Okay it is finally happening - now that we have everything worked out computer wise, engine wise and reliability wise on teh turbo magna front (I think I have had everything go wrong in order to get it right) we are finally beginning production on the single turbo kits for teh magna V6 vehicles.

The best part is this is going to be virtually 1/2 of our current twin turbo kit to make life very easy.

The kit will be fitted with a single 300hp garret GT-28 ball bearing turbo although it will be made in a way to be upgradeable to a 340 and 380hp GT-25R turbo as optional in the future.

The kit is going to have the single turbo located between the engine and the firewall - no ugly turbo sitting on top of the gearbox with no room to work around.

For those who have seen the RPW Twin kit, we will be able to use half of our existing intercooler piping with a pipe coming up and around the back of the motor to the front of the car for the intercooler, a singlepipe coming over the top of the gearbox for the air inlet and of course the intercooler and pipe coming up the front to the throttle body.

The virtual differnce is the two extra pipes on the twin kit will be deleted.

We will be using our older "Street Design" header on the front of the vehicle as a partially improved header whihc will then have a pipe going under the sump, and up to the manifold to feed gases from the front banks to the turbo. These are slightly cheaper than the race design headers to make and we are trying to develop a budget system for everyone here.

And again 1/2 of our existing dump pipe off the back of the turbo to the cat converter.

This kit is primarily being developed for automatic vehicles which will never see above 7 - 8 psi boost in fear of destroying there auto transmission.

Manuel owners should see the light and go twin turbo as the transmission will handle as proven high horsepower, and the single smaller turbo's in this setup will quickly run out of puff above 10 psi boost on the big 3.5 v6 engines.

Okay that is the details or outline of the project now what do we need.

Well we were initially going to just hire a magna / borrow one and then make the manifolds, piping etc and not bother running it up and we will still do that if necessary.

But alternativly if someone has some spare money then we will make this kit and place it on the car with a front mounted intercooler similiar to hwat we have on our RPW magna at this moment with the same modified front spoiler kit (Unless you have a different spoiler in mind).

The kit would be fitted labour free and all components at cost price. Tuning of course is a greddy e-manage without a boost controller as it will be only running preset 7 psi boost.

Now the car must be in Perth, and I do not want 300 phone calls. Be honest here - if you do not have at least $5000.00 don't ring me. I will not disclose an exact price at this time- only to the person involved and they on fear of death and maiming will not be allowed to discuss pricing to anyone else. I do need ot make profits and don't want people knowing all my secrets.

So there is the offer - we will need the car for approx 3 weeks all up and I can garauntee a car that will be talked about, very fast and more importantly very reliable

Expected horsepower is around 240hp at the front wheels with very nice throttle response.

Our plan is to start this project 2nd week of February and have it finished 1st week of March in time for some car shows so the owner can do the autosaloon show with the aussie magna car club or speak to me about alternatives.

Okay any questions I am happy to answer of course and this can be a 3.0 vehicle it does not have to be a 3.5 model.

I am keen to finally finish these projects and would love to see another magna tearing up the strip. Be assured of full RPW backing here. We have proven we know what we are doing with Magna vehicles above all other firms, and have already shown our willingness to be a guinie pig to get it all wrong.

Anyway enough of this lets see what people have to say.

P.S I would recomend setting some money aside for a brake upgrade RPW sepcs of course, strut brace and rear sway bar. Trust me you will need it and if y ou want these items we will discuss some special pricing for them at the same time.


David Thomas

Want a 2.6L donor :lol:

Interesting offer....I will contact you

damn i am too poor for this!!!
Do u offer some kind of payment scheme
Would be awesome though, i wish i had the money!

Now that would be a great first ever mod ;)

Way to break into the modding world Dan! 8)

Sorry 2.6 doner we don't need as we are doing a 2.6 turbo conversion right now for another customer which we will have finished in around 6 weeks including motor rebuild and using a mitsubishi TD05H-16G brand new turbo we had in stock although I am making some Garret ball bearing turbo manifolds at the same times whilst I am at it.

hhhmm i would consider this at this price. but not fo at least 6 months. but definayely interested. sorry, pointless post, just thought id express my interest. if u dont get one by march.


Trav

Interesting offer....I will contact you
WICKED!!!!A Single Turboed VR-X Would be Awesome!!!! :D :D :D

pity its in perth :cry:

yeh pity bout the location,
i have the money right now but in gold coast qld
will already have a replacment ecu so would only need all the other stuff

i have to agree... pity bout the whole perth thing... i hear the SA kit is making 450hp out of a single turbo, for $8000 fitted, but by looking at the amount of piping it could be fairly laggy....

Yup. Not only that, with 450hp at the treads you'd torque steer like a little b!@tch, and for 8k you'd want boost to start before you hit 4 grand :D

Can't help that it is in perth - but on the other hand there will be some lucky person in Perth and once the kits are completed we will be able to send them out so yuo won't lose in the long run.

Yup. Not only that, with 450hp at the treads you'd torque steer like a little b!@tch, and for 8k you'd want boost to start before you hit 4 grand :D

yeah i wanna find out more about this beast, i'm going down there to pre-order my 4, 6 and rotary ticket on the 31st, so i might ask a few questions then!

on the topic of the 4 6 and rotary nationals, why not bring the magna dave? definately a good meet if u wanna get publicity

yeah i wanna find out more about this beast, i'm going down there to pre-order my 4, 6 and rotary ticket on the 31st, so i might ask a few questions then!

on the topic of the 4 6 and rotary nationals, why not bring the magna dave? definately a good meet if u wanna get publicity
i agree.

on the topic of rpm - i was thinking about ringing rpm and seeing if the guy with the single turbo magna can also be down there, wouldnt mind getting a few more pictures, etc, etc.

yeah prolly a good idea. i'm sure theres plenty of people on this forum that wouldn't mind looking at the car a bit more.... i wonder if he knows about the forums at all?

unless he wants to keep it a secret......

Love to do the 4, 6 & rotary's but as always it comes down to money and until we fit the larger slicks, larger intercooler and NOS I don't want to do many drags. We are aiming to have the car complete for the upcomnig auto saloon drag wars in April in perth.

Then I can focus on my other galant drag car and at the same time start on teh AWD version.

Then race the AWD in street class and my galant in Super sedan class. Thats the master plan - so maybe next year if finances permit. Its qutie expensive to move cars from perth to the eastern states and backa again unforgtunatly.

alternativly we could start a fund to finance the rpw magna to the drags :D But I doubt that is going to happen :?

if only rpw was located in melbourne.

This V6 turbo kit, of course is to fit the 3rd gen 3.0 and 3.5 models, but can it and/or will it fit the 2nd gen 3.0 litre 12 valve engine????

Love to do the 4, 6 & rotary's but as always it comes down to money and until we fit the larger slicks, larger intercooler and NOS I don't want to do many drags. We are aiming to have the car complete for the upcomnig auto saloon drag wars in April in perth.

Then I can focus on my other galant drag car and at the same time start on teh AWD version.

Then race the AWD in street class and my galant in Super sedan class. Thats the master plan - so maybe next year if finances permit. Its qutie expensive to move cars from perth to the eastern states and backa again unforgtunatly.

alternativly we could start a fund to finance the rpw magna to the drags :D But I doubt that is going to happen :?
Geez Dave,U must have a money Tree or Sumfin :lol: :lol:
Doin a Mint Job So far man,Keep it up ay ;) ;)

on one hand id really like to see cybers performance with the turbo because i have the same car however if there was someone with a AWD vehicle that would be even more interesting .

Geez Dave,U must have a money Tree or Sumfin :lol: :lol:
Doin a Mint Job So far man,Keep it up ay ;) ;)

He does have a money tree, and the leaves are called Clients ;) :lol:

I wish - my galant car I have been building over the last five years and have finally reached the point where I can now put a very powerful engine in it without any fears of breaking gearboxes, differentials etc.

The magna was always a short term project, just never expected it to become this powerful this quickly.

And the only way I can design new things is to take everything to the limit on my own car first which I have done several times now.

This is why I can now manafacture, market and sell a single turbo kit with complete confidence. I guess this is one of the reasons why people buy our products over other firms is that we develop, test and then check them before marketing them.

Time will tell anyway.

Meanwhile still waiting for someone to come to the party as I would hate to make the kit on a car and have to pull it off again and let it sit there.

And no it won't go across to a 12v model but we could make a variation of the kit on a 12v with no drama's but again would need the car in perth.

No noe has come forward yet interested in doing this. Amazing.

I may just have to hire a car and do it on that instead. A shame as it would have been nice to have fitted it to a car and seen it out there running.

dont wanna travel to SA for a while? i'd take out a loan just for that

YER I'D CONSIDER IT TOO.

MAYBE I'M DUE FOR A HOLIDAY IN PERTH ;)

WEll it would be a loverly drive back alhtough you would have to remove your number plates :D

on one hand id really like to see cybers performance with the turbo because i have the same car however if there was someone with a AWD vehicle that would be even more interesting .
If only I had a money Tree :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol:
I'd love to see Cypher's VR-X Done too any news on it yet?

Have people in Perth gone nuts or sumfin, I mean a chance like this comes along only so often people, Dave mate, if you were in Brisvegas you would have your donor car, it is a shame the people in Perth are just to stupid to see a good thing. :x

c'mon perth, come to the party!! :D i wanna see this thing in action, especially after the results of the TT magna!!

Say someone was crazy and wanted to stroke/bore their engine out to 3.8L from 3.5L as a part of this same process, what rough sort of price would we be talking about all up?

I'm keen to start looking at talking to the bank... hmmm

Also, what in the engine bay would change cosmetically after such works where done? ...I always liked the idea of having the ultimate sleeper. :D

Turbo, turbo...

So tempted but concidering my car is still under waranty I might have a hard time explaining the presence of an blower & intercooler under the bonnet. They were kind enough to look the other way when I got that Above standard exaust on it.

By the time it expires your single turbo should be all tester out so I'll keep an eye out.

DAve you sould seriosly consider moving to sydney...
your buisnes would TRIPPLE or more....
i for one woult be a costumer....
think about it...
its worth it..

To be honest I would never leave perth for a packed city like Sydney.

Traffic turns me into a homicidal maniac ready to ram people and I would have to get a 4wd and weld bars around the car just to get to work in one piece.

Additionally I love perth for its laid back easy going nature and very little pollution.

Money isn't everything.

To be honest we would prefer to do this turbo kit on a stock standard motor or a slightly strengthened motor built to standard specs so that we can provide people with some comparisons.

And again - once you turbo the car you will never notice a lack of cubes as such beleive me - the torque improvement is phenominal. No need to broe and stroke the engine. My engine is still stock bore and stroke and I havn't even touched the limit on it yet.

Dave,
I'm sure i'm not the only one out there with similar questions to those bellow, so i've posted them here to save you from having to answer them multiple times:

What would be the payment terms for such modifications/work?

$5000.00 you say.... payment made upon completion of work and customer satisfaction?

What about the warranty on parts and installation, would just the standard 12 mths / 20,000km warranty that RPW advertise on their website apply or would this be extended for the test car???

Any discount offered for those willing to open there vehicle up to have huge RPW decals/vinyl splashed down the sides etc as a form of advertisement?

Dave,
If freight wasn't too much would you consider a car from QLD that you could have as long as you needed?? and when you are all finished just freight back or I could just fly there and drive it back. :D
any ideas of cost of freighting a car from north qld to perth???

Dave,
If freight wasn't too much would you consider a car from QLD that you could have as long as you needed?? and when you are all finished just freight back or I could just fly there and drive it back. :D
any ideas of cost of freighting a car from north qld to perth???

too much.

it would cost me $980 one way from alice to perth via TNT car carrying.
i was gonna take it over there to visit you guys, and *though* it would be cheaper shipping the car and flying over.

Hmmm too good to resist keeping up with and maybe beating V8s and rexes with a magna, mild 98 to wild 98!

Hmmm too good to resist keeping up with and maybe beating V8s and rexes with a magna, mild 98 to wild 98!

you dont need a blower to beat V8's :roll:
just do all the mods you can to that engine N/A

a) earns more praise as you havnt "cheated"
b) cheaper to insure by fare
c) driveability is a lot better

i for one, would appreciated a 300kw N/A magna then a 300kw Tubro/Twinturbo... what ever floats ya boat really, but N/A is the way to go!

as you said, each to their own but I cant think of any n/a 300kw 6cyl engines?! 265 Charger maybe? (which is a big 4.3 litre), and to get anywhere around there would need stage 3 cam and there goes the drivability at low speed with a too fast lumpy idle, and even mild cams on 6's in the past ive used on old GTR torana and S valiants have made them drink like 8's.
for me a bit of lag in a turbo with auto is ok bec for normal driving it wont pick me up a fine a day and the mrs wont accidentally slam it through the wall of woolies with a slight blip on the throttle.

Either way eventualy you'll hit top end.

Like a friend of mine once told me. "You can only go so far until you start breaking shit everywhere"

He Should Know, He tunes all sorts of crazy crap.

At 300KW you have to start To change 3/4 of the car.

Full Suspension Change
Modified Engine Components Along With Heavy Duty Trans/Clutch
Some Cases Even Body Strenghtening As I've Seen Car Frames Warp.

Anytime You Mod A Car You've Taken It Beyond What It Was Built And Designed For, Therfore It Might Act Eratic.

Like Most Modified Datsuns, Must Of Those lil Bugger Go Mental.

I Work At Holden And I've heard alot of stories, like how that new AWD system broke everything on the pilots.

I wonder what an exploding transmission sounds like :badgrin:

Oh And on that note about Staying N/A

Even the V8 grunties go supercharged when they mod, Then again if you have a V12 I don't think staying N/A could hurt! :lol:

Yeah I was about to post that actually.. lol

A high powered n/a 300+hp would be almost undriveable below 3000rpm due to it's cam work etc

WEll the good news is people that we now have not one but two test cars.
We will be in the 1st week of April modifying two Magna vehicles.

One 3.0 with our single turbo kit planning on 7 psi boost to max out around 200kw at the flywheel

One 3.5 with our single turbo kit planning on 5 psi to max out around 200kw at the flywheel.

Both are auto models which is great for all you auto owners.

Why 200kw - because that is what I feel is teh safe limit for the auto transmission without breaking things. Both vehicles will be using the Greddy E-Manage system, front mounted intercooler, single Garret GT-28 320hp turbo etc

This is all very exciting and when they are all finished we are going to go down to the drags on a wednesday night and have some fun.

Whilst the power output at the wheels will be the same, the torque on teh 3.5 should be a lot higher.

We will take lots of photos and keep everyone up to date

One of the owners has asked not to be named as he wishes to surprise everyone although I do not think that will last for long as someone will scope him out :badgrin:

Dave,
If you answer my earlier queries you may have a second 3.5L Auto (with looks to match the grunt) to play with also... now hurry up and answer my questions. :D

If you wish PM me the answers or alternatively feel free to email them to: akko@westnet.com.au

Thanks.

Payment terms are $1 - $2k deposit up front with balance on completion of job.

Job satisfaction garaunteed - if you don't have a smile I would be surprised :D

Warranty is 12sec / 20 feet (Out of driveway :D j/k) yes but dependant upon cause of failure. Smashed pistons - obvious over boosting / bad fuel etc. We would be very conservitive on teh tuning to ensure that we try to counter all possibilities.

No furhte discounts no as this is already heavily discounted.
We have the two cars already so at this stage I would have to say that we have to limit it at 2 cars. BUt if one of them does pull out then I will let you know and you can be the third person on the list to replace them. One of the people is organising finance.

For those who were interested I am sorry but we have been waiting a long time for someone to offer there car and then in the space of 1 hour we have had four people offering and have now accepted two of them.

If anyone drops out as said earlier I will people know.

so 200kw at the fly, or around 200hp at the wheels??


surely 5grand on N/A mods would gain the same power/if not more power.

most of the cars here specially the 3.5L engines would crank around 160hp at the wheels, and the 3.0L engines be around 140hp at the treads.

would the extra insruance now that your 'turbo' justified for a extra 70hp at the wheels max??

:arrow:

I had better clarify something here as I can see how things are going so lets get this out in the open before we do anything else - and this is specifically directed to Booya.

I am not Pro Turbo specifically over N/A vehicles. In fact I have more respoect for an N/A vehicle than anyone especially in the fact that I have specialised in modifying N/A vehicles for most of my career.

I dragged a 2.6 Galant with twin webers and high compression down to 12.8 down the quartermile against V8 commodores and falcons for years. I have built more cars with N/A mods than I ever would with turbo vehicles so I think I can say I know how to modify, the results from modifying, how it works and the side effects of modifying any N/A car.

I have also been fortunate enough to have some turbo cars in my past AKA Cordia Turbo stock and modified to my now twin turbo magna.
I have never knocked a N/A magna vehicle and I know they have plenty of potential. In fact I looked at running a 3.5 DOHC N/A engine in my Galant at one stage but am going turbo simply for the fact I can use moreof my existing setup and do it cheaper.

The point being that I do not promote turbo's over N/A setups specifically. They each have there role to play and all do well. Booya has done particularly well with his N/A magna with the 3.0 down to 15's which I beleive everyone appreciates.

But here is where the difference between turbo vehicles and N/A vehicles seperate.

A highly modified N/A car (And remember you are talking here to the person who developed individual throttle bodies for V6 mitsubishi's in race cars etc) are great for high horsepower but they have no torque. THey are a natural revver (My galant revved to 9000rpm but had no torque under 4500 rpm with 180hp at the rear wheels).

They are great fun to drive and I love them. BUt again dollar for dollar value Turbo V N/A car the turbo will win every time for one reason alone.

TORQUE.

Quite simply why forced induction works is because it not only creates horsepower but it creates globs of torque. Torque is the pulling power and the ability of the motor to pull from low rpm to high rpm in all gears.

Now back to the origonal comment $5K on a magna N/A Versus Turbo.

Without a doubt 200kw is around 200hp at the wheels but the torque will be up around 70% over stock. This is where the turbo will win.

I guess what I am particularly saying though, and again to Booya is to calm down a bit and just look at what you are writing and doing. Everything you are doing is coming across as that you know everything, we are wasting our money modifying our car if we don't do it like your car, why waste your money on a turbo :(
THis is extreme but I am trying to make a point here - your previous post was out of line to be honest because it was made with no experience on the alternatives.

I have been on both ends of the scale, race both ends and can give an honest anwer to both options.

If I sound peeved, then I apologise. But I am getting a little sick of being picked at around the edges lately by everyone and every now and then I blow my stack.

im sorry if it sounded like i was attacking you. i wasnt.

i was just trying to feed my own rivers of information, which you have answered. its not all horse power. torque is the factor i was forgetting ](*,)

i didnt want you to get to the point where you blow ya self up, but mearly, just placing the figures (200kw/200hp) i just wanted to know what was behind that.

and of course, torque is what i left out of the sums #-o

sorry if i came at ya a bit hard dave, no flaming/beating was intended.

No problems Booya :D As said sometimes I tend to get defensive for which I apologise for. :oops:

BUt wanted to get the idea across early as so many people get so many wrong idea's and I definitly want people to know that RPW is not about getting horsepower by just bolting a turbo on.

We will always be concentrating on N/A modifications as the reality is that 90% of the customer base want to remain N/A for insurance and other purposes and that is where also the greatest profit is as well.

Turbo conversion are great and you get to see some fast cars but it is only 1% of the modification fields.

As always I want people to be informed of all options before making a decision. Its too much money to spend and then decide you spent it the wrong way. :D

looks like someone finally put booya in his place :badgrin: jk man :lol:

We will always be concentrating on N/A modifications as the reality is that 90% of the customer base want to remain N/A for insurance and other purposes and that is where also the greatest profit is as well.

Turbo conversion are great and you get to see some fast cars but it is only 1% of the modification fields.

What about the other 9%? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just a few questions reguarding these conversions.. :D

Are you upgrading the injectors at all?....If not at what hp do they max out?

Do you retain the NA Comp ratio with the turbo upgrades?

And why do you run Twin turbo, rather than a cheaper bigger single....?

Cheers

Yes the kits will have larger injectors fitted as pre all of our turbo kits and controlled by the greddy which has an injector option built into it.

Yes we will be retaining on these cars the stock compression ratio as they are only running low boost.

These kits are definitly a budget kit for the auto models where we do not recomend running more than 200kw to 220kw at the flywheel as I know the minute you try to do more than this the trans will blow.

The reason being the max size turbo we are gonig to be able to run with this system Ie single turbo system is 380hp turbo due to room constraints.

The twin turbo starts with two 200hp turbos Ie 400hp and then can go up to 600hp, 700hp and on from there.

I would like to think of it this way

Single turbo kit - budget option for auto owners and manuel owners

Twin Turbo kit - only for manuel owners and for higher horsepower applications.

The twin turbo kit can go onto the auto model but would requie some very serious modifications in order to handle the torque output. THe manuel boxes are just so much stronger - I still can't kill mine.

The stock 300hp turbo is the perfect size for a max of 10 psi on the 3.5 engine which will hit 300hp at the flywheel quite easily. The two larger turbo upgrades being a 340 and 380hp turbo will allow up to around a 14 psi max before it runs uot of puff.

As you can see my intention here is not to produce a kit that gives out phenominal horsepower levels. It is designed so that the majority of magna owners can place a good solid reliable kit on there car, pick up 40 - 60hp a the wheels with a massive kick in torque and not start damaging transmissions.

There are upgradeable options but this starts requiring internal engine mods to strengthen pistons and decompressing which starts getting costly.

Dave - The person with that single turbo magna said the automatic gearbox (maybe only the sports, i dont know) was stronger than the manual gearbox.

I think he said the automatic gearbox used is the same as the 3000gt twin turbo hence its strength.

unless he doesn't know much about magnas... maybe he's going on the generalistion that most automatics are stronger than manuals (which in a lot of cases, they are) but i know some1 that blew up a TH Auto with a stock magna (except for muffler and T/B) and plenty of hard driving.... i haven't heard of anyone blowing up a magna manual yet.... and i'm sure plenty of people have given them hell ... geezz... booya, how many times u crunched gears on the gold beast? :D :lol: :D :lol: :D

I suspected the auto is the same unit that was in the older models starting with the 4 cyls, it does feel to struggle coping with added power on full throttle up and downshifts. Does anyone know if this is the case, and if they are built at the adelaide plant along with the engines? Also is the tiptronic 5 sp basically the same unit and is it any stronger?

And Im sure booya is right that around 200kw at the fly from is achievable from these V6's in N/A as im getting around 165-170 kw from a 3.0 without having upgraded rear muffler which is good for 6kw or cams which should give another 10-15% or about 20Kw. Overall around 190Kw I would expect for the 3.0 and around 200Kw for the 3.5, Im interested to know if anyone has done their cams and how they drive?

as you said, each to their own but I cant think of any n/a 300kw 6cyl engines?! 265 Charger maybe?
TVR 400R ~ 308kW (4L 6cyl)
TVR 440R ~ 338kW (4.2L 6cyl)

Engine:
6-cylinder inline alloy engine with 4 valves per cylinder and dry sump lubrication

Capacity: 3996 cc (this is wrong as they quote it as a 4.2L somewhere else)
Max Power: 440 bhp @ 7600 rpm
Max torque: 350 ft.lbs @ 6000 rpm

none of the current TVR's are turbo... i love the tamora though... 3.6L ~270kW in a 1000kg mx5 sized 4.4sec 0-100 rocket!!


oh, now back to the topic.... oh yeah, turbo vs NA.... and auto boxes.... i doubt the turbo guy knows whats in his gear box... he didn't even know what exhaust he had!!!

Dave - The person with that single turbo magna said the automatic gearbox (maybe only the sports, i dont know) was stronger than the manual gearbox.

I think he said the automatic gearbox used is the same as the 3000gt twin turbo hence its strength.

i liek to see that i have not herd many manual boxes blowing up due to hard driving thrashing burnouts etc i have herd plenty of autos blowing may be fine now wait 6 months see what its still going like i put my money a manual gear box will up hold a lot more hp kw longer than auto trans

ps i only blew my diff not the gear box it self

Dave - The person with that single turbo magna said the automatic gearbox (maybe only the sports, i dont know) was stronger than the manual gearbox.

I think he said the automatic gearbox used is the same as the 3000gt twin turbo hence its strength.

He wouldn't have used the 3000gt gearbox, it's the wrong way around.

I was reading in jan 04 Motor an article on the improvements to the AWD Magna with the new model inproving economy, it said the MANUAL box is the same as that used on a GT,

correction sorry, I think that might have been manual box on AWD is same as on EVO GT, dont know if that thing is Lancer or GT.

correction sorry, I think that might have been manual box on AWD is same as on EVO GT, dont know if that thing is Lancer or GT.from memory its an older version EVO... maybe a 6... can't remember (though i thought it was a GSR? :? )
argh, i'm confused... better go to uni... :(

yeah i read somewhere that the AWD trans is from some sort of evo

Good to see you got the cars you needed Dave, I wanna see these cars kick some arse in the drags!!! :badgrin:

The AWD transmission is an EVO IV auto trans given to company executives in the land of the rising sun was the information I received.

They detune teh cars to around 180kw to run the auto trans because they don't want them to blow over there - the question we have to ask is why did they then fit them to a larger engine over here with nearly as much power and torque?

I know its cost cutting but surely it would not ahve been hard for them to offer a manuel as well.

Anyway Regardless of what everyone else does - as long as RPW is tuning a magna we will limit all auto's to only 200kw at the flywheel unless the person is prepared to sign a waver if he wants over that hp range. Then I am more than happy to run as much power as they want :D

The AWD transmission is an EVO IV auto trans given to company executives in the land of the rising sun was the information I received.

They detune teh cars to around 180kw to run the auto trans because they don't want them to blow over there - the question we have to ask is why did they then fit them to a larger engine over here with nearly as much power and torque?

It's either one of the two following answers:

A) They're dickheads.
or
B) They didn't research the auto gearboxes potential fully and detuned it for the sake of reducing the risk of overworking the auto, for some odd reason.

It'll be interesting to see if they will continue to use the AWD with the 2005 Magna. Hopefully, they will have developed a more-robust system to 'cope' with an increased power demand (be it twin-turbos, supercharger or a worked naturally aspirated engine).