PDA

View Full Version : POD filter illegal in vic



trancer
15-01-2004, 07:53 AM
If anyone was in doubt, i got 3 independent opinions from vic roads engineers advising these are defect worthy mods (emission standards failure)...

Bain
15-01-2004, 07:54 AM
If anyone was in doubt, i got 3 independent opinions from vic roads engineers advising these are defect worthy mods (emission standards failure)...

Any open air oil filter is defectable.. I thought everyone knew this already.

*small edit* If you have a housing for it, its not defectable..

WhiteDevil
15-01-2004, 08:02 AM
[quote:82d4bb8d84="trancer"]If anyone was in doubt, i got 3 independent opinions from vic roads engineers advising these are defect worthy mods (emission standards failure)...

Any open air oil filter is defectable.. I thought everyone knew this already.

*small edit* If you have a housing for it, its not defectable..[/quote:82d4bb8d84]


But but, what is the point if you house a POD? :?: ? ;) :roll:

you'll need a big intage vent to get enough air for the POD to take benefit from then?

trancer
15-01-2004, 08:19 AM
Any open air oil filter is defectable.. I thought everyone knew this already.

*small edit* If you have a housing for it, its not defectable..

This forum isnt the one giving out defects, so i wanted to hear it for myself from the people that do. RPW sure dont say their kits as sold are illegal unless you modify them

MAGNA
15-01-2004, 08:24 AM
[quote:81241069a4="Bain"]

Any open air oil filter is defectable.. I thought everyone knew this already.

*small edit* If you have a housing for it, its not defectable..

This forum isnt the one giving out defects, so i wanted to hear it for myself from the people that do. RPW sure dont say their kits as sold are illegal unless you modify them[/quote:81241069a4]
From what I've heard PODs are now legal in SA.

Mitsiman
15-01-2004, 08:35 AM
The pod filters we sell are legal for emmissions in the sense that they do not alter the emmissions of the vehicle.

But some states class them as illegal because they aer an oil coated pod.

90% of the time most peope don't have a problem with them but some people do.

2much
15-01-2004, 11:08 AM
i think that i has to do with the cops, but if you do get defected EPA will pass certian pods... they do not need to be enclosed either

http://forums.melbccr.com/uploads/433042-EPA1.jpg

http://forums.melbccr.com/uploads/433043-EPA2.jpg

MAGWGN
15-01-2004, 01:10 PM
that letter completely contradicts your initial statement. it says that oil based pods arent allowed and your pod has to be boxed. ????????

Screamin TE
15-01-2004, 02:44 PM
G'Day people.

Regarding the enclosure of pod filters, why not kill two birds with one stone??
A few people re-locate the battery to the boot, am i right?
Well, how hard would it be to put a 'window' type seal around the lid of the battery box and seal the mutha up, and put your pod on their with a CAI style setup and move the battery to the boot? Just a thought that i pondered while trying to get to sleep. ;)

Madmagna
15-01-2004, 07:31 PM
The letter does not contradict itself,
it states that an oiled filter will not pass, a non oiled filter will pass so long as all sensores are retro fitted.

Nicks is an oiled filter as are the RPW ones thus making them illegal if they are not boxed. Remember EPA is a national body, the various roads departments may approve or dissaprove them but the EPA will still go you.

The reason being is they have this falacy that the oil releases hydrocarbon in to the atmosphere, if it is boxed the hydrocarbon from the oil is then contained and burned.

In reality the pod filter improve fuel efficiency thus lower emmissions.

MAGWGN
15-01-2004, 08:09 PM
i never said the letter contradicts itself. i said 2much contradicts himself on what he said compared to the letter, because he and 90% of all the other guys in here have oil based pod filters.

Madmagna
15-01-2004, 08:29 PM
"but if you do get defected EPA will pass certian pods... they do not need to be enclosed either"

He is saying the EPA will pass certain pods, which they will if they are not oiled pods and as the letter says "non oiled pods do not need enclosing"

He did not mention if most AMC members have oiled pods, he in fact did not even mention anyone's pods in his post. Nick simply made an enquiry to the EPA for himself and then posted it here to be helpful.

MAGWGN
15-01-2004, 08:37 PM
mate i dont want to get into an argument. i just think that all posting it did was show that the huge majority of pod owners in here do have to have them enclosed as they are oil based and i dont know why he bothered writing anything else. especially when they specifically say his isnt allowed.

..GONE..
15-01-2004, 10:53 PM
Shut Up.. Just shut up, shut up.. shut up just shut up SHUT UUPPPPP!
Too much music.. :?

Give it a break!

Oil Based Pods = Illegal unless housed
Non Oil Based Pods = Legal unhoused
Thats basically how its goes..

SuFz :evil:

2much
16-01-2004, 05:55 AM
ok ok ok..... the letter is from someone else.... and is not about me, so i hope that clears things up magwgn...

i just thought it would be helpful to know what the EPA think.....

trancer
16-01-2004, 06:13 AM
Looks like the panel filter is the way to go. Whats the point in 'housing' a POD filter thats designed to be surrounded by free-flowing air...?

MAGWGN
16-01-2004, 12:06 PM
any filter is designed for "free flowing" air. if it wasnt free flowing your car wouldnt go! all pods do is increase the surface area of the filter to allow more air to be sucked through. if you enclose a pod you just gotta make sure your inlet feed is big enough to allow the same amount of air through.

Redav
16-01-2004, 12:14 PM
all pods do is increase the surface area of the filter to allow more air to be sucked through.

But do they really? They increase the area which provides filtering but do they really allow more air in? It's still bottlenecked by the MAF and any induction piping it uses including the base of the filter.

MAGWGN
16-01-2004, 12:27 PM
yeah well thats a good point. then it gets into how much air your car is actually wanting to suck through. i can see this leading to another pod vs panel debate! leave me alone!!! LOL. they obviously gotta do something over standard. i think it could also involve the way the air is travelling into the piping.

heydude
16-01-2004, 04:11 PM
My dry pod filter works great, so mine is legal cause it is dry, but it is a 5 inch simota pod with an mparts adaptor for the mas sensor.

Mitsiman
16-01-2004, 06:34 PM
Really simple - if they ask if the filter is an oil based or dry based tell them its dry based.

If they do give you a sticker, then clean the filter, go over the pits with no oil, then afterwards go and reoil the filter.

whether its dry or wet they won't beleive you anyway and will probably give you a sticker anyway.

Killbilly
16-01-2004, 06:44 PM
That's true..because police only have to suspect to give you a defect notice.

It's up to the Pits to substansiate that claim or dismiss it.