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LouisK
05-02-2007, 06:18 PM
Thanks all for your responses previously.

I will start the process of looking for a Ralliart shortly. Got about $17k to spend. But I have some further questions:

Whats a realistic price for one - don't mind it it has around 130k km or so on it.
Any durability issues or weak spots at High KM
How does the auto stand up to abuse? Can it handle constant manual driving?
Whats fuel consumption like?
How much are new front spoilers/splitters worth?
Is tramlining an issue with these
Do they have alot of road noise/suspension noise
Does the exhaust boomey at low revs like the vrxs?

I will test drive one when I find the right car. But answers to the above would give me something to work with. I will coming out of a beautiful and tight KJ Verada so I dont want to sacrifice too much comfort as I love these virtues in my KJ (by the way, if do find the ralliart, there will be a great KJ coming up for sale!!). Plus what concerns me most is that the ralliart will be the shopping hack and family cart so the missues has to drive. so its got be close to the KJ in feel and comfort or I am in trouble.

Would appreciate your responses to the above.

thanks all.

TZABOY
05-02-2007, 06:25 PM
Whats a realistic price for one - don't mind it it has around 130k km or so on it.
anywhere from $16,000 for a crappy one, $20,000+ for a nice one,
Any durability issues or weak spots at High KM
Like any Magna, do your belts and usual services and you see 250,000+ out of an engine
How does the auto stand up to abuse? Can it handle constant manual driving?
Dunno, only own a manual and its all good so far (touch wood)
Whats fuel consumption like?
in auto you'll probably see 11-12km's per 100km's. might get better mileage due to the more torque that a ralliart has over a VRX or exec, but depends where u drive
How much are new front spoilers/splitters worth?
front bars are around the 500 mark, don't know if i got mine cheaper or got ripped but that is about the going price, splitter you can pick up used on here
Is tramlining an issue with these
not with the auto, dont really notice it in the manual and it has an LSD
Do they have alot of road noise/suspension noise
Nothing noticable
Does the exhaust boomey at low revs like the vrxs?
never had a stock exhaust so sorry

hope i kinda helped. Ralliarts are fantastic cars mate so if you get one i highly doubt you'll regret it

ReallyArt
05-02-2007, 06:31 PM
If your happy with the Verada why do you want to get a Ralliart?

Unless of course you want better performance, better handling, better braking and boy racer looks. Anyway, we don't need to convince you, you need to convince your missuslol


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LouisK
05-02-2007, 07:00 PM
Hi ReallyArt

I want the practicality and comfort of verada with the spice and bang of a ralliart.
Best of both worlds?

But the biggest issue for me - do they TRAMLINE especially the autos? This will be the killer for me. Had a SAAB Aero that did this and my wife wouldn't touch it because of that.

Could you please share your experiences re Tramlining. Read an article that said this was the case, but your experiences would be better measure.

thanks

Pete
05-02-2007, 07:17 PM
tramlining i don find this a problem at all, but go drive one will see what you think, i can't imagen it would be much or any different to the verada

TJ Sports
05-02-2007, 07:22 PM
I found tramlining was more to do with tyres - factory pirelli P6000. I switched to bridgestone grid IIIs the problem went away.

gremlin
05-02-2007, 07:25 PM
I found tramlining was more to do with tyres - factory pirelli P6000. I switched to bridgestone grid IIIs the problem went away.

i agree. the factory tyres are a joke.. change them for something better and it changes the car

JET-BLK
05-02-2007, 07:32 PM
I don't think the tyer brands make much diffrence, i believe you need atleast 8 inch of rubber to get the power to the ground.... (especially manuals)
225's and a BIG FWD V6 just doesn't cut it :gtfo:

TJ Sports
05-02-2007, 07:37 PM
I don't think the tyers are the problem, i believe you need atleast 8 inch of rubber to get the power to the ground....
225's and a BIG FWD V6 just don't cut it :gtfo:

were talking abt tramlining, anyway 8" of rubber =203.2 :bowrofl:

JET-BLK
05-02-2007, 07:42 PM
ha ha your right :bowrofl: Well let's say 225 and anything less, 235's work much better :P

Mooney
05-02-2007, 08:03 PM
If you like lane jumping why not. You will get more bang for your buck with a VR-X

gremlin
05-02-2007, 08:25 PM
If you like lane jumping why not. You will get more bang for your buck with a VR-X

$17k for a ralliart or 14k for a vrx... there is tonnes more than $3ks worth of car in the ralliart.. :confused:

i have 225s on my 20s.. i can barely get it to spin in first gear and chirping 2nds is impossible.. with the p6000s on i could barely get grip in 1st or 2nd gear

dark_magician
05-02-2007, 10:16 PM
Is tramlining an issue with these
not with the auto, dont really notice it in the manual and it has an LSD
Do they have alot of road noise/suspension noise
Nothing noticable
Does the exhaust boomey at low revs like the vrxs?
never had a stock exhaust so sorry





i agree , with the exhaust they are quieter compared to vrx

Rall!art
06-02-2007, 02:29 AM
I found tramlining was more to do with tyres - factory pirelli P6000. I switched to bridgestone grid IIIs the problem went away.

now that u've mentioned that...ya...no more tramlining when i've changed from the pirelli to goodyear eagle F1's.

Disciple
06-02-2007, 05:06 AM
If you like lane jumping why not. You will get more bang for your buck with a VR-X
$3k difference in price and for the extra money you're getting let's see; Ralliart specific instrument cluster, Ralliart specific leather steering wheel, Ralliart bucket seats, uprated engine to 180kW, custom stainless steel exhaust system, custom made headers, limited slip differential, bigger twin pot front brakes and bigger single pot rears with fade free pads, Koni red shocks. If I've missed anything, please let me know.

Better bang for buck? Keep dreaming champ.

Tramlining will be a problem in all cars, but it is very minimal in a Ralliart with standard tires. You'll probably find the Ralliarts ride to be a bit firmer than the Verada, but still very comfortable with great handling. The auto box is very good just make sure you keep it looked after. Traction control is standard on the auto's so tire spinning and lost traction won't be a problem. Honestly, you won't find a better value car for the same money in terms of performance, comfort, reliablity, refinement and style.

Like others have said, take one for a test drive and see if you like it. I remember taking mine for a test drive... I was gonna test drive an auto VRX after it, then a WRX and a Ford XR6 but after driving the Ralliart I didn't even bother.

LouisK
06-02-2007, 06:10 AM
Re the Auto in a Ralliart (and Tippys in general), can they handle the abuse and constant manual down changing etc?

thanks
LouisK

wookiee
06-02-2007, 06:34 AM
Re the Auto in a Ralliart (and Tippys in general), can they handle the abuse and constant manual down changing etc?

thanks
LouisK
I don't have a Ralliart, but I *always* drive my car in tippy mode. downshifts, upshifts, it hasn't missed a beat in almost 70,000kms.

cheers,
.wook

manifesto
06-02-2007, 06:52 AM
noob question - wtf is tramlining?

wookiee
06-02-2007, 06:59 AM
noob question - wtf is tramlining?
clicky clicky (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=47)

it's the tendency for the car to follow ruts or uneven parts of the road.

cheers,
.wook

RINGA///ART
06-02-2007, 02:55 PM
all i can point you to is:

Ralliart (http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/MITSUBISHI/RALLIART_MAGNA/details.aspx?Model=RALLIART%20MAGNA&__Nne=20&__N=4294964597+0+4294961424+834+285+257&Make=MITSUBISHI&State=All%20States&silo=1003&state_id=0&distance=25&Cr=2&seot=0&__sid=11084ECA5762&R=881684&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&trecs=11)

price is neg. ;)

Pete
06-02-2007, 04:04 PM
I don't think the tyer brands make much diffrence, i believe you need atleast 8 inch of rubber to get the power to the ground.... (especially manuals)
225's and a BIG FWD V6 just doesn't cut it :gtfo:

225s are not the problem the P6000's are just ****. I think it must be something to do with the shape & grip of the rubber for tramlining

TJ///RALLIART
06-02-2007, 05:16 PM
i recently did a search on ralliarts for sale (ans yes mine is still up for sale in melbourne haha) and even though they have high k's, i couldnt find one below 18g's. but caresales.com have about 12 on there atm.