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another silly question. but i need to sort this out :x

ive done a search and read through all the reply's but im still not confident on the info i need.

ok im buying the 19x9" alloys.

when i order them, do i tell em the offset is 114.3x5
is that what they need to know?? i rather tell them the info then just saying i need them to fit a magna as they can get all kinds of dodgy info :S

is by telling them i need a 114.3x5 does that sort out all my fitment problems??

also gami help'd bac a while ago (in the search i found), ill need 235/35XR19 rubber?? will that fit on the 9" rim??

Cheers, Ben.

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another silly question. but i need to sort this out :x

ive done a search and read through all the reply's but im still not confident on the info i need.

ok im buying the 19x9" alloys.

when i order them, do i tell em the offset is 114.3x5
is that what they need to know?? i rather tell them the info then just saying i need them to fit a magna as they can get all kinds of dodgy info :S

114.3x5 is not the offset. 114.3 mm is the PCD (Pitch Circle Diameter). Its
the diameter of a circle that links up the nuts (for a four nut wheel, its the
distance from the center of one nut hole to the centere of the diagnally
opposite nut hole). 5 means its a five nut wheel.

offset is the distance from the mounting plate to the centre of the wheel
If the mouting plate is further towards the outside of the wheel then its
positive offset and vice versa.
Have a look at http://www.tyres-online.co.uk/techinfo/alloy.asp

is by telling them i need a 114.3x5 does that sort out all my fitment problems??

also gami help'd bac a while ago (in the search i found), ill need 235/35XR19 rubber?? will that fit on the 9" rim??

Go to an online tyre place and it should indicate in the table what size tyres
fit what wheel width. [ur]http://www.toyo.com/tires/index_frame.html[/url]
and look at the specs it gives a rim width range in min - perfecet - max.
235 35 19 fits 8 to 9.5 " wheels but only has a load rating of 91 which is
too low for 3rd gen Magnas. Even 245 35 19 only gives a load ratign of 93
still not 94 or 95. You could go 255 35 19 to get 96 load rating but that
would be too wide.
Cheers, Ben.[/url]

is running a load rating of 91 too dangerous??

does this increase the risk of blowouts etc etc???

i think the load rating depends on the tyre brand aswell doesn't it? might have to ask grecy if he's still floating around these forums, i'm sure he had problems with load ratings when buying his 17's because the TE-TF has a different rating to the TH-TJ's, so the tyres i have on mine, would void insurance.

Different branded tyres of same size only have slight differences in load
rating. Have a look around at the online sites, bridgestone, dunlop, etc etc.

As I mentioned in another thread, it is illegal to have a tyre rating that is
not suitable for the car. In the event of an accident, even if its not your
falt, the insurance companies won't pay you a cent.
http://www.blackcircles.com/tyres/sidewall explains the load
ratings.

yeah, it just seemed that you were saying that the only way to increase the load rating is by getting a wider tyre, but surely there is a 235/35/19 that has a suitable load rating for the magnas...

where is Gami? what tyres is he running with?

yeah, it just seemed that you were saying that the only way to increase the load rating is by getting a wider tyre, but surely there is a 235/35/19 that has a suitable load rating for the magnas...

where is Gami? what tyres is he running with?

I haven't found a 235/35/19 that has a load rating of 94. They were only
up to 92 which is not enough for a 3rd gen magna.

i spent half of today at a tyre store, if u use a tyre that has a load rating that is less than what is needed for a 3rd generation magna (i think its 94) it actually voids your insurance, so if u crash insurance will not cover u

I'm picking up a set of 225/50/R16 with a load rating of 95 tomorrow $280- the tyre store gave me $240 credit for my old tyres :D

What are they?

i spent half of today at a tyre store, if u use a tyre that has a load rating that is less than what is needed for a 3rd generation magna (i think its 94) it actually voids your insurance, so if u crash insurance will not cover u

I'm picking up a set of 225/50/R16 with a load rating of 95 tomorrow $280- the tyre store gave me $240 credit for my old tyres :D
Yes. I'd like to know what brand of tyres gives a 95 load rating for 225/50
R16. You sure its not 55 profile? Mine are 225/50 R16 and are 92 load
rated tyres which is ok for a 2nd gen.

bah!! back onto OFFSET!!!

what do i need, how do i find out for a 9" wide rim!!!

stuff the insturance, as i dont have any for booya ATM so it dont matter :oops:

Don't know if it actually varies depending on wheel width, (I doubt it), but I've heard that the offset is +34. I'm emailed ROH to conform this but that's what I've heard.

Don't know if it actually varies depending on wheel width, (I doubt it), but I've heard that the offset is +34. I'm emailed ROH to conform this but that's what I've heard.

yay!! i got an answer!!

lol.
Cheers Cookie!

No worries, mate. That's if it's right. I'm still checking for you!


I've just found two more pages with an offset mentioned. One said 45 and one said 40. Shall keep you informed. You could try emailing one of the larger wheel chains.

bah!! back onto OFFSET!!!

what do i need, how do i find out for a 9" wide rim!!!

stuff the insturance, as i dont have any for booya ATM so it dont matter :oops:

One thing you got to remember is that the wheel/tyre cannot protrude the
wheel arch. That is illegal. So if you have high positive offset to keep the
wheel inside the arch then too much of it is on the inside and will hit the
wheel well and struts, springs etc. I'd make sure the wheels fit the car
before doing anything cos as soon as you put the tyres on the wheel,
you've got to buy it.

im pretty sure the 9" rim should fit, as the 17x9's ive got fit without drama!
the only thing being a bigger wheel, if it will cause problems up higher in the wheel arch!

ill have to have a good proper look when i get the chance!!

cheers for all your advice!!

benb

I got this from ROH this morning. I've asked for clarification for TE-TL but think it would be the same but the AWD could possibly be different.

[quote:2bc519667c]Your vehicle has a factory offset of 46 positive. We would have aftermarket styles in our range with a 40 positive offset which is quite ok for Magna. If any more help is required , don't hesitate to contact us again[/quote:2bc519667c]

Why do you want 9' wide? Is it because the 19's are only 9' wide?

yer the 19" wheel i want only comes in a 9" wide profile!! :D

it should stick like glue!! :badgrin: :badgrin:

cos i know my 9" wide 17's is like wo!!! they handle soo well!!

Fair enough.

[quote:5140a1d30b]The offset doesn't change across those models and anything
40 - 46 will be fine. Any factory / original equipment wheel supplied to Mitsubishi are only available through their spare parts dealerships. Some Tyre dealers can get o/e wheels. Wheelking in Moorabbin ( 9555 6000 ) is worth a call.[/quote:5140a1d30b]

Just got this. I also asked about ROH making the VR-X rim. He didn't confirm but I also asked about if they could be purchased from them and not Mitsubishi.

Booya,

I am not trying to be a killjoy here, aside from the question of insurance which doesnt concern you anyway. Have you considered what effect 19 inch wheels will have fom an engineering/safety point of view. 19 inch wheels might be fine for Porches or Ferraris but are a questionable proposition on a Magna. If you are in NSW you would certainly be defected by the cops. 19 inch wheels would place added loading on the suspension components and wheel bearings, as their is less loading taken by the sidewall and this increased loading is transferred to the wheel bearings and suspension. If you ever get the chance take a look at the suspension/bearings of a genuine performance car and you will see what I mean. Finally I think that huge wheels look rather silly when you can see the tiny standard brake assembly which doesnt come close to filling up all that space behind the wheel. Again look at how a set of Porsche brake rotors fill up the space behind the wheel. Not only looks good but highly effective. Anyway thats my 2 cents worth.

Nigel

no problems Nigel..

a)Have you considered what effect 19 inch wheels will have fom an engineering/safety point of view. 19 inch wheels might be fine for Porches or Ferraris but are a questionable proposition on a Magna

yes, and ill explain my "position" later in this reply

b)19 inch wheels would place added loading on the suspension components and wheel bearings, as their is less loading taken by the sidewall and this increased loading is transferred to the wheel bearings and suspension

again, ill explain in a sec

c) Finally I think that huge wheels look rather silly when you can see the tiny standard brake assembly which doesnt come close to filling up all that space behind the wheel.

i agree.. a six pot caliper and 350mm rotor is being developed as we speak by street torque. they are modifying a AU six pot caliper and rotor from AP racing to adapt to the magna. the Falcon lucky share the same stud patters, offsets and PCD as the magna, making this a half viable option. when upgrading the wheel, of course measures will be inplace to upgrade the full suspention. lucky enough its in the hands of my sponsors, which undertaking the sponsorship role, is at their expense.

also having said that, its not a viable option for me to be "Rolling" on 19's on every day that ends with "y" as the rubber is just priced wayyy above what i could afford, if i had to replace it the same frequencey as my 17s.

the 19's will be on for show mainly, and one reasion im getting these in what seems to be 'rushed' is because the intention of attending the 4,6 and rotory event in adelaide, where street torque will be sending the car down/dalls will most likely make a appearance so the SA guys can meet dallas etc etc.

i hope that kinda cleared it up =)

booya,

Sounds like you have it all under control. Your right in that 19 inch tyres would be pretty expensive to replace on a regular basis. Ill be interested in seeing pics of the modified brakes when your done.
Good luck
Nigel