I haven't seen anything (Then again theres like 1,000,000 threads and posts about CAI haha)


Anyway my idea is:

I am thinking about creating a CAI that goes to the air box and runs where battery is, and removing the headlight and creating a custom inlet (Trumpet style) that goes where the head light and indicator go. Will remove current air filter and will clip straight in where air filter goes (then standard air box). Will put fly wire and then lightly oil soaked foam padding type filter (Thin so collects dirt and bugs but allow high air flow (higher than K&N).


Basically my idea is to use this set up to force air in once the car is moving down the 1/4 mile. But I don't know how well its going to work/if it's going to improve performance (Will use high octane fuel)

Have made dodgy pic of how it will look lol. Hopefully it makes sense

Edit: Btw this is for 3rd gen :P

you wanna make a ram air intake, like some motorbikes have...

i was watching something about a kawasaki that makes 15hp at the top end more with this raim air than a conventional air intake... except thats at 200mph!!! at 90mph it's going to make bugger all difference unless you manage to get a titanic sized funnel to channel the air in!

wasnt it you that already had success with no headlight and battery at heathcote? why not just take that to the next level... drop the exhaust and start pulling off exterior pannels or something... weight reduction!

reminds me of what every VN comodore drag racer does.
just have a read of any issue of street commodores, they all do it.

The best ive seen was on a GEN3 commodore, a 4" pipe straight over the radiator, leading to a mouth the size of the grill, feeding directly into the throttle body.

at the drags i ran without the sheild above the radiator and without the intake snorkel both were 0.1sec slower than stock set up

interstingly my custom air filter :badgrin: was 0.2 sec quicker than stock paper filtered uselesness

I was actually thinking about a CAI earlier this week and I wondered if a steel intake pipe could be mocked up. Because if you could get an intake that conducts cold you could quite easily hook up a peltier cooler to it and drag the intake piping down to like -30C. I'd imagine this would be fairly useful :confused: ? Apparently there is a material coming out sometime soon that if you pass a current through it, it chills on one side, and heats on the other.

i remember seeing AAAGES ago, someone in the USA that had a diamante, removed one of the round lights out of the parabolics, and turned that into a trumpet style intake. looked pretty awesome!

I was actually thinking about a CAI earlier this week and I wondered if a steel intake pipe could be mocked up. Because if you could get an intake that conducts cold you could quite easily hook up a peltier cooler to it and drag the intake piping down to like -30C. I'd imagine this would be fairly useful :confused: ? Apparently there is a material coming out sometime soon that if you pass a current through it, it chills on one side, and heats on the other.


ahh sounds good :)

stuff cold air intake....

bring on refridgerated air intakes:badgrin:

why not work out a way to use the air con system to cool the intake temps to amazingly cool temps using the freyon lol

why not work out a way to use the air con system to cool the intake temps to amazingly cool temps using the freyon lol

Mine doesnt work!!!! :sook: :rofleek: :sook:

why not work out a way to use the air con system to cool the intake temps to amazingly cool temps using the freyon lol

cause if you have the aircon running its gunna sap power from your engine!

i like the peltier idea!

i remember seeing AAAGES ago, someone in the USA that had a diamante, removed one of the round lights out of the parabolics, and turned that into a trumpet style intake. looked pretty awesome!

Pff, try and get me to drill out my parras, good luck!
I would however get the biggest piping you can get with a massive bell mouth on it. Will look stupid as but hopefully be of some avail

Actually, as a second problem I can see, wouldn't the extra drag created by friction in the "****ING HUGE ASS BELL" (tm) cause an increase in drag times?

In answer to the original question/proposal, whilst any CAI is worth doing don't go expecting serious gains even out of this radical proposal you have.

My son works as an aerodynamicist at Red Bull F1 and he says that the Renault guys reckon that whilst ramair CAI gives additional hp, it is ony truly effective once you PASS 200kmh. So the odds of your proposed setup having any meaningful effect on a basically road Magna are...well...minimal. And bear in mind that they also say that the CAI gains in hp are also a function of rpm ALONG WITH road speed and that their engines rev to 19,000rpm, idle at 5,750 and don't make meaningful hp unto 12,00rpm!!!!

I was actually thinking about a CAI earlier this week and I wondered if a steel intake pipe could be mocked up. Because if you could get an intake that conducts cold you could quite easily hook up a peltier cooler to it and drag the intake piping down to like -30C. I'd imagine this would be fairly useful :confused: ? Apparently there is a material coming out sometime soon that if you pass a current through it, it chills on one side, and heats on the other.


The problem is they suck power, and they will die from the excess heat they are creating.

The nest idea would be to get a bottle of NO2, then use the refrigerating effect of expanding gases to cool the intake pipe before the NO2 is injected, much like how a ram jet uses the hydrogen gas to cool it self before it combusts the gas.

mmm so I'm not gonna get the gains I'm hoping for? :\

I need something to help me make sure I beat andrewd's S/C AWD on the track without spending over $100 :P

Although I still have 2 things on my side :)

FWD and Manual transmission :D

oh and my crazy ability to reduce weight lol (as some of you have seen at my last appearance to heathcote :D)

you will easily beat me...

the way my car is going i'll either be there on my 250moto or if the magna does make it, the trans will be sitting on the line after i launch it...

i may have cooked the convertor... or i will have definatley done it at the meet or before it...

the 2800rpm starts arent helping things

ohh and if my car dont go good after the new computer...

hmm there is going to be a cheap sprintex kit with very little use for sale

oh and my crazy ability to reduce weight lol (as some of you have seen at my last appearance to heathcote :D)

That was pretty crazy.

:D Do it!

im thinking we get the magna pit crew happening and bring some tools alond and see how fast we can get his car going... strip the whole interior/boot duck tape all the joins etc... lol

Sit the intake pipe in a bath of dry ice.. Cheap and it works.

Or maybe have some sort of icebox that sits on the plenum/last of the intake to cool it where it really needs it.

Screw it, make a skin, so you can fill it with glycol or something and freeze that and just whip it out of the esky and onto the car before while your waiting for the tree to light up...