Well boys, I said I'd do it and I have.

http://web.aanet.com.au/naa/te.jpg

I haven't modded the ring on the back for the horn yet, as I just wanted to get it on. Looks nice and feels even better. Thank god the old TR wheels is gone.

Anyone want to buy a good condition TR steering wheel? :P

Yep, makes the steering feel alot lighter.
Also retains the factory look.

but IMO for the early 90's era the TR steering wheel feels gret to those along the lines of early holdens and fords...

Oh i know _X_FiReStOrM_x_ And M4DDOG has this done too (when M4DDOG had his old car im pretty sure)

Haha glad to see that it all fitted well. Enjoy my old wheel bud! :D

Nice. Way better than the stock TS steering wheel that came on those crummy early 90's lancers.

Way to go! Woo! :D

Lookin' sharp!

I want to touch it

Love it, now I need to do this, im sick of my stock one!


anyone selling a steering wheel that will fit a TR msg me

Love it, now I need to do this, im sick of my stock one!


anyone selling a steering wheel that will fit a TR msg me
Aye why don't you get a KS verada one? There's heaps at spare parts places. They look good :D

Has anyone actually successfully modded the 3rd gen wheel to get the horn to work??

lol u hadnt got ur horn to work?? (btw looks tops! i was gonna do this too but now i cant..) thought it be just the same as the 2nd gen steering wheel..?

if not, hav one of those air horn cans sittin in ur car :)

if not, hav one of those air horn cans sittin in ur car :)

Thats what i had for a while when i put my 3rd gen wheel on. lol

Mine's been sitting here unfinished for the past few months, another unfinished project...
But almost certain it can work, as the following pics should indicate. First one shows the ring of the 3rd-gen wheel, with a blank space inside of it. 2nd pic shows a 2nd-gen ring almost fitting neatly in this space, with a little modification of either the ring or the plastic (plastic probably easier), it should fit like it was made for it! Then just make an electrical connection from this ring to the original one; the spade-connector thing should slot through an existing gap, and pretty-much line up with the existing connectors.

To do: re-drill and glue the top of my new wheel (has come unstuck, so twists on the metal), and finish embedding a large chrome tri-diamond in the pad, ala 380s etc.

Has anyone actually successfully modded the 3rd gen wheel to get the horn to work??

You do not mod the wheel! DO NOT MOD A STEERING WHEEL!

Get the round part from the SE or Verada and modify the wiring in the wheel

My KR had the crusie and the horn working off the wheel with no dramas

I found that my legs touch the steering wheel on my TR, so i purchased a saas sports wheel
with the flat bottom and it looks great and its more responsive to drive.

i really like the ts airbag wheel, looks a tonne better than the standard and fits in with the interior perfect

i really like the ts airbag wheel, looks a tonne better than the standard and fits in with the interior perfect
zomg! worst wheel ever!


and yes, DO NOT MOD A STEERING WHEEL! madmagna is dead on there. its illegal to mad a steering wheel in any way i think too.

anyone post a pic of TS airbag wheel?

here it is

That wheel isn't THAT bad. I'm a tad worried about using this wheel with no horn because I've needed to use the horn a few times now and couldn't. The jap/US spec diamantes, the three spoked ones, are they on any aussy magnas (veradas) ??

I've needed to use the horn a few times now and couldn't.


just use the finger and head out the window method. often works better :bowrofl:

just use the finger and head out the window method. often works better :bowrofl:

That requires stupid people to actually look in the rear-vision mirrors though. One dude I came across was going at a crawl over a painted island and I didn't know wtf he was going, luckily i didn't pass because it was into my lane. that was on some road that merges on to turbot street in basically the middle of Brisbane city.. I wonder if he made it out alive..

What I'm talking about isn't a structural mod of the wheel at all, there is no change to any of the wheel's structural integrity or performance characteristics. It simply makes use of the existing empty ring space, which is not in any way connected to the structure of the wheel and does not in any way impede movement, collapse, et al.

So why not go the easy way and use the clock spring from the SE/Verada, it plugs right in, gives all features and is a lot quicker and neater than cutting up a steering wheel for an average result

So why not go the easy way and use the clock spring from the SE/Verada, it plugs right in, gives all features and is a lot quicker and neater than cutting up a steering wheel for an average result

Explain..

You do not mod the wheel! DO NOT MOD A STEERING WHEEL!

Get the round part from the SE or Verada and modify the wiring in the wheel

My KR had the crusie and the horn working off the wheel with no dramas

Madmagna is right. i have done this and just put the steering wheel on with no dramas at all.
And both my horn and cruise work fine!!!!

ummm...just quietly guys, if you don't have a horn your car is unroadworthy. I'm pretty sure if you are in an accident, it'll be your fault no matter what if they find out you didn't have a horn..eg so-and-so could've warned i was gonna side swipe him by using his horn etc etc...

just some food for thought.

ummm...just quietly guys, if you don't have a horn your car is unroadworthy. I'm pretty sure if you are in an accident, it'll be your fault no matter what if they find out you didn't have a horn..eg so-and-so could've warned i was gonna side swipe him by using his horn etc etc...

just some food for thought.


Uhh yeah which is why i'm trying to find a way to fix it. I might do what RoGuE_StreaK has said and put my old ring from the 2nd gen wheel ontop of the 3rd gen's ring on the back of the wheel.

Uhh yeah which is why i'm trying to find a way to fix it. I might do what RoGuE_StreaK has said and put my old ring from the 2nd gen wheel ontop of the 3rd gen's ring on the back of the wheel.

wasn't havin a go at you champ, just i know there's a few people here that run without a horn :P

wasn't havin a go at you champ, just i know there's a few people here that run without a horn :P

Lamest thing to do ever. As soon as you do something like that the ********s come out of the woodwork and screw with you, it's like somehow they know.

So why not go the easy way and use the clock spring from the SE/Verada, it plugs right in, gives all features and is a lot quicker and neater than cutting up a steering wheel for an average result
Maybe we are talking about different wheels here; the Verada clock springs that I have seen would not match up to anything on the 3rd-gen wheel that I have, and would require even more work to get coupled together?
With "my" method, there actually isn't any cutting involved at all, unless you narrow the plastic strip between the rings as opposed to grinding the 2nd-gen brass ring itself. Either way requires the removal of only around 1mm of material. Both would pretty-much require the same tool (cheap "dremel"-type rotary, $30 from Dick Smith), though the plastic could alternatively be melted away with a soldering iron. Once the ring is in place, melting plastic in a similar manner to the stock 3rd-gen ring's mount would also help secure it's position.

Lamest thing to do ever. As soon as you do something like that the ********s come out of the woodwork and screw with you, it's like somehow they know.

you mean the people without horns? or the person you potentially run into? Im confused :S

wow ts airbag wheel worst ever? you truly have no taste, beats the ugly standard one and most stupid ricer aftermarket wheels, plus has an airbag...
uhh... i think the wheel nick bought was one that doesnt have the airbag

EDIT: and do u kno how hard it would be to install an airbag kit onto a car that didnt come with an airbag?

Maybe we are talking about different wheels here; the Verada clock springs that I have seen would not match up to anything on the 3rd-gen wheel that I have, and would require even more work to get coupled together?
With "my" method, there actually isn't any cutting involved at all, unless you narrow the plastic strip between the rings as opposed to grinding the 2nd-gen brass ring itself. Either way requires the removal of only around 1mm of material. Both would pretty-much require the same tool (cheap "dremel"-type rotary, $30 from Dick Smith), though the plastic could alternatively be melted away with a soldering iron. Once the ring is in place, melting plastic in a similar manner to the stock 3rd-gen ring's mount would also help secure it's position.

Wrong mate, have done it.

All third gens have a clock spring, both abs and non abs, crusie and non cruise.

The clock spring screws onto the front of the combo switch, in the execs you simply remove the clip and the rod for the horn, screw the clock spring on and plug it in. You then get the wiring from a second gen and modify it slightly to fit the hron wiring.

I have done several and yes I do know what I am talking about! (hey Nicole :) )

Well I "modified" my steering wheel, Yes thats right, you read right. Modified. Totally. The modification included 1 brass ring from a 2nd gen steering wheel, 1 'super-dooper' Tiger-grip all weather glue and 1 2nd gen vehicle.

So I got a flat-head screw driver, levered the brass ring out, it just popped out with little to zero effort at all, snipped the long bend on it off (not cutting the brass ring but the other mild steel extension on it), grabbed the glue, sat the 2nd gen brass ring down ontop of the 3rd gen wheel (Make sure they're touching to make the circuit), glue'd the inside and outsides of both rings together making sure to not fowl on the area that will be used (anyone who can draw within the lines can do this, just don't go crazy), let it set (couple of hours) and then chucked the wheel back on, working.

Anyone who calls this 'modifying' like has been said a few times in this thread is an idiot, this is not modifying but building as I'm adding to the wheel, not subtracting or changing any shapes or structures. Now to find a Cressida horn and put that on. Done.

Well I "modified" my steering wheel, Yes thats right, you read right. Modified. Totally. The modification included 1 brass ring from a 2nd gen steering wheel, 1 'super-dooper' Tiger-grip all weather glue and 1 2nd gen vehicle.

So I got a flat-head screw driver, levered the brass ring out, it just popped out with little to zero effort at all, snipped the long bend on it off (not cutting the brass ring but the other mild steel extension on it), grabbed the glue, sat the 2nd gen brass ring down ontop of the 3rd gen wheel (Make sure they're touching to make the circuit), glue'd the inside and outsides of both rings together making sure to not fowl on the area that will be used (anyone who can draw within the lines can do this, just don't go crazy), let it set (couple of hours) and then chucked the wheel back on, working.

Anyone who calls this 'modifying' like has been said a few times in this thread is an idiot, this is not modifying but building as I'm adding to the wheel, not subtracting or changing any shapes or structures. Now to find a Cressida horn and put that on. Done.

i agree...this aint modding it.i know thisbecaue Ive sent y car twiceforrawrthy, and neither of theguys have picke up that its a wheel that never should have come with a TR model. The first guy was a real prick too!really pedantic...so if he didnt pick up on it, it cant b that illegal.

...so if he didnt pick up on it, it cant b that illegal.

theres rocket science for u...

i agree...this aint modding it.i know thisbecaue Ive sent y car twiceforrawrthy, and neither of theguys have picke up that its a wheel that never should have come with a TR model. The first guy was a real prick too!really pedantic...so if he didnt pick up on it, it cant b that illegal.

The fact that he didn't see it or not does not confirm or object to it's legality. The real test is letting someone know about it, say, the mechanic giving the road worthy and if he wants to squeeze some work out of you or doesn't like you he might not pass it but ringing around and getting some answers will. Probably an engineer would be the best bet as most mechanics wouldn't know if it wasn't in their little booklet.

what they don't know can't hurt. I have got the Evo 1 steering wheel in my TS. its basically a momo wheel that comes with a center pad to cover the exposed metal. the pad pops on and off really easily. the centre pad also has the mitsi symbol on it so the cops do look twice but once they see the mitsi symbol then its all good.

what they don't know can't hurt. I have got the Evo 1 steering wheel in my TS. its basically a momo wheel that comes with a center pad to cover the exposed metal. the pad pops on and off really easily. the centre pad also has the mitsi symbol on it so the cops do look twice but once they see the mitsi symbol then its all good.

So your saying that they have no clue that legally and by law, an airbag is supposed to be fitted in the steering wheel of your TS, whether it be for inspection or a cop pulls you over. So the Mitsibishi symbol is all they look at. Just looking at your pics, its obvious that an airbag could not be fitted imto the Evo steering wheel.

So your saying that they have no clue that legally and by law, an airbag is supposed to be fitted in the steering wheel of your TS, whether it be for inspection or a cop pulls you over. So the Mitsibishi symbol is all they look at. Just looking at your pics, its obvious that an airbag could not be fitted imto the Evo steering wheel.

Is it meant to have an airbag? The one that was in it when i bought it didn't, or my other ts before that.

anyway, what i'm saying is that unless you are being a wanker about the fact that you were pulled over the cops (in my experence anyway) don't really look to hard. the fact that it has the mitsi symbol on it means that its either a genuine item that has been put into a mitsubishi car by the maker and therefore safe, if not totally legal, or its a expensive little mod that i'm sure most people wont do. if you make wise**** comments then they tend to look a bit harder. In SA we don't have "inspections" unless you get defected, so i don't know how they work or how hard they look. My GSR went through a major defect check with that steering wheel on it so i assume its ok

That has explained a lot, if there are no inspections for rego renewals. That steering mod would not last very long in NSW, especially when inspected for rego renewal. If the guy passes the inspection and your car is defected afterwards, then the RTA would be notified, and there would be a good chance for the guy who inspected the car, would receive a very hefty fine, loose his inspection license and loose a lot of $$$ because of it. Either you would have to admit that the mod was done after the inspection, so nothing happens to the inspection guy, or you say that it was fitted at time of inspection, so the guy would be in big trouble.

That has explained a lot, if there are no inspections for rego renewals. That steering mod would not last very long in NSW, especially when inspected for rego renewal. If the guy passes the inspection and your car is defected afterwards, then the RTA would be notified, and there would be a good chance for the guy who inspected the car, would receive a very hefty fine, loose his inspection license and loose a lot of $$$ because of it. Either you would have to admit that the mod was done after the inspection, so nothing happens to the inspection guy, or you say that it was fitted at time of inspection, so the guy would be in big trouble.


And your point in trying to flame Doug??? in QLD we don't have "rego renewal" inspections and if any state does then I'm positive Doug's steering wheel would pass, It was a genuine Mitsubishi Steering wheel which means it would've been roadworthy for the EVO's and legally all wheels must be a MINIMUM of 350mm in diameter which means Doug would have no problem with a roadworthy as his wheel, although not stock, is a roadworthy modification small enough to not require an engineers certificate.

To be honest, if I took my car to an inspection and it passed then I got defected and the defected item was found to be illegal then by all means the person running the inspection station and the inspector themselves should be fined. After all, I may have not known that an item was illegal and unsafe and they had just let me out hot to trot and I could've killed someone or been killed. I have zero sympathy for someone who isn't doing their job properly.

Your car doesn't have to be bog stock to pass a roadworthy check, it just has to be modified within the laws of your state. Don't be an ass Ozz.

If his car had no airbag from factory then he's fine:nuts:
They came out mandatory in 96:doubt:

I also have twin MX83 Cressida horns now. Woot. Horn-blowing with class.

I also have twin MX83 Cressida horns now. Woot. Horn-blowing with class.

how do they sound?
Cause i want my horns to scream GTFO NOW ****WIT
Not my lil ***** horn that says "that was not nice, i am now going to overtake slowly...you bad man"

']how do they sound?
Cause i want my horns to scream GTFO NOW ****WIT
Not my lil ***** horn that says "that was not nice, i am now going to overtake slowly...you bad man"

ROFL! i agree...2nd gen horns jst dnt cut it!...

So your saying that they have no clue that legally and by law, an airbag is supposed to be fitted in the steering wheel of your TSAs stated, WTF?:nuts:
Very few TS's had airbags, relatively speaking. Way less than 1 in 20 of the ones I have seen.

And your point in trying to flame Doug??? in QLD we don't have "rego renewal" inspections and if any state does then I'm positive Doug's steering wheel would pass, It was a genuine Mitsubishi Steering wheel which means it would've been roadworthy for the EVO's and legally all wheels must be a MINIMUM of 350mm in diameter which means Doug would have no problem with a roadworthy as his wheel, although not stock, is a roadworthy modification small enough to not require an engineers certificate.

To be honest, if I took my car to an inspection and it passed then I got defected and the defected item was found to be illegal then by all means the person running the inspection station and the inspector themselves should be fined. After all, I may have not known that an item was illegal and unsafe and they had just let me out hot to trot and I could've killed someone or been killed. I have zero sympathy for someone who isn't doing their job properly.

Your car doesn't have to be bog stock to pass a roadworthy check, it just has to be modified within the laws of your state. Don't be an ass Ozz.

Hey Nick, I'm not trying to flame Doug or anyone else. However Nick, sounds like I did a good job on you. After 28 yrs with the NSW DMT/RTA, in registration and licensing, I have some credibility to say what I have said. I'm speaking about the laws that are enforced in NSW regarding any modification to any motor vehicle. Off hand I cannot give you the exact date, but all vehicles registered in NSW in the early to mid 1990's and after had to have a drivers airbag fitted. NSW is the most stringent State with the Australian Design Rules. I think Holden was the first local maker to introduce a driver's airbag on the 1993 VR Commodore. 1st Jan. 1996, ADR 69 was ammended to include driver protection airbags. For your info Nick, here is the Vehicle Standrads Information Sheet when modifying a car within NSW.
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi06.pdf

As stated, WTF?:nuts:
Very few TS's had airbags, relatively speaking. Way less than 1 in 20 of the ones I have seen.

Well I must be the 1 in 20 to have an airbag fitted. My TS 3.0 was manufactured in Apr,2005.

Edit: Where the TS was different was the equipment lists. The V6 was now available in the SE in addition to the Executive. All Magnas now came with central locking and height adjusters on the front seats. ABS and driver's airbag (at a $990 price each) became available as options across the V6 range. The SE also came fitted with an immobiliser as standard equipment.

Ok, lets get back on track here so this thread does not get locked or deleted.....

In relation to the wheel, my main point is why go to all the trouble of an inferior mod when with 4 screws you can set it up right in the first place????:nuts:

If I am an idiot for stating that you modded your wheel then so be it, the many people I have worked on cars for will only trust me to work on them for a good reason, I know what I am doing.

Ozzcaddy has a point, you can not remove an airbag wheel from any car where an airbag has been fitted. If you do you are not only breaking the law but an idiot as it is there for a reason. I will point out however that until the end of the TS series the airbags were optional.

Just because it has not been picked up now does not mean it will not be later and believe it or not simply adding that ring may change the dynamics of that wheen in a crash thus the reason why a steering wheel must not be modified. If it does not bold oin don't use it....simple

Hey Mal, do you have any diagrams or photos of what you mean? I still couldn't corelate what you were saying with what I was seeing, but that said I don't have access to the car the wheel came off, and haven't actually taken my wheel off to fully study it. Just going on recollection from the wrecks I have crawled through.

I think the talk of clock springs has been confusing me, the 3rd gen I got the wheel off had the same simple spring-loaded rod as my exec does, just spaced out wider, rather than the ratcheting plug-in assembly (which I take as "clock spring") featured on the 2nd gens with cruise / airbags / audio controls. And that was the only 3rd gen assembly I've had a look at, so I don't know how it compares, and wasn't paying close attention.

where did u get it and how much?...

where did u get it and how much?...

get what for what?

get what for what?The steering wheel:P

Purchased from Magnatised (another member on here, see the third or fourth post on this thread and do the math). $40 i think, or maybe $50.. can't remember!

Sorry to put on the mining helmet here, but I just trawled through this thread trying to find answers to my questions and all I've found is classic AMC flame wars, moving on though, I have a third gen wheel and I want my horn to work, I've seen Rogue's modification and contemplated doing it that way, however Mal says a simple modification of 'four screws' is the key to getting the horn to work...

This confuses me, I just want my horn to work and I gather all I need is a metal ring where the contacts are supposed to go!

Can someone shed any light? Nick? Rogue? Mal? Doug?

Don't look at me, I still haven't done mine, and I couldn't relate what Mal was saying to what I was seeing.

I think veradagirl's horn works, and he cruise control... shes got a TH sports steering wheel on a kr xi

Yes, Veradagirl has a working set up, I sold her the wheel.

I also have sold another one over here in Vic.

I will get some pics when I am at the wrecker some time and will make up a how to.

If there is any one if Vic who wants it done, I am happy to do it for a person and then can take pics of the process, was very easy last time.

Yes my horn work and my Cruise.

the only thing that happens on my cruise is it's the opposite to to set it think it's down instead of up.

Mal explained how to put it on to my partner and he had it fitted in about 15 mins.

Okay... So can anyone actually tell me what to do to remedy the lack-of-horn? I don't need a picture how-to, I know my way around the wheel I think, all I need is just a helping hand on what I'm supposed to be looking for to insert into the wheel, what vehicle it's from etc...

Cheers :)

Okay... So can anyone actually tell me what to do to remedy the lack-of-horn? I don't need a picture how-to, I know my way around the wheel I think, all I need is just a helping hand on what I'm supposed to be looking for to insert into the wheel, what vehicle it's from etc...

Cheers :)

Mate, if you can not work it out from the explainations in this thread, most of which have been repeated several times, you need pics!

Mate, if you can not work it out from the explainations in this thread, most of which have been repeated several times, you need pics!

Weerrrrrrrrd.

My way is "wrong" but ****, it works and works FINE.

I took the old brass ring off the back of my TR wheel and glued it to the 3rd gen wheel, made sure they were both touching (well, perhaps even wrap some wire around it to make extra contact as well as security) and put it back on, working like a charm.

Weerrrrrrrrd.

My way is "wrong" but ****, it works and works FINE.

I took the old brass ring off the back of my TR wheel and glued it to the 3rd gen wheel, made sure they were both touching (well, perhaps even wrap some wire around it to make extra contact as well as security) and put it back on, working like a charm.
Thank you Nick! That was what I was looking for.

Thank you Nick! That was what I was looking for.

Join the "Wrong" team, maybe we can name ourselves.. "Team Bad People Who Mod Steering Wheels The Wrong Way".. It kinda rolls off the tongue..

Join the "Wrong" team, maybe we can name ourselves.. "Team Bad People Who Mod Steering Wheels The Wrong Way".. It kinda rolls off the tongue..
I finally got around to it, and I joined "Team Bad People Who Mod Steering Wheels The Wrong Way"

I fitted the second gen horn ring on top and secured it with some quicksteel epoxy steel resin, works a treat and I don't see how this could possibly hinder any steering effectiveness.