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kewlsolara
15-01-2004, 02:05 PM
Just wondering if i use Mobil 1 ( Full Synthetic) oli in the car will it void the warranty???

Do i have to take the car back to mitsubishi service centre to keep the warranty even for the oil change at 7500.????

fysh
15-01-2004, 02:37 PM
you can take it to places like ultra tune and kmart etc as long as they support warantees just ask them they can tell you and if you want to double check call up you local dealer.

if you just want to change the oil just do it yourself esp if your goin to do it regularly.

buy a manual it has all the instructions.
things you will need
*spanner for sump
*drop container for oil
*oil filter
*oil filter spanner
*5 litres (i would use castrol that mitsu used you can either get it from a dealer or call them up and ask them for the oil type)

for scheduled servicing call around for better prices then call up the mitsu dealer service centre and tell them you want a price drop because XX place has it for cheaper. they will more than likely go 'well ok but we are 10 bucks more expensive because we use genuine parts' i personally pay the extra 10 bucks :)

kewlsolara
15-01-2004, 02:51 PM
thanks mate ,

but at the regular service they also change the oil so if i am using full synthetic oil and

they change it to mitu std oil semi synth or what ever they use , then what will happen with my engine ?????

Manual
15-01-2004, 03:02 PM
thanks mate ,

but at the regular service they also change the oil so if i am using full synthetic oil and

they change it to mitu std oil semi synth or what ever they use , then what will happen with my engine ?????

Just tell them to use a synthetic oil - you don't have to get what they recommend - if you want something different they will get whatever you want

Manual

fysh
15-01-2004, 03:16 PM
its probably just easier to get your own oil and chuck it on the drivers seat when you go in. they will know what you mean.

is there any reason why you want to only use mobil syn , the castrol shit they use is prity good.

EuroAccord13
15-01-2004, 04:01 PM
I always supply my own oil at Mitsu when it's being serviced..

Remember, they stated that they RECOMMEND XXXX oil with XX-XX rating. They did not demand that u use a certain oil so the warranty will still stand.

CHEERS :D

But I won't recommend u use Mobil 1 Asad... not meant for a Magna...

teK--
15-01-2004, 06:33 PM
All factory vehicle warranties in Australia allow you the freedom of choice to service with any accredited workshop and preserve your warranty. The only condition you usually have to meet is to use genuine factory components, correct grade lubricants, and follow the servicing schedule in the owner's handbook. It is illegal for any manufacturer warrant to stipulate that you return to their own retailer network for servicing.

It is only 3rd party warranty policies that usually tie you to a certain network or branch of workshops for servicing, and they can do it legally too.

If I need to use a specific type of fluid for any of my servicing I usually supply it to my mechanic to save him hunting around.

Oh and just another tip, you'll probably find that loyalty to the manufacturer's network of outlets for servicing your car goes a long way for if you have problems outside the warranty period. Trust me, I work on a good 3-4 outside of warranty cases a day, and a full service history with Trusty Bob's Spanner Spinners isn't very impressive.

nigel
16-01-2004, 08:19 AM
What Tek said in his post hit the nail right on the head. Dealers had been getting away with forcing customers to use them for servicing for years or risk voiding their warranties. It all changed a few years ago. I think it was the ACCC that put a stop too it, ruling it anti competitive. Their shoidnt be a problem with using Mobil 1 as they maket a 15w - 50 spec oil. Which according to the handbook is a recommended spec. I personally do not use fully synthetic as I do not think that its really cost effective. More than twice the price of a very good quality mineral base oil. The engine has been designed to run quite well on conventional oil. If price was no object I would probably consider fully synthetic. But honestly I cannot see any gains in performance, economy or engine life by using synthetic oil in a car like a Magna.

Nigel

kewlsolara
16-01-2004, 01:28 PM
okay talk to mitsu dealer today (Northern Mitsu, Preston) , they told me that i can get my car serviced at any place of my choice and can use any type of engine oil i like (including Mobil 1) and it will not affect the mitsu warranty.

BUT

its my responsibility to make sure that original mitsu parts are being used. other wise warranty can be void even using non original oil filter.

The oil they use is semi synthetic Magnatec FPX or some thing like that.



then i asked him how much they charge for minor service i.e at 7,500K's

$155.oo which i think was total rip off.

As for the 30,000K log book service they were charging $185-$195 .

fysh
16-01-2004, 03:19 PM
thats bulshit

my 15000km cost me $108

did you even try to bargain with him did you say "well blah blah charge this and they say they will get the original parts in for me"

call em back you can always go to another dealer as well and ask them

CanberraVR-X
16-01-2004, 06:42 PM
thats bulshit

my 15000km cost me $108

did you even try to bargain with him did you say "well blah blah charge this and they say they will get the original parts in for me"

call em back you can always go to another dealer as well and ask them

Have a look at what they did at 15,000 fysh. I think you will find it was jack shite. No oil change, no nothin. I am about to get my 30,000 done on my tj vrx.

:D

fysh
17-01-2004, 02:01 PM
[quote:7fbb0d31ea="fysh"]thats bulshit

my 15000km cost me $108

did you even try to bargain with him did you say "well blah blah charge this and they say they will get the original parts in for me"

call em back you can always go to another dealer as well and ask them

Have a look at what they did at 15,000 fysh. I think you will find it was jack shite. No oil change, no nothin. I am about to get my 30,000 done on my tj vrx.

:D[/quote:7fbb0d31ea]

they did a full oil change and filter plus a few other things, check timing etc .

i got the 15k done just before chrissy and now im up to 25 grand so 5 or so weeks and ill get another service :roll: and it seems my trans is playing up a bit :(

Arun
17-01-2004, 08:03 PM
I always supply my own oil at Mitsu when it's being serviced..

Remember, they stated that they RECOMMEND XXXX oil with XX-XX rating. They did not demand that u use a certain oil so the warranty will still stand.

CHEERS :D

But I won't recommend u use Mobil 1 Asad... not meant for a Magna...

why not recommend using Mobil1 ?

teK--
17-01-2004, 08:24 PM
The reason why dealership servicing costs so much is because of ongoing training + tool ownership costs, plus fees to hold their brand license. I find it's only worthwhile going back to the dealership when you have a specific problem that generic mechanics can't fix.

EuroAccord13
18-01-2004, 09:29 PM
why not recommend using Mobil1 ?

Mobil 1 is too thin for magna engines :D

nigel
25-01-2004, 06:48 AM
magnav6sports13,

Why is Mobil 1 too thin for magna engines? As i said in a previous post Mobil 1 is marketed with with a viscosity No 15W-50 (AS WELL AS DIFFERENT VISCOSITYS). Which is recommended for the magna. Just because its fully synthetic doesnt mean it will be too thin. Using carbon chemistry, oils can be synthesised to virtually any specific viscosity (thinness or thickness) you require.

Nigel

Madmagna
25-01-2004, 07:57 AM
Sorry Nick , I am with Nigel on this one.
Mobil 1 is ok for Magna's however on the newer ones only.
The older engins showing a bit of wear I use the Penrite or Penziol.

As for service cost, so many out the winge and complain about servicing and labour costs, while some are a bit expensive stop complaining and get a life.

When I was in business the equipment, insurance and general overheads were extremly expensive. Not to mentin training and keeping up to date with new and changed things. And I did not even run a dealershhip!

My wife went to see a doctor a few months ago, was in his room for 3 minutes and walked out with a $175.00 bill!!! Yes he studied at uni for his token 6 years but like all professions there is training to be done. An accountant does not save lives however will charge a lot more than a mechanic. Same goes a lawyer.

If you do not like the price learn how to do it your self of look around for a fair price. I would say $108.00 would be fair for a service as it is more than just dumping oil anc change filter.

EuroAccord13
26-01-2004, 01:57 PM
I thought Mobil 1 Came ONLY in 5-50