McEniry also revealed the locally-developed TMR380 is likely to be confirmed for production within one month. Pricing is expected to be pitched in the mid $40K bracket for the full-house supercharged version.

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/MiniSite/MiniSiteArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=36564&vf=28&MiniSiteID=4

On a side note - I love that lancer sports concept car!!

It's great to see they are planning a Ralliart Lancer version with turbo and AWD as part of the new range.

This is a really significant change for MMAL. At last they are getting serious about developing performance models within the model range instead of a separate Ralliart brand.

If only they had done the same for the 380 when planning its release. Oh well.

Looks like my next car might be a Mitsubishi after all. lol

Approved with in a month... sounds good.

Full house version WITH supercharger for mid $40k's ?? If that is the case I highly highly doubt that they will keep the 380GT in the range (or at $44,990).

The Lancer sportback looks like it would make a serious dent in Corolla sales.

Looks like this is going to be a good year for MMC and MMAL and is likely to improve as more people look at the new products and the sportback is released.

man that lancer looks HOT!!!

that's good for the tmr 380, they look good,

that lancer does nothing for me its looks just plain weird

The Lancer looks like a angry shark, very cool. :cool:

Full house version WITH supercharger for mid $40k's ?? If that is the case I highly highly doubt that they will keep the 380GT in the range (or at $44,990).
Yeah price is very good, better than I expected. And it probably will replace the GT, but what a replacement!

Yeah price is very good, better than I expected. And it probably will replace the GT, but what a replacement!

Yeah exactly. So atleast now the TMR 380 will actually be the proper halo for the range and the ultimate combination of sports & luxury.

Seriously, if the TMR comes s'charged, with full body kit, 18 or 19" rims, brake upgrades, recardo seating with full leather trim I can't beleive how much of a bargain it is for mid $40k's. Seriously, that is sooooooo much of a good car for good money.

Seem's as though it is now going to be released toward the end of the year that should mean that the TMR380 will have all the upgrades that comes around in May - July when SIII is released. So there might be a few styling changes and updated interior and hopefully more features (i.e. curtain a/bags + ESP).

Yeah exactly. So atleast now the TMR 380 will actually be the proper halo for the range and the ultimate combination of sports & luxury.

Seriously, if the TMR comes s'charged, with full body kit, 18 or 19" rims, brake upgrades, recardo seating with full leather trim I can't beleive how much of a bargain it is for mid $40k's. Seriously, that is sooooooo much of a good car for good money.

Seem's as though it is now going to be released toward the end of the year that should mean that the TMR380 will have all the upgrades that comes around in May - July when SIII is released. So there might be a few styling changes and updated interior and hopefully more features (i.e. curtain a/bags + ESP).

Recardo seats?

Anyway, they probably won't get rid of the GT as its in a different market. Holden did not
get rid of the Calais and Statemans etc just because HSV released clubsports and Grange.

Recardo seats?

Anyway, they probably won't get rid of the GT as its in a different market. Holden did not
get rid of the Calais and Statemans etc just because HSV released clubsports and Grange.

Sorry I meant Recaro :) Hahahaha... i sounds like such a dumbass :bowrofl:

With Holden and their models you mentioned, also notice the price difference between say a Statesman/Caprice and a Grange or a Calais (and a Senator would be equiv. I think).

According to this latest article the TMR380 will only be mid $40k's which is around the same as the 380GT.

Sorry I meant Recaro :) Hahahaha... i sounds like such a dumbass :bowrofl:

With Holden and their models you mentioned, also notice the price difference between say a Statesman/Caprice and a Grange or a Calais (and a Senator would be equiv. I think).

According to this latest article the TMR380 will only be mid $40k's which is around the same as the 380GT.

I was comparing the clubsports which is commodore based with a calais because the
TMR380 is ES based and won't have all the luxury features of a GT.

I was comparing the clubsports which is commodore based with a calais because the
TMR380 is ES based and won't have all the luxury features of a GT.

Have a read of this...

http://yahoo.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleId=36667

Rob McEniry says that the TMR380's are going to be the models up from the VRX...so no more 380GT. Based on this, there's no way the TMR380 would be based on the ES.

Have a read of this...

http://yahoo.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleId=36667

Rob McEniry says that the TMR380's are going to be the models up from the VRX...so no more 380GT
I read it as the TMR being the extension of the Sports (VRX) line, and the GT keeping it's place Verada GTVi style.

mid 40s the car will sell... thats brillant!
i'd buy one for 45k

I read it as the TMR being the extension of the Sports (VRX) line, and the GT keeping it's place Verada GTVi style.

You're probably right, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

On a side note, in the article Rob McEniry says that the SIII 380VRX is getting the TMR bodykit :cool:

On a side note, in the article Rob McEniry says that the SIII 380VRX is getting the TMR bodykit :cool:

The VRX is gonna look fantastic then. And by doing this it also kind-of eliminates the need for a dressed up TMR with no s'charger. This will also stop Wheels complaining about the thinking it doesn't look sporty.

Hopefully then the VRX comes with normal tail lights (ala TMR380) included with the bodykit!

Hopefully then the VRX comes with normal tail lights (ala TMR380) included with the bodykit!

Now come on...the VRX/GT tail-lights are so much better/stylish...

Have a read of this...

http://yahoo.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleId=36667

Rob McEniry says that the TMR380's are going to be the models up from the VRX...so no more 380GT. Based on this, there's no way the TMR380 would be based on the ES.

I got my info from the first few reports of it. Hence the ES taillight istead of the VRX/GT
taillights. The features won't match that of the GT. The GT is aimed at 40+ executives
whereas the TMR380 is aimed at -40 punks. :D

I got my info from the first few reports of it. Hence the ES taillight istead of the VRX/GT taillights. The features won't match that of the GT. The GT is aimed at 40+ executives
whereas the TMR380 is aimed at -40 punks.

Well that's not such a bad thing but they better reduce the 380GT by a $1k-$2k and add some more equipment.

Geez if the TMR380 is mid 40's as said in that article it should sell very well, but, at the same time they can't be making much on it to sell it for that price.

The supercharged version of the TMR 380 is intended to "REPLACE" the 380 GT as the flagship/"hero" car in the line-up. Now that doesn't necessarily mean the GT will be deleted, but for two important points:

1) With (possibly) the exception of bluetooth/reverse sensors and aesthetic features, the TMR 380 will pretty much be top of the range, keeping in mind it (possibly) will come standard with Recaro seats, all the mechanical upgrades, sat nav and DVD player, which 380 GT lacks.

2) The non-supercharged TMR 380 will more likely be the spec-for-spec, price-for-price replacement for the current 380GT. There is also room for the possibility that the stock/dresser TMR 380 could well be officially badged the "380 GT180" and the s'charged version the "380 GT230" - especially if MMAL get their way and develop it at Tonsley Park, instead of Dandenong here in Vic.

Official naming of the TMR 380 models are yet to be decided, but a can state for the record that the above scenario is one option being heavily considered, as well as logically leaving it as the "TMR 380".

... There is also room for the possibility that the stock/dresser TMR 380 could well be officially badged the "380 GT180" and the s'charged version the "380 GT230" - especially if MMAL get their way and develop it at Tonsley Park, instead of Dandenong here in Vic.

Thanks for the info :)

That wouldn't be such a bad thing (the naming). And if they do that then I take it that the engine output on the lower spec model, and possibly the VRX would be upgraded to 180kW.

- especially if MMAL get their way and develop it at Tonsley Park, instead of Dandenong here in Vic.


MMAL dont want to develop it at Tonsley Park. They dont have the budget or the people to develop anything anymore. Hence why TMR are doing it.

Ralliart models are currently prepared in Dandenong by Alan Heaphy, who has previously run Mitsubishi’s rally program and who also built the 380 Ralliart show car.

As part of its plan, Mitsubishi is looking at having Ralliart preparation work done at Tonsley Park. It is currently considering doing the work itself, but is also talking to interested third parties that could do the modifications on-site in the same way Prodrive will modify TRD cars at Toyota’s Altona plant.

Mitsubishi sources have confirmed Prodrive is one of the operations in discussions with Mitsubishi. When contacted by GoAuto this week, Prodrive’s Asia-Pacific general manager Bryan Mears declined to comment.

"Whether we set up our own workshop …or whether we outsource it, that is really what we are going through at the moment," said Mitsubishi Motors Australia president Robert McEniry. "You could take some of it in-house, but we are just working through the logistics of that at the moment."


http://www.redbook.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story/D337F878E4482D6ACA2572970002D13F?OpenDocument&Highlight=2,380

MMAL dont want to develop it at Tonsley Park. They dont have the budget or the people to develop anything anymore. Hence why TMR are doing it.
Sorry didn't word it properly. I meant having a TMR base in Tonsley Park (or ProDrive etc as Diamante81 pointed out). In other words, TMR developing the car right where it's built, which would make live easier for both parties.

Sorry didn't word it properly. I meant having a TMR base in Tonsley Park

Well we have plenty of spare room for them to set up here...........they can start with my desk....

YAY! :) More jobs at Tonsley Park :)

If they do it price mid 40s then this will sell and you're getting a lot for your money. If they start heading up to high 40s early 50s then they will struggle. It's a really competitive market the $35k - 55K sports car range, there is so much more choice than there was 10, even 5 years ago. And although previously I've bagged it for being FWD, you look at all the hot hatches and other sports cars like the TT they are FWD so maybe that won't be such a bad thing.

They need to have a Verada style model however to appeal to people like my Grandad! So I would have thought it would make sense to get rid of the VRX keep the GT and lower it's price. That would leave them with two lower end models, a luxury model and a sports model. That would be perfect and in line with what a lot of other companies are doing.

nah, they should just make the tmr the vrx, and they should give the gt the same engine, not the same suspension setup etc,

sort of like the way you can have the ss v8 in the caprice, but it doesn't have the same suspension ( although it needs it, as well as bigger brakes that don't heat up). but i keep forgetting they don't have a budget that allows that

I hope they dont make it the GT180, remindes me of the Peugeot 206 GTI 180 (180hp) and that's been round for a while

any more news of when this car is going to show the rwds how the fwd's do it ( when its released)

McEniry told carpoint that it is going to be approved (or not!) in 2 weeks

http://carpoint.com.au/car-review/2468662.aspx


carpoint says...
>> On 2007 plans…
According to chairman Rob the rest of 2007 looks as follows:

Triton 2.4 4x2 petrol -- April
Triton 4x4 3.2 CDI automatic transmission -- third quarter
380 Series III -- third quarter
All-new Lancer -- third quarter
All-new EVO -- "to follow shortly after"
Pajero updates -- fourth quarter
Outlander updates -- fourth quarter
Triton 4x2 Diesel -- fourth quarter
>> On a go-fast 380...
McEniry has confirmed that Mitsubishi is "two weeks away" from making a decision on a high-performance variuant of the 380.

The company displayed the Team Mitsubishi Ralliart (TMR) 380 at both the Sydney and Melbourne motor shows and internally, at least, support for a productionised version is very strong. Officially, pricing and ADR compliance issues are still being finalised and as such some of the high cost features on the showcar may not reach final production.

McEniry told carpoint that it is going to be approved (or not!) in 2 weeks

http://carpoint.com.au/car-review/2468662.aspx

The current motor magazine says Mitsubishi is trying to finalise an Electronic Stability Control for the TMR380 as 230 kW via front wheels will cause some wheel spin. The ralliart colt has ESC and it’s channelling all the power via front wheels.

The current motor magazine says Mitsubishi is trying to finalise an Electronic Stability Control for the TMR380 as 230 kW via front wheels will cause some wheel spin. The ralliart colt has ESC and it’s channelling all the power via front wheels.

I take it this is probably correct, too. As I spoke to a guy at the Adelaide Motor Show who told me that ESC is going to be available on S3 380's.

It's rumoured to have DSC aswell.

It's rumoured to have DSC aswell.

I think DSC & ESC is the same thing, probably the DSC on the Pajero might be more expensive than the ESC on the Ralliart Colt. If the 380 S3 gets ESC, the appeal for the 380 will increase & could increase sales. Will the 380 S3 get curtain air bags? It looks like the 380 S3 might not get the Mivec 3.8L V6 Engine. In general Mivec engines are more powerful and economical.

I think DSC & ESC is the same thing, probably the DSC on the Pajero might be more expensive than the ESC on the Ralliart Colt. If the 380 S3 gets ESC, the appeal for the 380 will increase & could increase sales. Will the 380 S3 get curtain air bags? It looks like the 380 S3 might not get the Mivec 3.8L V6 Engine. In general Mivec engines are more powerful and economical.

Yeah, I think DSC and ESC are essentially the same thing. I am not sure about curtain airbags, but I assume it will given the fact that the American Galant, which our 380 is based on, now has standard curtain airbags since its latest update (for the '07 model, now has a 5 star safety rating). If our 380 gets ESC & Curtain Airbags our 380 will be ahead of the Galant in terms of safety and should appeal to more buyers.

Curtain airbags, ESC (or DSC, whatever you want to call it), exterior styling changes, new mags, an updated interior..... what would not be to like on the S3 380?

I think DSC & ESC is the same thing, probably the DSC on the Pajero might be more expensive than the ESC on the Ralliart Colt. If the 380 S3 gets ESC, the appeal for the 380 will increase & could increase sales. Will the 380 S3 get curtain air bags? It looks like the 380 S3 might not get the Mivec 3.8L V6 Engine. In general Mivec engines are more powerful and economical.

DSC means dynamic stability control.

ESC means electronic stability control. They both do the same thing.

Holden uses ESC on the commodore and ford use DSC on the falcon (standard on the XR6T, XR8 and Ghia, optional on the other falcon sedan models. Strangely FPV dont have DSC on any of there models.)

saw this beast at the perth motor show...damn its sexy :D loved the whole thing

How many people are likely to buy the thing though ?

Its cool having it there to dream about :D , but how many potential sales are there ?

How many people are likely to buy the thing though ?

Its cool having it there to dream about :D , but how many potential sales are there ?

Number of the 380 TMR’s sold will depend on Mitsu pricing it slightly below the Falcon XR6T, getting handling issues sorted with ESC, curtain air bags & having enough ground clearance. The Magna raliart didn’t have enough ground clearance. I wouldn’t expect not more than 500 units a year.

If Mitsu gets it right with the 380 TMR, this could improve the image of 380 as a whole.

Number of the 380 TMR’s sold will depend on Mitsu pricing it slightly below the Falcon XR6T, getting handling issues sorted with ESC, curtain air bags & having enough ground clearance. The Magna raliart didn’t have enough ground clearance. I wouldn’t expect not more than 500 units a year.

If Mitsu gets it right with the 380 TMR, this could improve the image of 380 as a whole.


Ground clearance?????
Didn't know this was a priority with a sports orientated car.....didn't know many people took them off roading:)
The Magna ralliart had more then enough clearance, some would say too much.
It used basically the same springs as a vrx/magna sport. Was just the lower front spoiler that could sometimes hit, but this was removed on most anyway!!
Agree it needs atleast curtain airbags and esc to bring it into line with its competition, but this is for the whole 380 range...

Ground clearance?????
Didn't know this was a priority with a sports orientated car.....didn't know many people took them off roading:)
The Magna ralliart had more then enough clearance, some would say too much.
It used basically the same springs as a vrx/magna sport. Was just the lower front spoiler that could sometimes hit, but this was removed on most anyway!!
Agree it needs atleast curtain airbags and esc to bring it into line with its competition, but this is for the whole 380 range...

Yes I was referring to the Raliart Magna front spoiler, which would have got damaged on most driveways, Mitsu should make the 380 TMR easy to live with as a day to day drive. The whole 380 range requires the curtain airbags, ESC, & may be Mivec 3.8L V6 in top end models. Also may be a 4cyl 380 with the new Outlander drive train. All this could improve 380 sales. Could even over take the Aurion sales.

Does anyone else dig that bonnet on the 380 TMR.
I want one on my standard 380.

Hopefully they launch the vehicle, then I can buy one seperatley and have it installed.

....I wonder how much that would cost? :)

Does anyone else dig that bonnet on the 380 TMR.
I want one on my standard 380.

Hopefully they launch the vehicle, then I can buy one seperatley and have it installed.

....I wonder how much that would cost? :)
Just go to Rare Spares and ask for a set of XA GT teardrop vents. Thats all they are anyway lol. Very retro.

Just go to Rare Spares and ask for a set of XA GT teardrop vents. Thats all they are anyway lol. Very retro.


they are?
http://www.aus-ford-uk.co.uk/assets/images/Falcon-GT3515.jpg

they are?
http://www.aus-ford-uk.co.uk/assets/images/Falcon-GT3515.jpg

Thats a picture of a XB coupe not a XA, william.


Here are some pics of a XA GT coupe and sedan:

Thanks for clearing that up for Asylum Jason.:D

damn google image search! thats much better :D

just found some info off google on specs of tmr380 sorry if its been posted before
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/mitssite/jsp/pages/company/press/press_release_1.jsp?newsId=332

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/mitssite/jsp/pages/company/press/press_release_1.jsp?newsId=331

i ended up having to use google cached to read these