pod Filter(+postage) 155.00
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TOTAL $252.75
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I hope I can install it tomorrow

Black Beard
19-02-2007, 05:21 PM
Looks good, what you going to do with your battery??

MagTech
19-02-2007, 05:30 PM
Looks good, what you going to do with your battery??
Move a little if possible or relocate in the boot.

hlucin8
19-02-2007, 05:32 PM
you cant move it a "little"
it would need to go to the boot...
but whats the point. the pods dtill gonna be sucking in hot air and its gonna cost you a **** load to loose performance over a standard air box :nuts:

[TUFFTR]
19-02-2007, 05:40 PM
What kind of piping is that mate?

MagTech
19-02-2007, 05:44 PM
you cant move it a "little"
it would need to go to the boot...
but whats the point. the pods dtill gonna be sucking in hot air and its gonna cost you a **** load to loose performance over a standard air box :nuts:


REALLY???:nuts:

MagTech
19-02-2007, 05:44 PM
']What kind of piping is that mate?

Silicone hose and stainless steel pipe

[TUFFTR]
19-02-2007, 05:47 PM
Silicone hose and stainless steel pipe

Thats not the expensive stuff from sueprcheap is it? cause i might just use some cheap PVC stuff i dont want it to melt

MagTech
19-02-2007, 05:49 PM
']Thats not the expensive stuff from sueprcheap is it? cause i might just use some cheap PVC stuff i dont want it to melt

Cost for this short ram:
S/S Pipe FREE
3" 90deg silicone hose $31.00
3" 45deg silicone hose 2.25
4"-3" reducer silicone hose 24.00
postage (ebay) 25.50
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$82.75
Hose clamps 15.00
K&N Pod Filter(+postage) 155.00
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TOTAL $252.75
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Lenny
19-02-2007, 06:54 PM
so when u chucking in the scoops

Black Beard
19-02-2007, 06:58 PM
you cant move it a "little"


Yeah you can..... I moved mine a "little" to make room for my intercooler piping...... turned it 90 degrees and had a new bracket made up to hold in in place. Probably wont make room to fit a pod filter and Maf sensor - I'm betting it will have to be relocated to the boot.

MagTech
19-02-2007, 07:32 PM
so when u chucking in the scoops

Maybe that's the last part of the intake mods.

greenmatt
19-02-2007, 07:36 PM
Cost for this short ram:
S/S Pipe FREE
3" 90deg silicone hose $31.00
3" 45deg silicone hose 2.25
4"-3" reducer silicone hose 24.00
postage (ebay) 25.50
-------
$82.75
Hose clamps 15.00
K&N Pod Filter(+postage) 155.00
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TOTAL $252.75
========

Do you have links for those pieces. May just replace the rubber elbow section between my pod box and the throttle body.

MagTech
19-02-2007, 07:47 PM
Do you have links for those pieces. May just replace the rubber elbow section between my pod box and the throttle body.

Reducer 4"-3"
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SILICONE-HOSE-4-3-REDUCER-Intercooler-Intake_W0QQitemZ180085445037QQihZ008QQcategoryZ724 78QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

90Deg 3"
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SILICONE-HOSE-90Deg-3-76mm-ID-Intercooler-Intake-Bend_W0QQitemZ180085476816QQihZ008QQcategoryZ72478 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

45Deg 3"
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Silicon-bend-3-INCH-X-45-Deg-TURBO-Intercooler-Piping_W0QQitemZ200079458148QQihZ010QQcategoryZ438 07QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The 3" S/S pipe, free from my brother-in-law who works in the machine shop.:)

hlucin8
19-02-2007, 11:26 PM
Yeah you can..... I moved mine a "little" to make room for my intercooler piping...... turned it 90 degrees and had a new bracket made up to hold in in place. Probably wont make room to fit a pod filter and Maf sensor - I'm betting it will have to be relocated to the boot.

Sorry :)

Thats what i meant...
for the pod to fit on that pipe how it shows in the pic. you cant move it a little

MagTech
21-02-2007, 07:13 AM
Sorry :)

Thats what i meant...
for the pod to fit on that pipe how it shows in the pic. you cant move it a little

REALLY??? THEN HAVE A LOOK:shock:

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00138.jpg

I just finished last night the hardest modification I've done, so far, to my Magna.
....

I still need to arrange my grounding wires and install the heat shield, so details maybe later.

:dancin: :dancin:

MagTech
21-02-2007, 07:39 AM
but whats the point. the pods dtill gonna be sucking in hot air and its gonna cost you a **** load to loose performance over a standard air box :nuts:

Just wait until the project is finish, then I'll leave that question to you.

Phonic
21-02-2007, 08:35 AM
Excellent work, I love your attention to detail. Very well thought out modifications, keep up the great work. :D

So all you need now is a partition for the POD with a cold air feed. Maybe some aluminium sheeting with a rubber strip on top?

Lenny
21-02-2007, 08:48 AM
looks good, cant wait to see the scoop go on. i think it was on the evo 6, the airfilter was enclosed in its own box and the only air it gets come through the bonnet scoops. have u thought about doing this. boxing ur pod and having the scoops draw the air into it

MagTech
22-02-2007, 02:25 PM
All done...
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00145.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00146.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00148.jpg

I wasn't able to use the Injen Style heat shield due to lack of space, so I just make a box type shield with insulation.

James0
22-02-2007, 02:31 PM
Looks bloody good mate! Alot like the Gen 3 cold air induction kit from k&n.
Will u be sucking cold air from anywhere? bonet scoop etc?

Rothguard
22-02-2007, 02:37 PM
when can i buy a kit and how much will it be :P

MagTech
22-02-2007, 02:44 PM
when can i buy a kit and how much will it be :P
I'm not into business mate, maybe somebody will:D

MagTech
22-02-2007, 02:47 PM
Looks bloody good mate! Alot like the Gen 3 cold air induction kit from k&n.
Will u be sucking cold air from anywhere? bonet scoop etc?

Here
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/image_00081-1.jpg

[TUFFTR]
22-02-2007, 02:56 PM
Most important question is.
For the $2xx you spent on this, how does she go now?

MagTech
22-02-2007, 03:10 PM
']Most important question is.
For the $2xx you spent on this, how does she go now?

Initially, better engine response... and I feel great for my project, and there's no price for making yourself feel good.

likeashot
22-02-2007, 03:44 PM
Excellent work, I love your attention to detail. Very well thought out modifications, keep up the great work. :D

So all you need now is a partition for the POD with a cold air feed. Maybe some aluminium sheeting with a rubber strip on top?

:stoopid:
Thats a great setup you have there, but you need the rubber strip on top of the shield to seal it when bonnet is down.(If you aren't planning that already):D

MagTech
22-02-2007, 04:24 PM
:stoopid:
Thats a great setup you have there, but you need the rubber strip on top of the shield to seal it when bonnet is down.(If you aren't planning that already):D

My plan is polycarbonate. Thanks

likeashot
22-02-2007, 04:27 PM
My plan is polycarbonate. Thanks

Cool can't wait to see finished product.:thumbsup:

Craig O
22-02-2007, 05:52 PM
Is the batt sitting on the transmission??? Looks great!!!!!!!!

MagTech
23-02-2007, 01:34 PM
Is the batt sitting on the transmission??? Looks great!!!!!!!!
No, the battery is not sitting on the tranny:)

Magnatised
05-03-2007, 03:02 PM
Can I just ask, because I want to do something similar to this, where does the 3 inch stainless steel pipe come into it? Does the silicon hose cover the steel pipe?

Thanks,
Daniel

MagTech
05-03-2007, 06:57 PM
Can I just ask, because I want to do something similar to this, where does the 3 inch stainless steel pipe come into it? Does the silicon hose cover the steel pipe?

Thanks,
Daniel
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/MagnaTech07/shortram.jpg

Magnatised
05-03-2007, 07:05 PM
Wow. Fantastic diagram!

Might start this next month. :D

Thanks!

Daniel

MagTech
06-03-2007, 09:36 AM
Wow. Fantastic diagram!

Might start this next month. :D

Thanks!

Daniel

Would you like to dyno before and after the installation so you will know the difference, nah...just a wishful thinking since it's very expensive. Just let me know if you feel any anything after the mod. Mine...totally unexpected.

magnagic
07-03-2007, 04:56 PM
Hi guys i played around with abit of flexi pipe today. below is what i did.
i took it for a quick spin and thought i noticed a fair diference . is it actualy possibly as the area of intake is 16cm2 greater than the standard snorkle.??? Or was my mind playing wishful tricks :bowrofl:

oh yeah the bottom bit of the hose was mounted b4 i went lol

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/d8a82ef89a.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/3d3ab96f65.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

MagTech
07-03-2007, 05:02 PM
That's nice, good job indeed.
Bell mouth is a nice add-on to your cai.
I'm just thinking if it is possible to place the opening behind your bumper grill...

...I'm hoping to have that kind of bumper someday:nuts:

magnagic
07-03-2007, 05:05 PM
thankyou!
So do you think it would make any differnce. It felt like it reved out much faster?????:redface: or am i dreaming?

MagTech
07-03-2007, 05:17 PM
thankyou!
So do you think it would make any differnce. It felt like it reved out much faster?????:redface: or am i dreaming?

That's venturi effect, just to speed up the air delivery. PVC pipe will do the job, heat
one end and mod like a trumpet.

magnagic
07-03-2007, 05:35 PM
this is where i was going to run it.. is it worth doing???


http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/b3f46086f3.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

mozzaldinho
07-03-2007, 05:44 PM
im loving this mod

bcoz even i can do it, and i cant do anything lol

haha can i just ask wher to get the blue pipe stuff from, hwo much does it cost..

and how do i secure it to my airbox thingo ro what ever you call it :P

haha just quickly i have asked this around b4, but i may aswell get another opinoin..

under the hood resonators...if i take em off will i loose power...and can i damage my car?

magnagic
07-03-2007, 06:17 PM
not sure what it costs! its 100mm pipe it moulds straight in. (it was ment to be lol)

what are the hood resonators for?? :bowrofl:
i kow nothing about cars :nuts:

mozzaldinho
07-03-2007, 06:25 PM
haha i dunno what they do, but if u take em off u can hear a sucking sound?

lol sowi im sabotaging this thread!

back to CAI

mmmm im very tempted, n since i have a stock TH bumper, i have some very nice fog light holes to make use of :P

magnagic
07-03-2007, 06:46 PM
just 1 more note briefly on the reonators, you can cap them off. so there will be no sucking, sometimes the caps get sucked through, But im told its better without????? Il get the name of pipe for you and where you can get it 2morrow!:cool:

BiG 4 CyL
07-03-2007, 07:06 PM
[QUOTE=magnagic]this is where i was going to run it.. is it worth doing??QUOTE]

thats where mine goes, works a treat. i can show u pix if u want?

big 4

Lucifer
07-03-2007, 08:20 PM
just 1 more note briefly on the reonators, you can cap them off. so there will be no sucking, sometimes the caps get sucked through, But im told its better without????? Il get the name of pipe for you and where you can get it 2morrow!:cool:
Yeah I heard if you leave them open you get some killer gains :bowrofl: McKormicks spice lids are excellent for this application, a few guys have them on here, including myself.

E-D-E
09-03-2007, 07:56 PM
not sure what it costs! its 100mm pipe it moulds straight in.

hang on, where'd you get the stuff???that pipe looks bendy, not like PVC pipe at all!
ive been lookin around and the only thing thats come close was at autobarn and i refuse to pay 30 bucks for a piece of plastic piping... bunnings dont have it, their stuff aint big enuf... where'd you get it???

Party boy
10-03-2007, 08:01 AM
i dont wanna sound like a bastard guys...but how much more air is gunner flow through?? i just cant see a big gain from this blue pipe..when i got my car.it already had a similar set up. mine however has got the stock intake..but he has put a hole in the bottom of the air box.with pvc down to the road (not out the front). can take pics if you want.id say it would have taken a while to make. but i have about double the air comeing in.and i must say.it doesnt make much differnce to the power of my car. (as i have been down the quarter with it and without it) sorry if thats a bit hard to understand:cry:

Fritz
10-03-2007, 08:14 AM
i dont wanna sound like a bastard guys...but how much more air is gunner flow through?? i just cant see a big gain from this blue pipe..when i got my car.it already had a similar set up. mine however has got the stock intake..but he has put a hole in the bottom of the air box.with pvc down to the road (not out the front). can take pics if you want.id say it would have taken a while to make. but i have about double the air comeing in.and i must say.it doesnt make much differnce to the power of my car. (as i have been down the quarter with it and without it) sorry if thats a bit hard to understand:cry:


Think this is what your meaning? I was reading about this and was going to do the same:
29254

magnagic
10-03-2007, 08:39 AM
Quote:
"Originally Posted by Party boy
i dont wanna sound like a bastard guys...but how much more air is gunner flow through?? i just cant see a big gain from this blue pipe..when i got my car.it already had a similar set up. mine however has got the stock intake..but he has put a hole in the bottom of the air box.with pvc down to the road (not out the front). can take pics if you want.id say it would have taken a while to make. but i have about double the air comeing in.and i must say.it doesnt make much differnce to the power of my car. (as i have been down the quarter with it and without it) sorry if thats a bit hard to understand "


I hear what ya saying mate. thats the setup i wanted aswell. I was only playing around abit, and just wanted to know if it was worth it or not. As i would only have it on when 1/4 days are on its not a big deal realy. how-ever i noticed gains and the air take in is 23% more with the blue pipe alone. So in theory it must be abit better atleast.
I got the pipe from a piping company in hobart. Try places like plumbing and pipe specialist shops.

E-D-E
11-03-2007, 09:23 AM
I got the pipe from a piping company in hobart. Try places like plumbing and pipe specialist shops.

thanks mate, actually wouldnt have thought of that.

Magtone
11-03-2007, 02:43 PM
Quote:
I hear what ya saying mate. thats the setup i wanted aswell. I was only playing around abit, and just wanted to know if it was worth it or not. As i would only have it on when 1/4 days are on its not a big deal realy. how-ever i noticed gains and the air take in is 23% more with the blue pipe alone. So in theory it must be abit better atleast.
I got the pipe from a piping company in hobart. Try places like plumbing and pipe specialist shops.

It definitley sucks more air in. This is what I did. http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37867

magnagic
11-03-2007, 08:02 PM
:eh: :shock: holy crap. I was reading in a post on another thread that some1 dyno'd flexi pipe v's stock snorkle. and gained 7kw :redface: is that real or what???

Nick
12-03-2007, 04:48 AM
:eh: :shock: holy crap. I was reading in a post on another thread that some1 dyno'd flexi pipe v's stock snorkle. and gained 7kw :redface: is that real or what???

dyno's aren't impeccable. a fresh breeze blowing over the car could've netted that.

CAI isn't a dyno reproducible effect either as it makes its gains on the road getting fresher air rather than in a dyno cell where you have a big fan, so anyone who dismisses it is silly but it only works to a degree and getting it right is hard because it has to be real-time, on the road R&D.

magnagic
12-03-2007, 07:41 AM
thnx for the info mate. :cool:

Party boy
12-03-2007, 08:07 AM
Think this is what your meaning? I was reading about this and was going to do the same:
29254



yer mate same idea..but mine has got it comeing from the bottom of the airbox. not the front as ur picture suggests.same thing i guess.dont ask how much time was spent on mine but alot id say.cheers

mozzaldinho
12-03-2007, 07:21 PM
im thinking of putting some flexi pipe from my airbox and attaching it to the hole in my bumper wher the fog light goes...? is this possible, and if so, is there a better/neater way to do it

MagTech
12-03-2007, 07:53 PM
im thinking of putting some flexi pipe from my airbox and attaching it to the hole in my bumper wher the fog light goes...? is this possible, and if so, is there a better/neater way to do it

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Phonic
13-03-2007, 06:06 AM
dyno's aren't impeccable. a fresh breeze blowing over the car could've netted that.



You're right, but I consider anything over a repeatable 4-5kW gain a measurable difference. There was at least another one or two member who have measured similar gains on the dyno. So looks like the factory snorkel is the biggest restriction in the intake.

Nick
13-03-2007, 09:35 AM
You're right, but I consider anything over a repeatable 4-5kW gain a measurable difference. There was at least another one or two member who have measured similar gains on the dyno. So looks like the factory snorkel is the biggest restriction in the intake.

I'm keen to test it if i can get my hands on a K&N pod before the QMD dyno day. I'll give one run with the factory system and 2 with the pod.

Phonic
13-03-2007, 09:49 AM
I'm keen to test it if i can get my hands on a K&N pod before the QMD dyno day. I'll give one run with the factory system and 2 with the pod.

The problem with a pod (unless properly boxed off) is that on a dyno with bonnet up, it's drawing in cooler air then on the road where the bonnet is closed.

Regardless, most people with CAI setups are happy with them (even if it is for appearance or performance..lol)

Disciple
13-03-2007, 09:49 AM
I'm keen to test it if i can get my hands on a K&N pod before the QMD dyno day. I'll give one run with the factory system and 2 with the pod.
You probably won't get a chance. If it's anything like last years, they put your car on then run it 3 times with no pauses.

Nick
13-03-2007, 09:59 AM
You probably won't get a chance. If it's anything like last years, they put your car on then run it 3 times with no pauses.

lame.

BiG 4 CyL
14-03-2007, 05:33 PM
hey all, just made the finishing touches on my CAI today and decided to hijack this thread in the process, lol sorry
there was an inch gap between the piping and the airbox so i decided to finish it buy fully enclosing the pathway. bought some 4 inch dia rubber tubing and sealed it off. no hot air whatsoever now :D
let me know what u think
cheers big 4

Mikeee
14-03-2007, 07:17 PM
The problem with a pod (unless properly boxed off) is that on a dyno with bonnet up, it's drawing in cooler air then on the road where the bonnet is closed.

Yeah I've been wondering about this too. Obviously when your doing a 100km down the highway your getting cold air rushing into your pod filter where as on the dyno that air isn't coming in at 100km/hr, air circulation is totally different at different speeds. And what if it's a scorching hot day say 40deg, doesn't matter how fast your going that air ain't coming in cold. I wonder what sort of difference in power that would actually be if you could measure it on the dyno?

I've spent hours reading about K&N Rampod and Panel Filters in this forum, some stuff going back 3 yrs and with the help of some very 'switched on' members here who I have to say a big thankyou to "you guys are absolutely awsome", I've decided to go with a K&N Panel Filter and a full set of Barry's mods. I'm mainly doing it for the better fuel economy and a more responsive throttle. I'm not really after the power because in reality it's only a small increase but hey I'm happy to take whatever it will give me :P

Magtone
15-03-2007, 05:47 AM
hey all, just made the finishing touches on my CAI today and decided to hijack this thread in the process, lol sorry
there was an inch gap between the piping and the airbox so i decided to finish it buy fully enclosing the pathway. bought some 4 inch dia rubber tubing and sealed it off. no hot air whatsoever now :D
let me know what u think
cheers big 4

Not really that familiar with 2nd gens, but is there a hole in the guard or did you just completely block off any air getting into the airbox:nuts:

BiG 4 CyL
15-03-2007, 07:29 AM
Not really that familiar with 2nd gens, but is there a hole in the guard or did you just completely block off any air getting into the airbox:nuts:

ummm look at the pik :nuts: , theres pvc piping coming up from the road and into the airbox. i just sealed it off with some rubber pipiing yesterday.

Magtone
15-03-2007, 07:45 AM
ummm look at the pik :nuts: , theres pvc piping coming up from the road and into the airbox. i just sealed it off with some rubber pipiing yesterday.


oooK...just wasn't clear to me. thats cool.

magnagirl
15-03-2007, 03:29 PM
If you guys got so many ideas you can come and do my magna up hey:) I need as much help as possible, start cheap work ym way up and i know how to change a tyre:) thats about it unfortunately.:)

Twunka
15-03-2007, 04:16 PM
If you guys got so many ideas you can come and do my magna up hey:) I need as much help as possible, start cheap work ym way up and i know how to change a tyre:) thats about it unfortunately.:)

if u'r a single cute chick then come over to the gold coast and i'll do a bit of body work for ya :D for free too

EDIT: i only mean this as a joke if anyone is offended by my language or behaviour i appoligise in advance

Re-Edit: but if you are hot and single, holla at a boy.

BiG 4 CyL
15-03-2007, 04:23 PM
oooK...just wasn't clear to me. thats cool.
no probs mate :D

Party boy
15-03-2007, 04:45 PM
If you guys got so many ideas you can come and do my magna up hey:) I need as much help as possible, start cheap work ym way up and i know how to change a tyre:) thats about it unfortunately.:)


if you need a hand with some cheap mods that work.dont be afraid to pm me....after all i do have the 2nd fastest N/A magna in QLD:badgrin: many thanks Party Boy

Twunka
15-03-2007, 04:47 PM
if you need a hand with some cheap mods that work.dont be afraid to pm me....after all i do have the 2nd fastest N/A magna in QLD:badgrin: many thanks Party Boy

the 2nd fastest official N/A magna in QLD i must add. :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

Party boy
15-03-2007, 04:54 PM
the 2nd fastest official N/A magna in QLD i must add. :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:


well that too...:bowrofl: no doubt there is faster ones out there...just not on QMC or they just haven't raced...but i like the way it all sounds...hehe

Lucifer
15-03-2007, 07:50 PM
Re-Edit: but if you are hot and single, holla at a boy.
I'm hot, and single... well I can be single anyway, just say the word and she's gone!

Edit: Oh crap you're a GUY!

Edit 2: Well... maybe it'll still work out.