View Full Version : anyone fitted an air/fuel ratio guage?
Just wondering how you went about it - and what its accurancy was like? (if you compared it to a lambda sensor or anything?)
It would have been wired up to the o2 sensors signal - where did you get the feed from? Near the ECU?
Kim
cthulhu
17-03-2007, 09:08 AM
I've wired one up on a 3rd gen and I took the feed from the plug near where the line comes up through the floor from the sensor itself.
Haven't ever been able to test the accuracy against a wide-band meter. :(
[TUFFTR]
30-04-2007, 05:22 PM
Small thread mine, but yes, am doing this very soon, Should i just follow the oxy sensor wire and take feed from that or should i get it from the ECU??
']Small thread mine, but yes, am doing this very soon, Should i just follow the oxy sensor wire and take feed from that or should i get it from the ECU??
I think that depends on where you're mounting it.
I've done it and it's a Autometer carbon series in my glovebox for whenever I get curious.. Too much money at the time of purchase and too much time at the install.. narrow-band o2=crap wideband=realthing.
If you want something that will actually be ACCURATE, try the Zeitronix o2, it's VERY cost effective and talking to a few people who recommend it, i won't mention non_turbo_bmw (turbo_charade) but he has one. Although o2 have to be calibrated so they are never 100% accurate (for those who want to tune via AFR).
Good advice: get wide-band, they're more accurate, narrow-band are a bit... eh... plus the way the narrow-band works is it sends signals of 0 to 1 volts to the ECU which means the gauge show's the AFR as constantly sweeping when in closed-loop (Idle or low throttle). When the car is in open-loop (putting the power down) the o2 sensor is mostly ignored anyway.
SO IN SUMMARY - Narrow-band o2 gauge = bling.
/endof.
[TUFFTR]
30-04-2007, 06:49 PM
I get what you mean but i have NO IDEA if mines a narrow or a wideband.
There Dr/ft ignite series ones from autobarn...
Did a bit of goggling and got nothing on them, might pop in tomorrow and double check with em cause i lost the box
cthulhu
01-05-2007, 02:05 AM
']I get what you mean but i have NO IDEA if mines a narrow or a wideband.
There Dr/ft ignite series ones from autobarn...
Did a bit of goggling and got nothing on them, might pop in tomorrow and double check with em cause i lost the box
If what you bought was a gauge, and it didn't cost you over $200 then it'll be for a narrow band sensor, which is handy, cos that's what your car's got, so hook it up to the sensor wire from your current o2 sensor.
Also, disagree with the comment "Narrow-band o2 gauge = bling". Narrow-band o2 sensor + gauge is handy to see if things have gone wrong. It's no good as a tuning tool, but you'll be able to see if you're in the ball-park.
[TUFFTR]
01-05-2007, 08:26 AM
i obviously dont know what half of these terms mean but thanks for the clarification..
So if i just trace the o2 wire from my oxy sensor and just tap into that im right ey?
']i obviously dont know what half of these terms mean but thanks for the clarification..
So if i just trace the o2 wire from my oxy sensor and just tap into that im right ey?
Yes.
Alright, your o2 sensor is a narrowband, like all magnas, some cars came with wideband which are more accurate - but can be inaccurate - like anything, things go wrong or they're calibrated wrong. Wideband o2, are used with dyno's (The thing they stick in the muffler).
Narrowband o2 sensors are slow and rather annoying with the sweeping gauge movement. It may be in the ballpark but you'll only know a few seconds after you've run wildly lean and already cooked your motor. I'll take a pic/movie of mine for you if you want. Get one that lights up the background too cause it looks better for the bling sake.
Ok, here it is. It's 3GP (From my phone) which means you might have to download quicktime to view it if you don't already have quicktime, if so.. bad luck, it's what you gotta do to view.
Schwang. (http://web.aanet.com.au/naa/afg.3gp)
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