First of all, there are many AMC members that have contributed in this thread. All Acknowledgements will be listed in the end. This thread is to help new members with 3rd Generation Magnas such as TE, TF TH and TJ model owners with standard executive lights to convert into the Verada’s KE, KF, KH, KJ or VRX etc. model. A lot of work is involve writting such threads so please support us by giving relevant information should we have mistakes in the write up. Give me a pm to edit the thread so that I can update it without messing up this thread. I hope that the information here will help all new parabolics users to know what is involved before buying them.

To start off, the normal 3rd generation executive lights look like these:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6043/executiveheadlightszj5.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=executiveheadlightszj5.jpg)

The Verada lights or also known as parabolics, look like these:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2317/onepieceparascarht1.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=onepieceparascarht1.jpg)

Or these:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3412/twopieceparabolicsfv5.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twopieceparabolicsfv5.jpg)

Notice that there is also a difference in the pictures as you have the one piece parabolics which look like this:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5268/parabolicsonepieceto0.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=parabolicsonepieceto0.jpg)

Or the two piece parabolic which look like these:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/7402/parabolics2piecesnf3.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=parabolics2piecesnf3.jpg)

The difference is the one piece comes moulded with the indicator attached and looks more stylish. However its lenses is made out of plastic so over wattage bulbs are not recommended (they should not be used anyway IMO) as they may make the lenses yellow due to the excessive heat from the globes. One piece parabolics cost from anything $400-$500.00 from Wreckers, members here in For Sale section or Ebay. Anything below is a good buy. They cost about $475.00 each from Mitsubishi dealers.

The two piece parabolics, on the other hand is made of glass. Even if this is so, I would not recommend over wattage bulbs to be used. The two piece parabolic can use the Executive side indicators with it, if prefered. Cost about $350 - $450.00 approx

If you are leading to think that the Verada’s headlight will give more lighting then you should read the Headlight FAQ (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23184)written by Heathyoung.

These lights are also known as Parabolics and considered stylish looking compared to the standard headlights. Though they look crystal clear they do not project their light as good as the executives. I should not talk more on this as most members would have READ the Headlight FAQ (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23184)and know the reason why the lighting is not as bright etc. This thread focuses strictly on installation of one piece or two piece parabolics.

First of all the Globes for parabolics.

The Low beam is H7

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1301/h7globeur9.th.png (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=h7globeur9.png)

The Highbeam is H1

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7226/h1globebg0.th.png (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=h1globebg0.png)

The parkers for normal Executives and Two piece parabolics (mod) can use T10 H5W (wedge type)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1305/t10w5wxm7.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t10w5wxm7.jpg)

The one piece parabolics parkers use T4W (Pin type)

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9224/t4wfr3.th.png (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t4wfr3.png)

Please REMEMBER the low beam and the high beam globes in the parabolics are held on by a globe holder! Don’t be mislead!

Here is a pic of the lowbeam glob connector and part number.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7643/dsc0379bh2.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0379bh2.jpg)

If you did buy a pair of parabolics without globes then you are required to get the connectors Very Likely!

The parkers are subjective to how you mod in a two piece parabolic as you could use the wedge type or the pin type. For the one piece parabolic, there is no need to mod for their parkers as it is mostly built in and uses the pin type parkers.

Before you attempt this installation you should first understand how to do the following:
1. Parabolic wiring conversion for the low beams. (high beams are left alone!)
2. Installing the parabolic lights.

Parabolic wiring has been the most frequently asked. What’s the BIG DEAL about it?
Well first off the parabolic are using H7 globes which are 2 pin globes, the standard executive uses the 3 pin globes which are H4 type. You will find that the current 3pin connector will be able to attach to the 2 pin globe holder of the parabolics. Turning on your lights will notice that the low beams will not light up but the high beams are ok when you turn them on.

The IDEA is to have both lights on when on Highbeam mode, and only lowbeams with parker when using normal headlights.

The idea here is to cut the PURE RED wire from each side of the connectors which are from your existing Magna, and have it connected (jointed) with additional wiring of your own and ground it to the Magna’s body.


http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5214/wiringxf6.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wiringxf6.jpg)


A closer look at the RED wire we are all referring.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7079/theredwirenj5.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theredwirenj5.jpg)

Some people who do not wish to cut the original wire in their cars can get adaptors or extra plugs to do this. An example of an adaptor is shown below:

In this example for the below adaptors, the red wire leads to the green wire and therefore you cut it and ground it. (this is an example for the adaptors.)

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/996/paraadaptorscm9.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paraadaptorscm9.jpg)

Which ever method you choose, is still the same, you need to cut the pure red wire and ground it from the connector end as explained in the drawing. If you are doing it by the adaptors see where the red wire leads to and cut the wire on the adaptor’s side.

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/6667/wiringdiagramig2.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wiringdiagramig2.jpg)

Do this on both sides of your head lights for the low beams. I suggest that you try one and test first. You can simply use the globe holder from the parabolic with a H7 globe to test it rather than fitting everything and having a hard time on the wiring.

The grounding points for these wires are on the side of the Magna’s body and is attached by a screw:

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/2207/groundingpointsforparabgc2.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=groundingpointsforparabgc2.jpg)

Remove water bottle reservoir and Battery as space is required to find the grounding points. Attached the newly joint wire to the grounding points on each side, and test the lights. Once you have tested the low beams and high beams are working, remove the globe holders and globes and put them back into your parabolics. We be moving to the final step of putting in the lights.

To install the headlights, the two piece parabolics requires you to mod the lights to have parkers in them, as this is a requirement for road use. The professional way requires you to drill and place a grommet pushing the parkers through.

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4741/parat2ed6.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=parat2ed6.jpg)

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/2351/paraylr1.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paraylr1.jpg)

The easy way about this is taking out the metal brackets that holds the parkers, and using a round file to file it till your parkers fit in them. Below shows a picture of where the parkers go. You can remove the bracket and file it down, otherwise it may be tight to fit in.

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1971/paraz3wk0.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paraz3wk0.jpg)

You could do the lazy way by having the parker wiring going through the rubble globe seal if you are afraid of drilling. Obviously this should be done before you fit the lights in. So before you remove your Executive headlights ensure your two piece parabolics is parkers ready. You can cut of the wiring of your parkers and ensure the parking light holder will fit into the parabolic parker holder.

The 2 piece parabolics can be a pain if you are the only person doing it, likewise for single piece parabolics. I recommend having two people on the job makes things easier. The two piece parabolics will fit straight in without having to remove the bumper. However due to the headlight brackets they may give you some difficulty in installing the indicators but they will fit.

Here is a picture of how it goes into the Magna for two piece parabolics.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7335/twopieceparabolicsinstarn1.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twopieceparabolicsinstarn1.jpg)

The one piece parabolics is slightly more difficult as it involves removing the front bumper. Below is a picture that show the removal of the bumper.
Some people are lazy and will just loosen enough to flex the bumper for enough clearence for the one piece parabolics to fit in. Just be careful to put a cloth to prevent scratching your beautiful paint work.

Removal of Bumper in general:

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1169/removebumperav1.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=removebumperav1.jpg)

The one piece parabolics should go straight in without major issues, you need to relax and just find the fitting. In some cases, headlight bracket will be required to be removed in order to fit the lights in.

Enjoy Your parabolics. :cool:

PM me to edit any changes, keep the thread clean

Acknowledgements
Rally Art
Icarian
DVS
Ashneel
Heathyoung

excellent right up man. nice detailed explaination of the whole process. :thumbsup:

Good work Nexus!

Please submit any additions/corrections into this thread and myself or Nexus will edit accordingly.

Great work, now everyone will now PM you instead of me.


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Thanks for this guide, my one piece parras will be arriving any time soon, bit gutted that i have to take the bumper off though

Thanks for this guide, my one piece parras will be arriving any time soon, bit gutted that i have to take the bumper off though

Let me know if you need help, I am in Perth as well.

Forgive the ignorant question, where can you get para's?

Forgive the ignorant question, where can you get para's?


Well you can buy a set from mitsu but your looking at $600+ or just keep an eye out on ebay, wreckers, or if you're lucky someone might post up a set on here.

Good write up nexus, top job mate :thumbsup:

Well you can buy a set from mitsu but your looking at $600+ or just keep an eye out on ebay, wreckers, or if you're lucky someone might post up a set on here.

Good write up nexus, top job mate :thumbsup:

Every time someone here posts up a set in the for sale section no one wants to cough up the money.

Let me know if you need help, I am in Perth as well.

Thanks nexus, appreciate it mate

Thanks for this guide, my one piece parras will be arriving any time soon, bit gutted that i have to take the bumper off though

Irwin, thats a damn sexy TJ to have in the pics...

Hey Mate, Nexus and I actually got my 1 peice paras in without removing the bumper. We did however undo alot of bolts etc and simple flex the bumper a bit to get them in. Ralliart-Akko was saying to me that he also did it this way on his old exec. I think he said he unbolted the metal shweet of the front quater panel and flexed that too. If you want a hand Nexus is the man, I can come give you a hand but he is the one you want for the wiring.

Iriwn, great work mate. I hope people appriciate all the effort you put into it, you should start a Para Installation Company.

Irwin, thats a damn sexy TJ to have in the pics...

Hey Mate, Nexus and I actually got my 1 peice paras in without removing the bumper. We did however undo alot of bolts etc and simple flex the bumper a bit to get them in. Ralliart-Akko was saying to me that he also did it this way on his old exec. I think he said he unbolted the metal shweet of the front quater panel and flexed that too. If you want a hand Nexus is the man, I can come give you a hand but he is the one you want for the wiring.

Iriwn, great work mate. I hope people appriciate all the effort you put into it, you should start a Para Installation Company.

I think installing the bulbs are a problem too if you did not change them when you install them in the first place. Which is why I did the globe chart so that you guys can know what globes to get while waiting for your parabolics from the post to arrive. lol

I think installing the bulbs are a problem too if you did not change them when you install them in the first place. Which is why I did the globe chart so that you guys can know what globes to get while waiting for your parabolics from the post to arrive. lol

Thats a good point, the globes are a pain in the **** to get in when the head lights are installed in the car. Definatly look at fitting new globes before you install the paras

what kind of indicator globes do the one peice and two peice use. amber or clear with a amber lens?

what kind of indicator globes do the one peice and two peice use. amber or clear with a amber lens?

My 1 peice ones use the stock indicator globes...

First of all the Globes for parabolics.

The Low beam is H7

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1301/h7globeur9.th.png (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=h7globeur9.png)

The Highbeam is H1

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7226/h1globebg0.th.png (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=h1globebg0.png)



the only h1 globes i can find are 55w and 100w. as they are supposed to be high beam would you go for the 100w or will that damage the lens?

Well ive just fitted my one piece (minus the modding the wire thing) i didnt remove any of the bumper, they just went straight in with a little wiggling around, my low beams work but my high beams dont lol , they only work when on full beam lol

the only h1 globes i can find are 55w and 100w. as they are supposed to be high beam would you go for the 100w or will that damage the lens?

Nick I suggest you to use standard voltage bulbs or either will happen:

1. Your lense turns yellow
2. Your globe holder may melt.

pm me directly Nick since you are in Perth anyway.

Ok dumb question time:
I am installing one piece paras, so all i have to do is ground the red wire (with the end that connects to the plug) and that's it?, i plug it in and it all works? Or have a i missed something?
Also what are the max wattages you would put in parkers, low and high beam? I'm looking at getting some of the phillips globes, but not sure on how bright i can go?

with the one piece because its got a plastic gace be carefull with the type of globes you use coz having high wattage lgobe will either melt the plastic or turn it yellow

with the one piece because its got a plastic gace be carefull with the type of globes you use coz having high wattage lgobe will either melt the plastic or turn it yellow

Yeap I have seen Narva 50Plus made paras yellow. I believe vison plus by philips are pretty ok.

Two piece paras is glass but doesnt mean you should use high voltage bulbs. I use diamond visions and it is ok for 1 1/2 years so far, no yellowing.

Refer this thread too...

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23184

Yeh after nexus's advice and reading heath's thread i'm going with the vision plus :).

I was told and proven that Narva Plus 50 will turn your one piece yellow. Philips seems to be really ok Have used them for more than a year with my paras and they never gave any issues.

I have been asked several times.

How come my H7 cant fit directly to my Executive Connectors? Dont they Fit?

Answer: NO.

But you say use H7?

Answer: YES.

They use the globe holder that is supplied with your parabolics. If you bought your parabolics without globes chances are you do not have the globe holders.

What are these globe holders/Sockets?

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5881/dsc0381gn0.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0381gn0.jpg)

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7643/dsc0379bh2.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0379bh2.jpg)

I hope this settles it.

Thankyou.

When i did mine, the low beam plug was 90 degrees rotated around to my exec headlights. I put the red/grounded wire at the bottom and the other 2 at the top and it still works fine. Is that what you're referring to?

lol I am referring to the pic. See the Black thingy that the bulb goes into?

Hell too many people have gotten their lights and just bought their bulbs thinking it will fit straight into the H4 executive connector which you have to cut the wire.

The bulbs do not fit stright in, you need the connector which is likely in the parabolics with the current globes in them. Some people will just throw the old bulbs not knowing that the holder is with the bulb.

I have WARNED you guys in the write up and this is what I am referring to, same goes for your H1 bulbs, they are attached to a globe holder! so dont be mislead that they are different in sizes.

Cheers!

Oh yup i see what you mean now, i would have figured that out anyway when i went to try to put the new bulbs in lol.
So what i said about the holder being 90 degrees from the orginal ones, is that correct?

Oh yup i see what you mean now, i would have figured that out anyway when i went to try to put the new bulbs in lol.
So what i said about the holder being 90 degrees from the orginal ones, is that correct?

hehehe, as long as it fits. I had issues that the globes were not easy to fit in! So do it best when you have sorted the wiring and testing with the holder or socket and then install into you paras save you heaps figuring with little access.

Really helpful just been ripping my hair out for the past hour trying to fit paras (without removing bumper) and figure out why no low beams. Thanks heaps.

Also, where can you buy globe holders from i need one

Is there any possibilty of getting this thread stickied?

Is there any possibilty of getting this thread stickied?
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45652

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45652
Whoops... :redface:

It wasn't mentioned at the beginning of this thread so I thought I'd put it in.Early TJ series 1 sports and VRX also had the glass parabolics with the parkers in them.Would be fairly rare though.

Hey,I did one piece parras into a TE last w/e and found if you remove the 3 bolts
on the top of the mudguard & lift the front corner about 20 mm you can fit the
lights in without much effort. put a rag over bumper to protect paint but.
Cheers

Hey Guys, installed Reup Gangs Paras today. One problem, the high beams won't turn off.

We have left the original wiring on high and low beams alone completely. To connect the low beams Jesse had the looms/connectors from the car that the paras came out off. So we used some blade male terminals to connect the VRX loom to original loom the and ring terminals to ground it.

I'll post a pic of the wiring up soon but until then any suggestions will be appriciated.

Thanks

Here is that pic

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p165/Icarian_Album/Misc/Random/Loomdiagram.jpg

You can see the 2 wires coming from the VRX loom into the exec loom and I pointed out the grounding wire, vrx and exec looms.

We tried different combinations with the wires to see if we had the wires in the wrong spots but didn't seem to make much diffence? Could it be the fact the 2 looms somehow don't work together? I don't see why they would but its an idea.

**EDIT**

Looking at the picture below I think I may see the problem.
http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wiringxf6.jpg

Would i be correct in saying we earthed the wrong side of the red wire? What we did was run the earth wire from the original Loom. Should we have earthed it from the VRX loom?

All fixed and working properly. We had to remove the VRX looms though, we popped them open and there was not a third terminal to connect the grounding wire to. We ended up cutting the original wiring and ground that,

**NOTE**

Don;t try and use VRX or Ralliart Looms.

confused, I installed my paras and did it exactly like the drawing, and they dont turn on at all??? If I ground one side of the plug and wire in the low beam wire then they work, but if I turn on the highbeam then the low beam turns off. Is this correct?

Also if I join the highbeam and lowbeam wiring together then nothing happens at all, no power what so ever according to the test light.

I think I might have to install a relay to the lowbeam and highbeam wire so they put power through on the one line where it meets the plug/

and suggestions on this?

confused, I installed my paras and did it exactly like the drawing, and they dont turn on at all??? If I ground one side of the plug and wire in the low beam wire then they work, but if I turn on the highbeam then the low beam turns off. Is this correct?

Also if I join the highbeam and lowbeam wiring together then nothing happens at all, no power what so ever according to the test light.

I think I might have to install a relay to the lowbeam and highbeam wire so they put power through on the one line where it meets the plug/

and suggestions on this?
Wtf are you doing?

You only need to cut one wire on the low-beam harness on the bulb side, ground it and it will work. Terminate the wiring loom side wire with some electrical tape.

Don't join the high-beam and low-beam wires together :nuts:

Wtf are you doing?

You only need to cut one wire on the low-beam harness on the bulb side, ground it and it will work. Terminate the wiring loom side wire with some electrical tape.

Don't join the high-beam and low-beam wires together :nuts:

hey mate I did do this but it aint working!

hey mate I did do this but it aint working!
Take a photo for us mate :)

far out, pushy eh? lol

alright, hoping to pull them out this week, will take uber shots then.

What's the wattage of the standard globes? Need to find brighter output ones to combat the pissweak low beam of the 1 piece parabolics, and if higher rated globes are a no-no, might have to look into driving lights.

far out, pushy eh? lol

alright, hoping to pull them out this week, will take uber shots then.


aren't you the one that wants help with it? :nuts:

Doesn't matter, was 7 weeks ago, likely forgotten about it.

Just some general info. ih8hsv and I managed to install 1-peice parabolics in my TH without removing any bumper-related bolts or the front bumper, simply push down on the front bumper enough that it will allow you to slide them in.

Of course, I take no responsibility for any damage that may occur doing it this way.

Can HID's be used with these?

Can HID's be used with these?

I'm running 55w 10,000K HID's, they are a bitch to get in and stay sealed though

Just when I thought it was just a slap in job and plug in oh well easy fix :D

I just had an idea but i thought I would ask here before I do it instead of cutting the factory wire why nit get a make terminal plug that into the factory plug with black wire of course and then earth that to the body would this not be easier and cleaner to do ? or is there a reason why it must be cut ?

There is no need to cut the plug.

You can use an earth from one terminal to the factory earth under the fuse box and behind the washer bottle, the other side use a good quality spade terminal to the plug for the head lights

There is no need to cut the plug.

You can use an earth from one terminal to the factory earth under the fuse box and behind the washer bottle, the other side use a good quality spade terminal to the plug for the head lights

Pretty much what I was talking about but with the added bounes of using the earth under the fuse box and washer bottle. :D

Yeah, cheers fellas. Wired the Mrs' car up on Saturday in two hours start to finish. Look brilliant and about 10x better than the old worn out exec lights.

damn, my paras went in so easy, no bumper removal or anything.

Having a hassle removing them tho, took the front and top bolts out, cant remember if there are any others and the pics here arent opening.

Might have to remove the bumper to get them out, as I have sold them and need to remove asap.

So, is there any other botls/nuts/screws besides the obvious external ones?

theres a bolt behind the front guard that holds the parras in. you can see it from under the car and if its like mine it should be a gold looking bolt.

if you have 2 piece paras then u could access that bolt if u remove the indicator..

also remember theres that little tab thing that you have to pull fairly hard to click out next to the front bolt

I found that there are 2 wattage output types of H7 globe. Which is used here; the 55w or the 100w?

whoops deleted

Forgive the ignorant question, where can you get para's?

I was lucky. Got a pair of as-new ones, which also came with the driving lights for $250

question : Both My h7 Globes have gone , just got replacements yesterday, which is the eastist way to put the new globes in i know you have to take that battery cover and water bottle out , but after that can you use pull them or do you have to take a screw out?, Thanks

ps -sorry for the grammar

When you gain access to the area, its quite straight forward.

- Unplug the harness
- Unlock the screw lock
- You will then have a rubber cap/seal, pull that back
- Unclip the globe lock using the push and up technique.
- Grab the bulb adaptor and pull the globe out slowly.
- REPLACE BULB and follow these steps backwards.

SuFz :ninja:

Ok dumb question time:
I am installing one piece paras, so all i have to do is ground the red wire (with the end that connects to the plug) and that's it?, i plug it in and it all works? Or have a i missed something?

I would like to re-ask this question because I can't find where someone has answered it properly. Will be installing mine on the weekend, if I don't get time before.

I would like to re-ask this question because I can't find where someone has answered it properly. Will be installing mine on the weekend, if I don't get time before.

Yes..

You only ground one wire on each headlight PLUG, grounding this wire will allow them to function normally.

Yes..

You only ground one wire on each headlight PLUG, grounding this wire will allow them to function normally.

Ok so I cut the red wire on each plug, earth out the wire that is on the plug side and tape up the other end? (Wire on the loom side). If so, that doesn't seem so bad.

Exactly, so two wires from the connector will will still go to the factory loom, but the third wire from the connector will be grounded somewhere.

Exactly, so two wires from the connector will will still go to the factory loom, but the third wire from the connector will be grounded somewhere.

Thanks very much mate, worked perfect. I stupidly cut the wrong wire on one of the headlights and was wondering why I couldn't get it to work. But once I figured that out it was all good.

Do KE/KF/KH one piece paras fit into a TJ magna? It's probably a stupid question.

Do KE/KF/KH one piece paras fit into a TJ magna? It's probably a stupid question.

KE/KF/KH are 2 piece paras, and yes both 1 & 2 piece paras fit a TJ magna.

Hey just put the pure red work to the ground and the high beam come on ??

Thumbs up to this thread.