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madjack
31-03-2007, 06:42 PM
New release of EvoScan data logging software (v0.99) now supports Gen1/Gen2 vehicles as well as Gen3.
Enjoy :cool:
http://www.limitless.co.nz/evoscan/

wrexed03
31-03-2007, 08:46 PM
Intresting something worth looking into.. Thanks for that.

Regards

MAGNA
01-04-2007, 08:45 AM
I didn't think the Australian models supported this, only the exported models (hence USA, NZ) had the requirement for ODB-II compliance.

Someone order it and try it ;)

madjack
01-04-2007, 01:19 PM
Someone order it and try it
Had a copy for some time. v0.97 works OK for me on 2001 Lancer :)
Need more test mules.
New version v0.99 now works OK for me on 91 TR as well :D

Another one is Mitsulogger, it's a freebie. Gen3 only at the moment.Worked for me on Lancer.
http://www.aktivematrix.com/forum/portal.php?sid=7ffecf80dc0467100d351e428a85c296


I didn't think the Australian models supported this, only the exported models (hence USA, NZ) had the requirement for ODB-II compliance.
AFAIK Gen1/Gen2 & Gen3 all support the Mitsubishi proprietary MUT protocol in some form and that's what the loggers are using.So those non-OBD-II compliant vehicles with the OBD-II connector should talk MUT. I think even the 380 with its OBD-II CAN interface also supports MUT.
It's what the dealers MUT tools use.

Twunka
02-04-2007, 07:55 AM
i'm chucking in an order for this next week. so if anyone wants any dataloggin or anything in the gold coast/brisbane area holla at ya boy

wrexed03
02-04-2007, 10:58 PM
Here is some news for all you folks... I only enquired re below vehicles. So who is going to get in first ??

Hi mate,

If they are listed on my website yes they will work..

Both of these are listed on my website, yes it will work perfectly.

http://www.limitless.co.nz/evoscan

Cheers,
Hamish.

----- Original Message -----
From: Me
To: evoscan@limitless.co.nz
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:08 PM
Subject: Evo Scan 99







Hi Can you tell me if the software and hardware is compatible with Australian model vehicles?

2 in Particular models that I am interested in are as follows.



Mitsubishi Pajero 2001 3.5 engine

Mitsubishi Magna/Verada 3.5 engine



Best Regards

Me

GTV_KruzR
03-04-2007, 06:41 AM
are those cables on the site compatible as well???

if they are, is there any place you can get them cheaper?

gremlin
03-04-2007, 07:35 AM
what exactly will this do for me?

GTV_KruzR
03-04-2007, 07:45 AM
it basically will let you log all the data like power, torque, air flow, air tempreture, fuel flow etc.

lets you know all on some nice lookin graphs, basically helps you find areas in need of improvement and fix it up.

for example, you notice that your not gettin enough air in and runnin rich, add a CAI and it you notice its runnin better but the air temp is a bit high, so you reposition the CAI and then it is optimal. then you can run it and notice the difference in torque and power it made each time, and you can see if there are any lean or rich spots still left. all thanks to a datalogger.

gremlin
03-04-2007, 07:56 AM
ah very nice! so does it tell you what power and torque your makin??

why havent all u guys ordered one?? is the concern it wont work on our magnas??

will3690
03-04-2007, 07:59 AM
If this is the case then why do dynos exist?

Sounds a bit suss to me... i mean find out how much power and torque at the fly your engine has by plugging in a computeR???

I would think that if you could do this every dyno would do it to get the most acurate dyno result???

GTV_KruzR
03-04-2007, 08:19 AM
well when your car gets dynoed it gets plugged up to a computer with a datalogger, and its basically the same except it has the added benefit of having a $$$$ dyno underneath that lets you safely test the car, and you get a at the wheels power so you know what your car is realistically putting out after the driveline not before.

its hard to really test a car safely on the roads with out breakin the law, so it means you need about a 1km stretch of road where you can get the car in 4th gear n up to 190km or so, this is why people use dyno's.

but for <$100 a datalogger and cable that you can hook up to ur laptop and just do some runs in in 1st through to 3rd isn't bad, still will give a power and torque curve that will let you know if you have high torque down low and high power up high in the rev range, airflow, aur temp etc but for a comprehensive read dyno's are the go by all means as it allows full testing to be done safely.

will3690
03-04-2007, 08:35 AM
thankyou for that piece of info. But i still might wait till i see some results of the software.

Phonic
03-04-2007, 09:02 AM
I don't see how a data logger will output data such as power and torque!

You need a dyno to measure power/torque output, weather it's an engine, hub or chassis dynamometer.

greenmatt
03-04-2007, 10:36 AM
I don't see how a data logger will output data such as power and torque!

You need a dyno to measure power/torque output, weather it's an engine, hub or chassis dynamometer.
:stoopid:
It will only output data from factory sensors: rpm, temps, etc nothing directly to do with power/torque. What is more interesting is that one of the cables says it enables writing to the ecu.

madjack
03-04-2007, 01:44 PM
For those of you interested in the dyno/tuning issues there are a number of sites/forums, here's one
http://forums.evolutionm.net/index.php

AFAIK ECU remapping is dependent on the ECU model, seems to be a feature of Evos and Subaru WRX .I don't believe it extends right down the food chain though.
However,I'm not claiming any expertise in what seems to be a very complex area.:confused:

I've used this type of stuff just for diagnostics.IMO very useful, easy to see if things are functioning correctly and to make comparisons between a current and earlier test.Takes a lot of guesswork about what is really going on...doesn't fix the problem but puts you ahead of the pack :D

The logger developers must have put in masses of effort to produce these things cos Mitsubishi doesn't release info at that level. Give the stuff a go....see what you think, and the developers don't mind answering questions...even my really dumb ones !

Cost...check the price of a MUTIII tester. SPX-OTC in the USA can get you into one for US$4870 :shock:

ashleyw
17-05-2007, 08:14 PM
Got it on order, and will post results.
(using the 1.3m cable)

I will test it on 98 NL 3.5 Pajero and 2000 KH Verada 3.5.

Hopefully it can tell me why the Check engine light and Auto Trans light ocasionally flash on the pajero. My 'guess' is TPS, as it only does it when coasting, and as soon as i slightly touch the accelerator pedal, it goes out.

cthulhu
17-05-2007, 08:42 PM
well when your car gets dynoed it gets plugged up to a computer with a datalogger, and its basically the same

Rubbish. A dyno measures tractive effort by comparing the revolution of the rollers caused by the car's wheels with it's own applied the braking load and derives power by the mathematical relationship between the two.

The data logger will give you access to raw sensor signals from your ecu - TPS, CAS, injector duty cycle, air temperature, road speed, coolant temperature - pick a sensor and you'll get the read-out.

wrexed03
17-05-2007, 10:35 PM
Got it on order, and will post results.
(using the 1.3m cable)

I will test it on 98 NL 3.5 Pajero and 2000 KH Verada 3.5.

Hopefully it can tell me why the Check engine light and Auto Trans light ocasionally flash on the pajero. My 'guess' is TPS, as it only does it when coasting, and as soon as i slightly touch the accelerator pedal, it goes out.

Definetly sounds like your TPS i played around one stage with mine and the same result. Check engine light and the diff lock light was flashing as well. Re adjusted and all is good now. Mines a 2001 NM model. Definetley post up the results when you get your cable if it works i might order one as well.
Regards

ashleyw
24-05-2007, 03:13 PM
Well, Evoscan worked ok on my Paj.
I will give it a go on the Magna this weekend.

I must have reset my computer since the Paj last flashed the check engine light, as there were no diagnostic codes to be read.
Hopefully adjusting it to what another member suggested will stop this occuring.

Now I just need a laptop that has a working battery.......... oh well, 12v cig lighter to 240v inverter back to 19v with laptop charger..........

wrexed03
24-05-2007, 03:42 PM
Can you post a screen capture or elaborate on what you can see?
Curious before i order one for mine.

Regards

ashleyw
24-05-2007, 05:34 PM
Ok, it works on a magna. I couldnt wait, so I hooked it up - after having difficulty finding the bloody obd-ii plug.

The main screen gives a list of sensors and the current value.
I have also found that it automatically saves a log file for every connection.
Just playing with it a minute ago, I loaded a log file, and viewed a graph.
You can tick boxes and add more data to graph.

Here are a few screenshots.
Also i have included a scapshot of the csv data file - i couldnt upload a csv file direct - the forum said invalid file

Apparently, you can do a 'simulated' dyno run, by entering car weight etc. I have no idea how well this goes, as I didnt confirm if the output from the speed sensor was working.
(having a laptop running of a power socket sucks)

choonga
24-05-2007, 06:23 PM
Interesting.. Thanks mate!