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Okay I know a few people here have nos and I got a few questions...
First of all how do you set up an engine for nos? Like what parts are needed, are they hard to source are they expensive?
Next, are their any specific engine mods that need to be done before nos go in? Any internal work? Or is a dead stock engine aiight?
And then, rough cost? Of parts and labour, how much labour is involved, and who would be able to do labour for me? General mech, or a custom guy?
Will it have any side effects if it gets put into my engine? And how long would it take for these side effects to take place?
I have a pretty much stock 3L auto with just exhaust, would it even be worth putting nos in? Or not cos its an auto?
This one is going to sound stupid but where do you learn to drive once you have nos? Like you cant test it on the road, and you would want to try it out before you take it down the 1/4mile, although i’m thinking take it to a track day and play with it their? Does the steering wheel go nuts when you hit it?

Umm that’s all I think? Or that I can remember at least, all questions would be much appreciated and sorry bout the long post, i'm just wondering about these things and tossing up to put it in or not?

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On a basic level nos is similar to a turbo set up as oxygen density in the combustion chamber is increased, i can assume u know this but ill say it anyway.

NO2 in its chemical make up is more than 66% oxygen, the internal combustion engine makes its power from the combination of fuel and oxygen igniting in an enclosed space and the forced is used to turn the crank.

o2 + fuel + ignition = power

NOS is added to the air side of the equation increased the oxygen concentration in the mixture, which means more fuel can be added to make more power. Im only saying this in the hope that it is obvious that you need engine management to added the extra fuel otherwise it'll lean out, run to hot for the design of internals and things will break. Sorry if im covering simple **** but the amount of times i tell my mate he just cant supercharge his commo without a tune is ridiculous.

The costs i got quoted were about

1) 1900$ for the shop to supply fit nos and to retune my e6x.

2) 800$ to fit the kit and tune my computer

In terms of whether it's a good idea or not, sure go for it, cheap 50hp or so for a magna and itll surely bring a smile to your face, just road test it in straight lines where you wont lose traction badly, 2nd gear of the auto should be right.

Take it to a performance shop

hope this helps peace

With a proper tune your motor should run fine with it, one member has an engine well into the 200000k's bracket with nos for a lot and lot of bottles

NO2 in its chemical make up is more than 66% oxygen, the internal combustion engine makes its power from the combination of fuel and oxygen igniting in an enclosed space and the forced is used to turn the crank.

Actually, NOS refers to Nitrous Oxide which is N2O, not NO2. SO it's actually only 33% oxygen. But that's ok as it's still more oxygen than is found in regular air. (about 21%)

You also get a benefit from the drop in intake temperature as the liquid N2O becomes a gas.

With a proper tune your motor should run fine with it, one member has an engine well into the 200000k's bracket with nos for a lot and lot of bottles

umm its actually 320000 km out of my lil 3L hehe



stock engine no. bigger fuel pump, fuel reg, exhaust and extrators. i went for over sized injectors. just the 3.5lt ones. run a 75hp shot for a while was fine... then once i got haltec upped it its at like 93hp at the moment.

learning to drive with it ?? ummm just dont do it in traffic. keep it for highways drag strips ect ect

Actually, NOS refers to Nitrous Oxide which is N2O, not NO2. SO it's actually only 33% oxygen. But that's ok as it's still more oxygen than is found in regular air. (about 21%)

You also get a benefit from the drop in intake temperature as the liquid N2O becomes a gas.

lol what he said, i always get that part wrong

Remember to check your states reg's on it though. In QLD is illegal to have the kit installed HOWEVER I believe the rules are like this:

1) It is ILLEGAL to have Nitros injection equipment installed on a registered vehicle on a public road (That would mean, even if you took out your bottle and lines, still having the jet in your intake is illegal but I'm not sure how many cops would be this car savvy to even know that it's a jet..)

2) It is NOT ILLEGAL to USE nitros injection on public roads.

Basically they did not have to use the 2 clause because how can you use n2o without having the kit installed?!

I am probably completely wrong though. Meh should be the one to talk to about the laws

you CAN go to the strip, install the kit re: Sneaky Pete, shoot away, then uninstall and drive home, just as long as you have a seperate intake fabricated with the n2o jet installed or a blank you can screw into the hole of your normal intake.

Honestly I guess it'd be easy to just stealth install it as much as possible, black paint your n2o jet and your braded lines and have the bottle in your spare wheel well.. Then when you get home, just chuck the spare back in and use the left over nitros to chill the beers :cool:

I'm keen for a sneaky pete install, you could fit the bottle in your front bar and it'd be easy to run the lines to your intake and take it out once your done, just have some brakets made up and plug it all in when you wanna gas it.. Problem is Sneaky Pete's are more commonly found for Carby injection (for bikes) but you could just buy a EFI kit minus bottle and buy the sneaky pete bottle after. Would be killer.

Also, hitting the "Nos dude" is not like fast and furious,well unless you install a 200hp kit, which you won't because your engine will nail it into engine heaven and since you'll have a stock engine you'd only want a 50hp kit to start so you will certainly feel it, but your car won't go ape****. Mostly I want nitros for a LED purge kit :P they're awesome.

n2o has to be the cheapest bang for buck mod in existence for horsepower.

i'm pretty sure its legal to have it all it the car.. as long as the bottle isn't connected, you'll be right.

i allways thought nos was new old stocklol :bowrofl: lol

it is!

NOS is also a company... Nitrous Oxide Systems

it is!

NOS is also a company... Nitrous Oxide Systems

actually NOS is just a company..ppl reffer to N2O as NOS because of this company.. NOS means nothing other than their company name

i looked at this also.
be aware in wa it is an offence carrying a $10000 fine to have any nitrous injection equipment installed on a road registered vehicle. regardless of whether u have the bottle in the car. might wanna check the laws for your respective state.

actually NOS is just a company..ppl reffer to N2O as NOS because of this company.. NOS means nothing other than their company name
lol.. i know that... but it actually also stands for New Old Stock

law is in qld. if u are caught with ANYTHING to do with nos in yur car u get fined. this includes all the lines and fittings not just the bottles. fine is the maximum defect 3 points and i think its about $450 fine then u gotta go to the inspection place to get yur car looked over with a fine comb

Honestly I guess it'd be easy to just stealth install it as much as possible, black paint your n2o jet and your braded lines and have the bottle in your spare wheel well.. Then when you get home, just chuck the spare back in

That's what i'm doing... :D

"NAAWZ"

law is in qld. if u are caught with ANYTHING to do with nos in yur car u get fined. this includes all the lines and fittings not just the bottles. fine is the maximum defect 3 points and i think its about $450 fine then u gotta go to the inspection place to get yur car looked over with a fine comb

You shouldn't be saying NOS, you should say ZEX.

I got a N2O ZEX system on e-bay for $450, just hide it well...hehehehe:badgrin:

I got a N2O ZEX system on e-bay for $450, just hide it well...hehehehe:badgrin:

very very well. I remember reading in a mag once a shop did a sneaky pete on a aprilla 50cc scooter with the 'go go' button 'hidden' as they threw away the horn and used that button. Sneaky.. ;) Just don't use your horn 'button' as your mum might have to borrow the car and get a bit of a scare when she beeps at someone cutting her off and she ends up half way inserted into a maccas or something. :cool:

sneaky pete system is meant for a scooter i woyldsnt bother putting it in my car gains would be to small

i have a question,

do EFI cars generally just use normal nos systems or do they require wet not systems... as i understand it a wet not system compensates for fuel and feeds for ... if it was efi u wouldnt need this right ? or am i way off ...

ive got a quote for a full kit including bottles plus purge kit for 950, however that was heavily discounted

i'll post cause i love brand new as in your sig.


haha did you notice that its my user name too?

um anyways, first step is def finding out about state laws, i dont wanna get screwed over for something that i could of avoided.. however if state laws say i can have it, just with out the bottle, all will be sweet, and i will start researching local places, and saving. ha. thanks guys!

sneaky pete system is meant for a scooter i woyldsnt bother putting it in my car gains would be to small

i have a question,

do EFI cars generally just use normal nos systems or do they require wet not systems... as i understand it a wet not system compensates for fuel and feeds for ... if it was efi u wouldnt need this right ? or am i way off ...

ive got a quote for a full kit including bottles plus purge kit for 950, however that was heavily discounted

I believe "WET" systems are wet because they spray BOTH N2O and FUEL in the jet at the same time, where as "DRY" kits only spray the nitros, there's also "FOGGER" systems, which are by-far the best because they inject the nitros directly into each intake runner just like a fuel injector but are extremely expensive and you have to have a rebuild for nitros.

Sneaky pete KIT is meant for bikes (and anything it can fit on thats carby) but the BOTTLE, which is the thing thats HARD TO HIDE, can be used on anything - Depending on your jetting, you could have a few hits from it before you refill. In fact, I know I have enough room, say, under the glovebox for TWO sneaky pete's, and would anyone think of looking under the glovebox if they were in the search for nitros bottles?? Or I know I have room in the boot behind the boot lining for a few stashed here and there...

It's on the cards for me one day, but maybe I should focus on getting my right CV done before I start dreaming this up... hmmmmmmmmnaaaaaaaaah.. :P

........................I have enough room, say, under the glovebox for TWO sneaky pete's, and would anyone think of looking under the glovebox if they were in the search for nitros bottles?? Or I know I have room in the boot behind the boot lining for a few stashed here and there...



is it really a good idea to have a high pressured bottle of flammable gas in the cabin of the car? :confused:

its not a flammable gas.

nitrous is an oxidising agent... it doesn't burn, its creates oxygen so that more fuel can burn. the scene in F&F where it explodes is utter rubbish. its just like punching a hole in a scuba tank.

thats right its not flammable.. heres a pic to prove it

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/mehhh/DSC00123.jpg

this may come across as a noob question, but how much is it worth to refill nitrous bottles? ie what is the giggle gas worth per litre or kg or however its measured?

its like $10 or somthing per pound... i got 10 pound bottles. so its around $100 a bottle.

the price keeps goin up though. wen i first had it for like 6 months i got free refills then it was $50 a bottle then they sold shop and didnt get hooks up no more. but most places usually just sell per bottle so like $90 a bottle.

I think the price went up on re-fills because workshops need licences and permits to re-fill NOS bottles now...

its not a flammable gas.

nitrous is an oxidising agent... it doesn't burn, its creates oxygen so that more fuel can burn. the scene in F&F where it explodes is utter rubbish. its just like punching a hole in a scuba tank.

Thank god someone sorted him out on that.

What do you think dentists (used to?) use to get their patients happy? n2o isn't flammable nor does it have any side effects healthwise (unless you abuse it like crazy, then there HAS to be SOME sort of bad effects). Sneaky pete's are only like 2lb's.

Thank god someone sorted him out on that.

What do you think dentists (used to?) use to get their patients happy? n2o isn't flammable nor does it have any side effects healthwise (unless you abuse it like crazy, then there HAS to be SOME sort of bad effects). Sneaky pete's are only like 2lb's.

Automotive N2O isn't suitable for human administration. There are impurities in it not found in the medical grade version.

Automotive N2O isn't suitable for human administration. There are impurities in it not found in the medical grade version.


me and a mate had a huge arguement about this i said that humans couldnt use it cos itd proably be not as pure...

Not quite.

Its denatured - added sulphur dioxide makes leak detection easy, and stops people from inhaling it (cause sulphur dioxide smells and tastes FOUL).

Medical grade Nitrous oxide works at a pinch, but it is illegal for CIG etc. to fill an automotive bottle with medical grade due to the possiblity of abuse.

its not a flammable gas.

nitrous is an oxidising agent... it doesn't burn, its creates oxygen so that more fuel can burn. the scene in F&F where it explodes is utter rubbish. its just like punching a hole in a scuba tank.


but then why did it explode? it was like watch out NAWWZ and then BOOOOOM and the flame was blue :bowrofl:

anyways so is there like a specific kit for a magna or all you need is nos injector, pipes and bottle?

but then why did it explode? it was like watch out NAWWZ and then BOOOOOM and the flame was blue :bowrofl:

anyways so is there like a specific kit for a magna or all you need is nos injector, pipes and bottle?

It blew because it's hollywood.. It's also lies where they hit the nawz button and everything goes all streamy, that one son, is called camera effects. What else is **** in F&F is the branding, like in the first one with "Motec exhausts" and "Spoon engines"..

Do you believe that the actors die in movies or anything that's in them is factual? a big blast of the nitros might have put that flame out.

I have a feeling Ashneel was just playin allong...lol

It blew because it's hollywood.. It's also lies where they hit the nawz button and everything goes all streamy, that one son, is called camera effects. What else is **** in F&F is the branding, like in the first one with "Motec exhausts" and "Spoon engines"..

Do you believe that the actors die in movies or anything that's in them is factual? a big blast of the nitros might have put that flame out.

your sarcasm detector sucks man

I have a feeling Ashneel was just playin allong...lol

no i wasnt i was serious







lol yes i was playing along hahaha

It blew because it's hollywood.. It's also lies where they hit the nawz button and everything goes all streamy, that one son, is called camera effects.



but in need for speed the same think happens when i have level 3 NOS

i dont get it!!

You can "pretend" your on the set of the next F&F movie and when you've pushed the little red button to inject NOS, squint REALLY hard and, to you, everything will look 'streamy' and you can pretend you're doing 200mph after changing into 20th gear...

Otherwise, get a F**KEN NOS kit (like i did) and experience it for yourself!

You can "pretend" your on the set of the next F&F movie and when you've pushed the little red button to inject NOS, squint REALLY hard and, to you, everything will look 'streamy' and you can pretend you're doing 200mph after changing into 20th gear...

Don't forget the laptop displaying "DANGER TO THE MANIFOLD" shortly before the floor falls out of the passenger footwell..

i know jay (AKA Mafia) has a zex kit in his ralliart, and the thing goes like a zirtec!

Don't forget the laptop displaying "DANGER TO THE MANIFOLD" shortly before the floor falls out of the passenger footwell..

:bowrofl: