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tbb
03-02-2007, 04:29 PM
I'm trying to find some drawings for the twin-charge system used on vw concept engine, and also a number of the old unlimited rally cars.

It seems the turbo blows through the supercharger, but I'm not too sure on the plubing to prevent over-boost. Ideally the sprintex blower would provide a maximum of 6 psi up to about 4000 rpm, then the turbo(s) would contribute a further 4 to 5 psi out to the redline. Would need fairly low compression ratio for this one, but conceptually should be good for 400 hp+ and 500nm torque.

I wonder if the INVECS tranny would cope with 500nm.

Prepared to blow about 15k on development once my warranty expires.

Objective: low 12s, street sleeper.

bob_saget
03-02-2007, 04:42 PM
honestly dude, do you really see your self doing this?... id just delete this thread before the flaming begins

tbb
03-02-2007, 04:57 PM
50 per cent probability of doing it.

Hae done stranger things - such as shoehorn a 253 into a TX Gemini, Lancia transplant into Lada Niva and buy a Magna.

millert85
03-02-2007, 05:28 PM
really the cash would be better spent on either a twin turbo setup or just a big supercharger. the idea behind twin charging is good, but the practical/feasible aspect is pretty low. they end up over expensive/ under powered for the money/time/engineering involved.

get a big centrifical supercharger and go for ur life...

as for the gb it has been discuss about the limits be4 but i can't remember... some1 will be able to tell u.

Bigs
03-02-2007, 06:22 PM
I had this in mind also once, did some research and found that a 2 speed supercharger will be more efficient, less work and less cash. It will give you a much higher boost at a higher rpm just like a turbo as well as all rpm boost with no lag as well as no ****ty plumbing everywhere. This system can be fitted to a centrifugal type s/c, which is available for the Magna. I would like to see someone do this, $15k would give u enough to prepare the engine for it too.

tbb
03-02-2007, 06:42 PM
I know

Centrifugal blower AND twin screw blower. Interesting to see Lexus convertible in recent performance rag with two superchargers (both screw type).

Bigs
03-02-2007, 06:49 PM
Theres no point of two superchargers, unless you looking to get over 2bar boost(which is not possible on a magna engine)

bob_saget
03-02-2007, 07:22 PM
dont tell me you took an engine out of a lancia delta! that would be blasphemylol

will3690
03-02-2007, 07:52 PM
There is a Toyota Soarer that lives in alb/wodonga that is both turbo and supercharged.

I wasnt impressed when it took until halfway through me being in second to spool up and pull away.

My thoughts, waste of time and money.

GDImante
04-02-2007, 06:46 AM
hmm well it's not really a VW concept engine anymore, cos you can buy the 1.4L Twin Charger Golf GT in NZ now. only a few grand less than a GTi though

andrewd
04-02-2007, 08:00 AM
hmm well it's not really a VW concept engine anymore, cos you can buy the 1.4L Twin Charger Golf GT in NZ now. only a few grand less than a GTi though

what a damn rip off

i'd spend a few $$ more to get the gti, the twin thing is a 1.4L and has a max boost of 25psi

i dont see much room for more performance mods to come from that engine...

on orig topic i know a guy who has a 265 hemi that is s/c and t/c'd about 50K has gone into it and hasnt run yet


better option, rebuild motor and run a **** load of nos through it :badgrin: