hey guys just wanna know does any one here know of any guys that can make up custom cv joints as im adding a 5.0lt motor into the magna and need custom cvs to handle the power. if any one knows of any place, dont care where in aust there are.

hey guys just wanna know does any one here know of any guys that can make up custom cv joints as im adding a 5.0lt motor into the magna and need custom cvs to handle the power. if any one knows of any place, dont care where in aust there are.

your ****Admin Edit**** doing what????

custom CV's are the least of your worries mate...

your ****admin edit**** doing what????

custom CV's are the least of your worries mate...
:bowrofl: Best response EVER

5L? What for? :shock: And why a magna :confused:

And why a magna :confused:

Why not?

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45298

that is why not

Will it be able to do a backflip?

:bowrofl:

Will it be able to do a backflip?

:bowrofl:

Haha but yeah, CV's are the least of your worries man... I don't know of any 5.0L engines that'll sit the right way round. Unless Lexus makes something.

Our engines are sideways, doncha know? :D

yeah im very interested in what motor and tranny your going to use.

Ive heard all about what he's doing.
This car is gonna be absolutly crazy
This man does not bullsh*t

']http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45298

that is why not
:bowrofl: That's exactly my point.

That thread was awesome... good times.

a 308ci 5.0L V8 has already been transplanted into a magna before...

http://www.mumboracing.com/images/2005/TCCR8/Img023733JPEG%20of.jpg

Not really a magna, just like all supercars aren't commodore or falcons. More of a rollcage with some panels.

What happened to the positivity this forum used to have. We used to encourage new ideas.

Now it seams as if it's mostly filled with a bunch of childish negatives trigger happy to shoot down anything that strays from the big rims, lowering and fully mad exhaust. It's getting boring.


']http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45298

that is why not

That doesn't explain anything :roll:

Not really a magna, just like all supercars aren't commodore or falcons. More of a rollcage with some panels.

Actually it's built on a Magna shell. Mitsubishi built a few shells to the future tourer specs ready for RWD conversion a while back.

hey guys just wanna know does any one here know of any guys that can make up custom cv joints as im adding a 5.0lt motor into the magna and need custom cvs to handle the power. if any one knows of any place, dont care where in aust there are.

If you haven't already, I'd try talking to some "driveline specialists" in your area. When I broke my diff initially, my mechanics thought it sounded like something in the driveline (either CV's or driveshafts), they mentioned that they would send it to a driveline place, who would be able to fix it and make sure they didn't break again. I could get you their number if you like.

i know that cvs are the least of my worries but wanted some info on them, and why not a 5lt better then all these crap bolt on options and for a 2nd gen we dont have much to offer for bolt ons so why not do a custom job at least i know my car wont be like all the others out there and im using a vn 5.0lt

sounds good black beard but i will need the cvs made bigger to hande the torque n power and to those that have supported my idea good to see people backing others ideas and those that dont oh well

why not a 5lt better then all these crap bolt on options and for a 2nd gen we dont have much to offer for bolt ons so why not do a custom job at least i know my car wont be like all the others out there and im using a vn 5.0lt

I wouldn't exactly class an engine conversion in the same league as bolt on mods, but anyway - whats wrong with a TT 3000GT motor. Pretty sure that would me a much more straight forward conversion.

Good luck with it man.

The 5.0L is pretty big... and traditionally it's mounted forwards (not sideways like our cars)... (because every car that has one is RWD...). If you can find a way to squeeze it into the TS engine bay sideways... then your doing okay!

And sideways will be the only way to go in...because by the sounds of it you aren't going to convert your car to RWD (I only assume this, because your asking about CV's).

Let us know how it goes.

yeah it would be but as i have said i dont wanna be like every one else and use the same old stuff wanna be different with my ride and i love the sound of the 5lt exhaust

sounds good black beard but i will need the cvs made bigger to hande the torque n power

Which is exactly what I would have needed if mine were infact broken :nuts: . Might be worth sussing out how similar 2nd gen CV joints are to those in 3rd gens.

I'm making considerably more power and torque than a 5L V8 and haven't broken the CV's.

well the motor i have has been worked when it was last tested it was at the 300 mark HP

well the motor i have has been worked when it was last tested it was at the 300 mark HP

Cool whats been done to it?

port polish, shaved heads, new lunati pistons, COME racing stroker, new cam shaft dur 237 lift ,595 COME racing dual throttle body thats about all i can remeber

port polish, shaved heads, new lunati pistons, COME racing stroker, new cam shaft dur 237 lift ,595 COME racing dual throttle body thats about all i can remeber

Sweet man.

So whats your plan for actually fitting it sideways in the TS engine bay, and then bolting it up to the box? Or are you going to take the entire driveline out of the VN and modify it so it works with the TS?

yeah bro i aint too sure exactly as of yet trying to do one thing at a time here was thinking of scraping the fwd crap and convert to rwd

So... you won't need new CV's at all then?

well i wanna see the price on them any ways to see if its worth keeping fwd if not well say hello to a rwd magna lol

...yeah. Fo shure.

:bowrofl:

I wouldn't exactly class an engine conversion in the same league as bolt on mods, but anyway - whats wrong with a TT 3000GT motor. Pretty sure that would me a much more straight forward conversion.
:stoopid:

Agreed, and you can then boast about that sexy motor in your second gen. Plus it'll be a little more economical on fuel lol Hope all goes well though, whatever path you choose.

So um let me get this straight......

You wanna put a worked 5L into a TS. You don't know if you are going to retain the FWD platform, or convert to RWD. You acknowledge that CV's are the least of your worries, and when I offer to put you in touch with a workshop which might be able to modify your CV's you respond with some vague "yeah but it will need to handle more power and torque" crap.

What credibility??

...I think if he had researched it a little bit, or was even remotely serious about doing it...

...he would've scrubbed out FWD altogether. There's no ****in way you could do it.

hey its a shame that the vn 5.0lt is also used as a buick motor which is fwd so it can be done

Eh? Buick used a 5.0L V8... but not in any FWD cars I know of... and it certianly wouldn't have been the same beasty that went inside the VN.

Are you sure your not mixing it up with the Ecotec 3.8L?

Buick fwd? Arnt those things v8 muscle cars, I dont think any of them came out as FWD, but you know I would love for you to prove me wrong.

As for the CV's its possible that a driveline specialist could make shafts from a couple of other models, for eg. using a spline from the gearbox you will be using and have a stronger joint to a stronger hub, you will prolly have to fit new hubs to get CVs working right, a fwd car with lots of power, possibly an xr5, an Aurion or maybe one of those new sc 380s, all have 200kw+. I think this project is possible but you are going to run into a massacrer of problems. The main one being a v8 east-west *with a gearbox* cant fit into a TS bay. Prove me wrong!!

Ive called about 50-60 wreckers/drivline places around Australia for shafts for my corolla agze box and nothing. CLosest I got was 'SSS Parts' in Sydney, give them a call they seams like they knew what they were talking about, they could lead you in the right way at least.

theres a mitsu proudia i think has a 4.2 ltr dohc v8.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_8A8x_engine

mmmm v8 fwd with 206 kw(5000rpm) and 412 Nm(4000) had only auto transmition.

havent been able to find pics of wich way engine is. 2nd gen or 3rd gen

^mmm good find!

the reason everyone responds negatively is because those who have been here long enough have seen plenty of these "dreams" talked about but never happened for the obvious reasons

good luck with it anyway... you say its the sound of the 5litre you like... then personally id get a 5.0litre VN a go nuts modying that..will go crazy and wont cost anywhere near as much...

the reason everyone responds negatively is because those who have been here long enough have seen plenty of these "dreams" talked about but never happened for the obvious reasons

good luck with it anyway... you say its the sound of the 5litre you like... then personally id get a 5.0litre VN a go nuts modying that..will go crazy and wont cost anywhere near as much...

I for one am always happy to hear about peoples ideas when it comes to doing unique performance mods for cars. It just ****s me to tears when people come on here and post rediculous questions which make it blatantly obvious that they haven't even done the most basic research into the topic.

Considering this bloke apparently has opened a automotive custom workshop employing 12 specialists...... I would have loved to see this idea come to fuition.

which gearbox was he going to run??? for the fwd platform

Well i can tell you this guy knows whats hes doing.
Sure he's grammer isnt the best on AMC but hes a real tech head.
give him a bit of time

I for one am always happy to hear about peoples ideas when it comes to doing unique performance mods for cars. It just ****s me to tears when people come on here and post rediculous questions which make it blatantly obvious that they haven't even done the most basic research into the topic.

Considering this bloke apparently has opened a automotive custom workshop employing 12 specialists...... I would have loved to see this idea come to fuition.

if he would give me his work address like i asked, id have gone and had a look by now....

hey i think its a great idea but wouldnt it be illegal as that model magna dont come out stock in V8s ?? thats what i got told by my mates dad and his a cop cos i was asking him about v8s and that and he said if the car model doesnt come with a stock v8 ya cant put one in but idunoo wouldnt always listen to cops lol.. anyway good luck mate

the only way you will ever get to do this conversion is going RWD using the holden driveline

getting a fwd box to mate up with the Holden 5L is virtually impossible

Hahah, this kid plays to many java games....

buick (and GM in gerneral) have released quite a few v8 fwd's... cant remember models off the top of my head.

1 thing tho, and forgive if i'm wrong i'm not right up on holden/gm motors, doesn't the vn 5L have a dif bellhousing pattern to the normal GM 1. like 1 is a turbo bolt pattern the other is a TH. i know its a prob u can have... if u dont use the right block ur gb wont fit.

ur gona need to get out a tape and measure the hell out of it be4 u even start to think cuse i think ur gonna find clearence issues just getting the engine in let alone getting the buick gb output to line up.

gl with it

to be honest, dont even contemplate a FWD V8...it will be pathetic, heavy and drive like **** and if your after "street cred" then im afraid FWD wont give you that


RWD all the way!

I'm wondering why you would put a Holden 5.0 into a TR/S Magna? From magazines of the VN/TR era they say the Magna is @ 150 kg heavier than the Commodore.... And with all that mod work to the structure of the TR to accommodate the RWD it is bound to be heavier again! I'm sorry but i cant see the point... You would be better off keeping the VN bodyshell for the VN engine!

go for it mate dont let these comments make you say stuff it .. lets just wait for tyhe end product and comment than

go for it mate dont let these comments make you say stuff it .. lets just wait for tyhe end product and comment than
Mate I don't think you can quite comprehend the amount of financial investment he'll have to submit to this mod, it isn't a CAI or tinted tail lights, its a complete engine swap that could have serious problems with actually fitting it in in the first place, and then converting it to RWD. We're advising him not to waste his money on it, as the end result will cost more than it's worth, its a matter of using your brain to figure out that it'll be a living nightmare to start, work on, complete and maintain.

daryl mcbeths car cost in excess of $100,000 i heard... obviously your not attempting that but i reckon youd be up around $50,000 to do it properly.. thats one very expensive TR that, as others have said will probably end up running worse than a stock VN V8... they arent quick as it is so your going to end up with a very expensive slow magna...

it a really silly idea mate... you have to draw the line somewhere with modying magnas and i think attempting a FWD V8 conversion is about it.. even RWD V8 in a magna is silly and not something that should be bothered with in my opinion

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Hmm, I've seen a lot of EFI 5.0L V8's ending up inside Kingswood utes... I think thats a far better use for them...

...but MAD TS, if you've got that V8, then I assume you've still got the VN, yeah? It sounds like your on your way with engine mods, so why not pimp out the VN? Parts aplenty!

Cause quite honestly, you were talking sheeet from the start with this one matey. But hey, its cool to dream!

i agree with everyone who said its a bit of a waste.

gremlin is right....man you really need to draw a line somewhere, and make it a thick line so you dont get any silly ideas like that again.

i can see it now. *turns ignition on, cars starts, motor and front wheels burning up the street with the magna still at the lights*!!!

and 5lts do have different bell housing stud patterns. i had trouble finding parts for our 5lt thats in our boat.


i would love to see this dream of yours actually end up to a reality....but i dare say we will be waiting a very long time.

good luck mate

let him do it...... even if this does all come together car wont last long. a V8 in a front wheel drive magna = written off car and a law suit that will crush you

why dont you think about do something realistic. Even if you want to keep the 2nd gen platform. An idea i have been toying with, but most likely would never happen is RB26 4wd engine, rear sub frame/diff cradle out of a R32, cut the tranny tunnel out of a VK commo and graft into the magna floor.

This all fits (out of bordom got the tape out and roughly mesured out, as a mate has the drive line out of his skyline) but the engerneering side of this is huge and would never be road reg'd and cost out of this world.

this is crazier than the 3.5lt DOHC conversion i heard someone is going to put in a TR :bowrofl:

this is crazier than the 3.5lt DOHC conversion i heard someone is going to put in a TR :bowrofl:

Pfffff
$20 says he'll put the 5L in:P
and $100 says i put the 3.5 in :P

:bowrofl:

Haha but yeah, CV's are the least of your worries man... I don't know of any 5.0L engines that'll sit the right way round. Unless Lexus makes something.

Our engines are sideways, doncha know? :D

a lot of american V8s of the 80s and 90s are front wheel drive, like cadillacs so there might be something there that will fit.

']Pfffff
$20 says he'll put the 5L in:P
and $100 says i put the 3.5 in :P


lets see who has the last laugh when the engineers say "you'll need 500mm rotors and 10piston calipers to stop that thing"

and im not making any bets...you'll need the money to pull the heads off the 3.5lt 3 times :bowrofl:

lets see who has the last laugh when the engineers say "you'll need 500mm rotors and 10piston calipers to stop that thing"

and im not making any bets...you'll need the money to pull the heads off the 3.5lt 3 times :bowrofl:

its got enough braking pow-a as it is:P

LOL not touching the heads mate!

a lot of american V8s of the 80s and 90s are front wheel drive, like cadillacs so there might be something there that will fit.

With a bit of work, I'm sure there is a V8 out there that would fit with a lot of mucking around.

But he's not looking at other V8's... he's already got a worked VN V8 5.0L.

lets look at this situation properly, just a quick think and i reckon it could be done

the magna has a large engine bay, and the 2nd gen housed a 2.6 litre 4 cylinder. get the length measurements from front to back then get measurement of V8 engine front to back and go with an engine of similar length. Personally i would go a toyota 4 litre V8 out of the soarer as it would be slightly shorter than a 5 litre and just a better engine than a 5 litre boat anchor.

so in short, lexus V8 and a gearbox from an Astron 2 should be able to fit in a magna engine bay in a FWD configuration. I reckon if you stayed FWD it would be more original than going RWD

what about cv's from a Cadillac there FWD V8's
just a thought

just get some 5'' solid steel bar and duct tape it to a CV joint and sikaflex it into the gearbox. She be right lol

theres a mitsu proudia i think has a 4.2 ltr dohc v8.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_8A8x_engine

mmmm v8 fwd with 206 kw(5000rpm) and 412 Nm(4000) had only auto transmition.

havent been able to find pics of wich way engine is. 2nd gen or 3rd gen



found this only a 3.5 not the v8 http://www.tradecarview.com/stock/photo.aspx?id=68083&p=3
looks east west to me
could not see the v8 being any differant

well i have scraped the cv crap me and a mate are going to cut out a vn floor pan and weld that in so i have the trans tunnel all there and yes the 5.0lt will fit in been over the messure ments 3 times and looks to fit i will be converting it to rwd and a new fuel tank will be made up

well i have scraped the cv crap me and a mate are going to cut out a vn floor pan and weld that in so i have the trans tunnel all there and yes the 5.0lt will fit in been over the messure ments 3 times and looks to fit i will be converting it to rwd and a new fuel tank will be made up

Boss!!!! Can't wait should be good man!!! loving the V8'S!!!!
GOOD LUCK

good luck getting that road legal your going to need it:)

good luck getting that road legal your going to need it:)

:stoopid:

in all honesty i would love to see this go through and see a V8 magna on the road, but IMO i think there is too much time, effort and money involved in it.

have you worked out a cost for this little project?
have you spoken to your RTA?
have you had instructions on what to do by engineers?

:stoopid:

in all honesty i would love to see this go through and see a V8 magna on the road, but IMO i think there is too much time, effort and money involved in it.

have you worked out a cost for this little project?
have you spoken to your RTA?
have you had instructions on what to do by engineers?

bahhh who cares about legalities and rego

just drive on a temp vehicle permit :D

then when you get pulled over nothing can be done ;) cos your allowed to drive this beast to and from a place of repair.... so your always going to the mechanic lol

good luck getting that road legal your going to need it:)

Where in any of his posts does he say he wants it to be street legal??
:doubt:

Wanted to read the whole thread but I have to move on. But 1stly, there are a numerous FWD 4.6L V8s in the US. Why not start there. Sure you've already got the motor but for cut and shutability? :think:

']Ive heard all about what he's doing.
This car is gonna be absolutly crazy
This man does not bullsh*t

If thats the case then he must know sh!t loads about cars right, then why is he asking for advice on a forum. If he's planning to do it then cv's are a very small challenge on a rather huge project.

If this gets done, ****ing wow! :bowdown:

i got a feeling it will get done or something similar on the same basis

If thats the case then he must know sh!t loads about cars right, then why is he asking for advice on a forum. If he's planning to do it then cv's are a very small challenge on a rather huge project.

He was asking if anyone knew of a place for custom CV's, so he was more after a recommendation.
He's been keeping me updated on this project.
It has a fully imported bodykit from the states (not telling you from what car but it is pretty much bolt on...and its not a jap car) and well its gonna be RWD...
I just hope he does go through with it or else ill look like having too much faith in him lol

If thats the case then he must know sh!t loads about cars right, then why is he asking for advice on a forum. If he's planning to do it then cv's are a very small challenge on a rather huge project.
:stoopid:

We'll see how this pans out... lets hope it's better than how his big 'kustomz' business panned out hey?

A few months later, is this beast cranking yet?

I'm going to make a subtle suggestion. The Galant VR4 platform is AWD, and very close to Gen 1.5 Magna (it should work both ways). Try getting the floorpan out of one of those, and see if you can use it to RWD the Magna. Forget about FWD, the Buick 3.8 block was modified back to RWD when the VN came out

I'd say go for it, if you think it'll work, and you've got the workshop, there's no reason why it shouldn't.

And, the VN Commodore weighs about the same as a TR Magna, it's not the same weight as a first gen. (Though, if it is, I stand corrected, and it explains the lousy build quality)

i jsut read 8 pages of posts i want pics.

:bowrofl:

Haha but yeah, CV's are the least of your worries man... I don't know of any 5.0L engines that'll sit the right way round. Unless Lexus makes something.

Our engines are sideways, doncha know? :D

toyota had a 4WD 4liter V8 version that would go in - but its not 5 liters, anyway only cheap wine comes in 5 liters

i dont see what so impossible about it - i have seen 2jzs in geminis!

Yeah I want pics to!!

just get some 5'' solid steel bar and duct tape it to a CV joint and sikaflex it into the gearbox. She be right lol


Dont ya think that is abit of a over kill

well i have scraped the cv crap me and a mate are going to cut out a vn floor pan and weld that in so i have the trans tunnel all there and yes the 5.0lt will fit in been over the messure ments 3 times and looks to fit i will be converting it to rwd and a new fuel tank will be made up



what ya going to do wit the stearing rack? that is dead in the way of the back of the engine.

A mate of mine used to build custom drive shafts. they did a lot of work for CV Performance in Sydney.. they build them for there 9sec irs Comms. maybe talk to a performance shop in your area that have built a bit IRS car and find out who did there shafts as they will do them..:) they will use truck joints in the shafts..:)

has anyone thought that without the proper re-enforcement, the chasis could actually twist?:nuts: kinda, written off...

hope this guys got packs of cash, he's going to need it...

well even though this thread is pretty much over i believe i should say that 6g72 TT gto engine would not only bolt in it would probably piss out 300hp atw (as mike said). For rwd i reckon the vr4 floorplan was a mad idea or even the awd diamante though they are rare. And i disagree with alot of **** in this thread but its massive and i have been ignoring it.

The TT 6g72 had over 400nm of torque stock and would probably do 300hp on stock turbos and compression (8:1) to put an older less technologically advanced engine in that would probably triple at least the cost (thinking 10k) to put one of these in; you'd be mad.

thanks for reading

A few months later, is this beast cranking yet?
Worst threadmine EVARRRR.

Was Talking with him today.....now i dont know what goes on in SA but he said he couldnt get it registered becuase of some power to weight stuff?

But he's gonna email me some pictures and stuff.

']Was Talking with him today.....now i dont know what goes on in SA but he said he couldnt get it registered becuase of some power to weight stuff?

But he's gonna email me some pictures and stuff.
Nothing a bag of cement can't fix... that or he lines the boot with it, hardened, call it sound deadening.

Nothing a bag of cement can't fix... that or he lines the boot with it, hardened, call it sound deadening.
Might have something to do with the 300hp 5L in the front.

a tr magna fwd 5lt is just a silly mod

convert it to rwd it would be a lot cheeper and easier to fit it all in there and it would handle a lot better having weight back and front,

bolt in some leaf springs use a diff out of a falcon ute or wagon get a tale shaft made.

mount the motor the right way custom make the k frame to suit v8
bolt up a box and make a x member.

the other way fwd
try make v8 fit then find a fwd box that wont explode when you press the gas and you will have too much torque steer to keep it straight if the cvs dont blow out.

a tr magna fwd 5lt is just a silly mod

convert it to rwd it would be a lot cheeper and easier to fit it all in there and it would handle a lot better having weight back and front,

bolt in some leaf springs use a diff out of a falcon ute or wagon get a tale shaft made.

mount the motor the right way custom make the k frame to suit v8
bolt up a box and make a x member.


Or you could get an AWD and convert that to RWD, I think that way would be much easier.