hey guys, treads gettin a bit low on my front tyres and i wanna rotate them with the rears. wondering if theres a specific way to do it, eg. front left swap with rear right..
ive heard this is so other places, wanting to double check,
cheers
big 4

Front to back down the same side, so the tyre continues to rotate in the same direction.

Never put them on opposite sides, it reverses the rotational direction.

That's 40 years of experience, guaranteed.

Front to back down the same side, so the tyre continues to rotate in the same direction.

Never put them on opposite sides, it reverses the rotational direction.

That's 40 years of experience, guaranteed.

yeah, but what happens if the tyres are not directional?

and we all know the n/s tyres usually wears the most.

big 4 your manual tells u how to do this:nuts: :D

big 4 your manual tells u how to do this:nuts: :D

yeh i would read it but theres this lil problem... i dont have one lol

yeah, but what happens if the tyres are not directional?

and we all know the n/s tyres usually wears the most.

Regardless of whether the tyres are directional or not, swap front/back on same side,
never cross sides. Doing so will weaken the steel belting and other reinforcing components
in the tyres. This was drilled into us when people at work went to an advanced driving
training course.

Absolutetly correct vlad. I had it drilled into me also.

Eventually it changes the "creep" of the tyre and the steel belting as you mentioned.

Also the tyres become more noisey.

hey guys, treads gettin a bit low on my front tyres and i wanna rotate them with the rears.
When my fronts get low I'd usually prefer to go buy a pair of newies for the front (FWD).
Then of the existing 4 tyres, put the 2 best ones on the rear.

Rubber over 3y would have hardened with age and lose a lot of grip. What price, safety?

Regardless of whether the tyres are directional or not, swap front/back on same side,
never cross sides. Doing so will weaken the steel belting and other reinforcing components
in the tyres. This was drilled into us when people at work went to an advanced driving
training course.

oh ok....

i wont cross rotate anymore

Front to back down the same side, so the tyre continues to rotate in the same direction.

Never put them on opposite sides, it reverses the rotational direction.

That's 40 years of experience, guaranteed.

That's not what Bob Jane Tmarts told me, they recommended non directional tyres so I could rotate to opposite side if needed to flatten them out

Craziness, anyway, you go your way and I'll go mine. Good Luck though.

Have heard of the "Run only in 1 direction" idea from various sources,
but methink its just a myth... but not quite exciting enough for Mythbusters.

Steel radial belting in a modern tyre doesn't care which way its rotating,
any physicist will tell you that the centripetal forces on the tyre will be
the same whichever direction its spinning it.

And what about TRUCK tyres??
These guys retread their carcasses (= rubber + steel belts) several times
and they don't note which way the tyre is remounted back on the truck.
Each carcass probably does 1,000,000km in its lifetime and
I've never heard of a truck tyre blowing purely due to steelbelt failure
without either underinflation or delamination of treads.



That's not what Bob Jane Tmarts told me, they recommended non directional tyres so I could rotate to opposite side if needed to flatten them out
umm WRONG.

One thing for 110% for sure is, if your tyres have scrubbed an edge or worn a camber
(ie worn unevenly), rotating them will NOT fix them even after a proper alignment.
Once any tyre is worn unevenly, it will & can never fix itself - It is junk.

umm WRONG.

One thing for 110% for sure is, if your tyres have scrubbed an edge or worn a camber
(ie worn unevenly), rotating them will NOT fix them even after a proper alignment.
Once any tyre is worn unevenly, it will & can never fix itself - It is junk.

But it will fix heel and toe wear.

Rob

Regardless of whether the tyres are directional or not, swap front/back on same side,
never cross sides. Doing so will weaken the steel belting and other reinforcing components
in the tyres. This was drilled into us when people at work went to an advanced driving
training course.


ive heard this before but it makes no sence as when you accel the tyre goes 1 way and when you brake the tyre goes the other. so whats the differance between braking and accel and swaping left to right

my book tells me to move the rear passenger to the front drivers then rotate the rest around clockwise from there O_O pics later

Generic Smart **** Reply

"Bro just fully buy 4 new tyres aye"

Nah i am a fan of the "swap fronts to backs" method. Its the simplest and easiest if you drive ya car like a road car should be "i.e. - legally". I do know however you should never put 2 different tread patterns to ONE side of the car, back to front is okay, but having a bridgey and a michey on ONE side = NO NO. my current set up is 2 directional tyres up from (bridgestones) and then i have THREE of the ventus i think, which are non directional.

Hope this helps mate :S

Cheers Shibbs

Generic Smart **** Reply

"Bro just fully buy 4 new tyres aye"

Nah i am a fan of the "swap fronts to backs" method. Its the simplest and easiest if you drive ya car like a road car should be "i.e. - legally". I do know however you should never put 2 different tread patterns to ONE side of the car, back to front is okay, but having a bridgey and a michey on ONE side = NO NO. my current set up is 2 directional tyres up from (bridgestones) and then i have THREE of the ventus i think, which are non directional.

Hope this helps mate :S

Cheers Shibbs

No, you should never put 2 different tread patterned tyres on the same axel. For example,
for exageration, fit a Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 on the front left and a Goodyear Regatta
on the front right. Guess what would happen in an emergency braking situation, especially
in the wet.

No, you should never put 2 different tread patterned tyres on the same axel. For example,
for exageration, fit a Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 on the front left and a Goodyear Regatta
on the front right. Guess what would happen in an emergency braking situation, especially
in the wet.

Sorry for the confusion, by one side i meant as in front side and back side, so on the same axle should be the same tyre. thats the point i was trying to get across so i will text draw itt

-------- = axle

nose
miche ------- miche
|
|
bridge--------bridge
rear

i hope that clears it up, i think thats the only way i would put 2 different brands of tyre on my car, other wise as vlad said, different coefficients of friction would cause the car to skew to one side == the bad mmkay.

Cheers Shibbs

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"Bro just fully buy 4 new tyres aye"...


Exactly! The grip of (all 4) tires is what connects you to the road...and what stops your car...Dont save on safety! Those crucial 20 or so cms of braking distance can potentially save life...

m2c

Don't forget that you shouldn'y be thrashing the car after fitting new tyres until after
200kms or so because:

1. Lack of traction as the new tyre coatings have not rubbed off.
2. Tyre tyre beads needs time to fully seat into the rim which takes time, otherwise you'll
experience a catastrophic loss of air while cornering hard.